HoganStand GAA Football and Hurling

National Forum

Club Hurling

(Oldest Posts First) - Go To The Latest Post

You need to Login to Post

Replying To Viking66: "Ballygunnar are the best club team for the last good few years Canuck. My post wasn't running them down, it was pointing out how hard it is to win club AIs even when you are the favourites for a number of years in a row!" Yes they are and would probably have one more only for off days but any day you are beat by it is because the opposition were better. A testament to their strength is Billy O' Keeffe was club hurler of the year and did not make the team the next year or since. Playing Intermediate. Ruddle is only a regular this year after winning an All Ireland for them. Patrick Fitzgerald the same though playing for Waterford. Young Hartley got a game because Mahoney was out. You wait your turn and seemly no complaints. Other young prospects like Cuddihy and a few minor like Spain waiting their turn. Aaron O'Neill another young player stepped in seamlessly to their full back line this year. An intermediate team that would win Waterford and be a force in Munster. Even if the old guard retired and Coughlan and Shane did they would still be a force. They will get beaten on an off day in Waterford and De La Salle nearly did. Personally I think they have not given as much to Waterford as you would expect. When Mount Sion were on top they had 12 but then again they would put their granny on the Waterford team because they picked it. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3218 - 29/11/2025 14:46:20 2646433 Link
Replying To Canuck: "If they win on Sunday will be the most winning club of all time in Munster. That is an achievement in a province that have the hurling counties of Tipp,Cork, Limerick. Ballyhale still crying in their cereal since that win. They were with in two points when Ruddle put the ball in the net. He did score right? Or should he have put it wide to satisfy their detractors ? We have posters of the opinion they are not as strong anymore. What do you think ? The biggest challenge they had in Waterford and Munster this year so far was in their own training ground against their second team. I don't know what they will win or not as not a supporter of them but do recognize their talent. A lot of nonsense and a crutch about their pick. Family and cousins the back bone. I think they should break up the Mahonys and only allow 2 of the 4 brothers and no cousins play for Ballygunner." They (Ballygunner) are an amazing club. Their consistency is remarkable. Unreal how they just keep on winning. SouthGalway (Galway) - Posts: 114 - 29/11/2025 15:35:14 2646435 Link
Replying To SouthGalway: "They (Ballygunner) are an amazing club. Their consistency is remarkable. Unreal how they just keep on winning." In munster yes but still like viking is saying just shows you how hard it is to win an all ireland club title only one in all those years . Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 422 - 29/11/2025 15:52:16 2646439 Link
ballygunner are a fine team and club but for all there hurling and waterford county titles one all ireland is a poor return for a club that has been knocking around this 15 years or more. there not a patch on the ballyhale teams and Birr sides or portumna teams that won club all irelands. oneshot (Tyrone) - Posts: 32 - 29/11/2025 20:48:16 2646475 Link
Comprehensive win for Slaughtneil in Ulster final. Loughrea await in the AI semi final. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 9301 - 29/11/2025 20:53:30 2646477 Link
Replying To oneshot: "ballygunner are a fine team and club but for all there hurling and waterford county titles one all ireland is a poor return for a club that has been knocking around this 15 years or more. there not a patch on the ballyhale teams and Birr sides or portumna teams that won club all irelands." Ya great teams. Would any of these come out of Munster as often if playing there and feature in 9 or 10 finals in the same number of years. We'll never know. I never use the term greatest but one of the greats. However to say they are not a patch on them is a strange opinion that you are entitled to. I know more about Ballygunner than you. I played and walloped them at junior when they played behind the school. They do have a bigger pick now but strongly a family club built by strong hands. Ballyhale are a team formed from 3 clubs that are among the greats for sure. I lived close there for 15 years. Jealousy is a terrible thing. Dublin footballers had it. Limerick had it and in fact Kilkenny had it when on top. No different for Ballygunner. They are an excellent club with great teams playing their own style from when they could walk and anyone who thinks they are going away is living in cuckoo land. Hoping for a great game tomorrow and if the Clare boys win hats off to them. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3218 - 29/11/2025 22:00:17 2646483 Link
Replying To Canuck: "If they win on Sunday will be the most winning club of all time in Munster. That is an achievement in a province that have the hurling counties of Tipp,Cork, Limerick. Ballyhale still crying in their cereal since that win. They were with in two points when Ruddle put the ball in the net. He did score right? Or should he have put it wide to satisfy their detractors ? We have posters of the opinion they are not as strong anymore. What do you think ? The biggest challenge they had in Waterford and Munster this year so far was in their own training ground against their second team. I don't know what they will win or not as not a supporter of them but do recognize their talent. A lot of nonsense and a crutch about their pick. Family and cousins the back bone. I think they should break up the Mahonys and only allow 2 of the 4 brothers and no cousins play for Ballygunner." Senior club hurling is weak in Munster. In the last 20 years the Senior All Ireland Club has been won 10 x Leinster clubs 7 x Galway Clubs 2 x Munster clubs 1 x Ulster clubs Ballyhale far superior to Ballygunnar when it comes to winning the big one and were caught out by a one in a million goal by Herry Ruddle. Ballyhale have knocked Ballygunnar out in two semi finals. I would put St Thomas ahead of Ballyhale aswel. Some poster above tried to say Ballygunnar have been the best club around this last good few years which is laughable , based on what exactly? Ballyhale have won the All Ireland club 2019, 2020 and 2023 and beaten finalists in 2022. No club even comes close to Ballyhale Shamrocks. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 1010 - 29/11/2025 22:31:21 2646485 Link
Replying To Past hurler: "Senior club hurling is weak in Munster. In the last 20 years the Senior All Ireland Club has been won 10 x Leinster clubs 7 x Galway Clubs 2 x Munster clubs 1 x Ulster clubs Ballyhale far superior to Ballygunnar when it comes to winning the big one and were caught out by a one in a million goal by Herry Ruddle. Ballyhale have knocked Ballygunnar out in two semi finals. I would put St Thomas ahead of Ballyhale aswel. Some poster above tried to say Ballygunnar have been the best club around this last good few years which is laughable , based on what exactly? Ballyhale have won the All Ireland club 2019, 2020 and 2023 and beaten finalists in 2022. No club even comes close to Ballyhale Shamrocks." Supposed to say I would put St Thomas ahead of Ballygunnar, not Ballyhale. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 1010 - 30/11/2025 00:41:45 2646491 Link
Replying To Canuck: "Ya great teams. Would any of these come out of Munster as often if playing there and feature in 9 or 10 finals in the same number of years. We'll never know. I never use the term greatest but one of the greats. However to say they are not a patch on them is a strange opinion that you are entitled to. I know more about Ballygunner than you. I played and walloped them at junior when they played behind the school. They do have a bigger pick now but strongly a family club built by strong hands. Ballyhale are a team formed from 3 clubs that are among the greats for sure. I lived close there for 15 years. Jealousy is a terrible thing. Dublin footballers had it. Limerick had it and in fact Kilkenny had it when on top. No different for Ballygunner. They are an excellent club with great teams playing their own style from when they could walk and anyone who thinks they are going away is living in cuckoo land. Hoping for a great game tomorrow and if the Clare boys win hats off to them." the great Birr sides of the 90s and early 2000s would walk out of munster ballyhale also add in the sarsfields and Athenry and portumna from galway all them clubs won back to back club all irelands . add in all them players from them clubs backbone there county teams to win the mccarthy cup also. i remember being at the 1998 club all ireland when birr won the final again sarsfields six months later 8 of them were involved in winning the county all ireland win over kilkenny which i was also at. oneshot (Tyrone) - Posts: 32 - 30/11/2025 12:12:00 2646502 Link
Replying To Canuck: "Ya great teams. Would any of these come out of Munster as often if playing there and feature in 9 or 10 finals in the same number of years. We'll never know. I never use the term greatest but one of the greats. However to say they are not a patch on them is a strange opinion that you are entitled to. I know more about Ballygunner than you. I played and walloped them at junior when they played behind the school. They do have a bigger pick now but strongly a family club built by strong hands. Ballyhale are a team formed from 3 clubs that are among the greats for sure. I lived close there for 15 years. Jealousy is a terrible thing. Dublin footballers had it. Limerick had it and in fact Kilkenny had it when on top. No different for Ballygunner. They are an excellent club with great teams playing their own style from when they could walk and anyone who thinks they are going away is living in cuckoo land. Hoping for a great game tomorrow and if the Clare boys win hats off to them." What 3 clubs?Ballyhale has a very small population mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 543 - 30/11/2025 15:25:14 2646515 Link
Replying To oneshot: "the great Birr sides of the 90s and early 2000s would walk out of munster ballyhale also add in the sarsfields and Athenry and portumna from galway all them clubs won back to back club all irelands . add in all them players from them clubs backbone there county teams to win the mccarthy cup also. i remember being at the 1998 club all ireland when birr won the final again sarsfields six months later 8 of them were involved in winning the county all ireland win over kilkenny which i was also at." Agreed. Leinster senior club hurling and Galway club hurling has always been far superior to Munster senior club hurling. The stats don't lie. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 1010 - 30/11/2025 15:30:35 2646516 Link
Replying To mooncat: "What 3 clubs?Ballyhale has a very small population" Ballyhale, Knocktopher and there was a team in Knockmoylan Lukeswell area. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3218 - 30/11/2025 15:37:21 2646517 Link
Replying To Past hurler: "Agreed. Leinster senior club hurling and Galway club hurling has always been far superior to Munster senior club hurling. The stats don't lie." The record of Leinster teams is great and Ballyhale are an incredible club and team and the others as well. Ulster teams and Galway have a good record. I am not in anyway trying to demean the achievements. However I wonder what the stats would be if those teams had to play a first round against the winners of Tipp, Cork, Limerick,Clare and Waterford. We won't ever know they were winners on merit. Like Ballygunner. Russells's goal and all. I will tell you their achievement of winning the most tittles deserves credit. I am lost to know why many on here love to pull them down. Like referring to a million to 1 goal and they are yesterday's team. Waterford hate ? Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Mine is some of those would not be close to this Ballygunner team when it comes to the skills of the game and that is 60 plus years viewing. I have a soft spot for all club teams they are the backbone and hope Eire won't be disheartened after today and come back stronger. When you look at hurling strong holds the number of All-Irelands that Kilkenny have won is also a fabulous achievement. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3218 - 30/11/2025 18:05:37 2646536 Link
Replying To Canuck: "The record of Leinster teams is great and Ballyhale are an incredible club and team and the others as well. Ulster teams and Galway have a good record. I am not in anyway trying to demean the achievements. However I wonder what the stats would be if those teams had to play a first round against the winners of Tipp, Cork, Limerick,Clare and Waterford. We won't ever know they were winners on merit. Like Ballygunner. Russells's goal and all. I will tell you their achievement of winning the most tittles deserves credit. I am lost to know why many on here love to pull them down. Like referring to a million to 1 goal and they are yesterday's team. Waterford hate ? Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Mine is some of those would not be close to this Ballygunner team when it comes to the skills of the game and that is 60 plus years viewing. I have a soft spot for all club teams they are the backbone and hope Eire won't be disheartened after today and come back stronger. When you look at hurling strong holds the number of All-Irelands that Kilkenny have won is also a fabulous achievement." I d say its more to do with the fact waterford aren't seen in the same hurling Elite as some of the other forementioned counties . Where ye are a strong hurling county ye are not in the elite circle Similar to ourselves in Wexford . . Ballygunner in full flow are as good a club team as there has been . But they prob need to win another all Ireland or 2 . To be ranked as one of the all time greats . Time and pool of talent aee on their side as long as the ambition,drive abd consistentcy are there to match . Greater achievement to win club than county all ireland in some ways Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 500 - 30/11/2025 19:24:51 2646543 Link
Replying To Formertownie: "I d say its more to do with the fact waterford aren't seen in the same hurling Elite as some of the other forementioned counties . Where ye are a strong hurling county ye are not in the elite circle Similar to ourselves in Wexford . . Ballygunner in full flow are as good a club team as there has been . But they prob need to win another all Ireland or 2 . To be ranked as one of the all time greats . Time and pool of talent aee on their side as long as the ambition,drive abd consistentcy are there to match . Greater achievement to win club than county all ireland in some ways" Hopefully it is St. Martens in the next round . Wexford not maybe as much of a minnow as others but could do with a shot in the arm that would be welcome. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3218 - 30/11/2025 19:58:34 2646546 Link
Ballygunner won that playing well within themselves. Backed themselves too to keep their shape when Éire Óg had brief purple patch. Shows great confidence to be playing short ball in monsoon! BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3853 - 30/11/2025 20:17:41 2646548 Link
O Donnell was the only one that brought the fight to ballygunnar from midfield up.. when everyone around him was s mm being beaten up a stick.he is a warrior. Pepper1 (Galway) - Posts: 31 - 30/11/2025 20:50:42 2646558 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "Ballygunner won that playing well within themselves. Backed themselves too to keep their shape when Éire Óg had brief purple patch. Shows great confidence to be playing short ball in monsoon!" short ball as pat spilliane would say puke hurling ballygunner do what they have to do to win matches fair enough but there brand of hurling is killing hurling they will never wear out or break a hurl hand passing around in circles flicking it to one another besides each other its like football. also the one club winning the county title every year does nothing for the county team as waterford have slipped way back in the pack the last few years . oneshot (Tyrone) - Posts: 32 - 30/11/2025 20:51:56 2646559 Link
Replying To Canuck: "Ballyhale, Knocktopher and there was a team in Knockmoylan Lukeswell area." That's going back over 50 years ago. Ballyhale have tiny numbers underage compared to the big City clubs in any county including their own. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17680 - 30/11/2025 21:39:08 2646567 Link
Replying To Canuck: "Ballyhale, Knocktopher and there was a team in Knockmoylan Lukeswell area." Knockmoylan were defunct when the Shamrocks were formed mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 543 - 30/11/2025 22:09:14 2646571 Link