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Replying To Magpie2: "The only way to get noticed and attract attention is by achieving success. The media at national level will inevitably give much more coverage to winning teams. They want banner headlines of outstanding performances by counties or clubs that have won all irelands and provided us with hugely talented players.
Let's be honest, wexford has been in the doldrums for years so why would the press or TV want to be interested?. We as a county haven't given them much to report on of late in terms of success.
The only way to change all that is to win something. Be it a Leinster title or if you're really optimistic an all ireland. Then I guarantee you the media will swarm all over us and there will be no end to the banner headlines all directed at our county.
Failure to achieve the above will only mean tiny paragraphs at the bottom of page 78.
That I'm afraid is the reality." Good post. I can't stand the whole we were written off, we don't get enough credit, the critics and all that nonsense. Win stuff and you'll get credit, don't and you won't. Ignore outside noise. I remember liam dunne complaining about being ranked 10th and if you went through the list it was where we were. I know it's probably siege mentality but still....
St Martins have got loads of credit, keep winning and they'll get more.
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Hearing rumours from Gorey that Tara Rocks are considering going alone again, not happy with current set up. Not sure how true it is, just a rumour. how would the grading even work at this stage?. Would be a bit of a headache id imagine for county board if it happens
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Adrian Mullen out of Ballyhale's campaign now apparently with a broken thumb - Big loss for them.
MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 262 - 11/11/2025 14:06:17
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Replying To preddan: "St martins have been in five or six Leinster semis now and no win,is this finally the year to make a final" We have had 4 clubs make finals it would be great if Martins could be the 5th this year.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17472 - 11/11/2025 14:38:54
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I know going on a run in the club championship is obviously a big thing for the Martin's but it's a big thing for Wexford hurling too
Our club championship, rightly or wrongly, has taken a lot of flak in recent years from both outside the county and inside. Very few people respect our club championship, very few people respect our current inter-county team, and very few people respect the players we have coming through at county level
We need someone to break through, think if the Martin's were to go very well at club level, it could filter through to county level. Have to remember that when Limerick won the AI in 2018, they had won two U21 AIs but Na Piarsaigh had also won the Club AI in 2016 and were beaten in a replay in 2018 by a terrific Cuala side
Similarly, you had Na Fianna winning the Club AI earlier this year, I'm sure that gave a big boost to people in Dublin that they were maybe capable of more, you see it with Naas too, they'll see themselves competing against good club sides in Leinster and they'll start thinking if they can handle them at club level, they'll start believing they can handle them at inter-county level
And while the Martin's are very good, it's not as if Rathmire are a million miles behind them
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Replying To alwaysasub: "Hearing rumours from Gorey that Tara Rocks are considering going alone again, not happy with current set up. Not sure how true it is, just a rumour. how would the grading even work at this stage?. Would be a bit of a headache id imagine for county board if it happens" More than likely a consequence of the current club championship format. Kilanerin lads will always prioritise football so the hurling side of the amalgamation will lose out in terms of priority. Would be surprised if the Rocks have enough numbers without Kilanerin at the same time.
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Replying To Timbertony: "More than likely a consequence of the current club championship format. Kilanerin lads will always prioritise football so the hurling side of the amalgamation will lose out in terms of priority. Would be surprised if the Rocks have enough numbers without Kilanerin at the same time." Without the Kilanerin lads they will suffer a relegation or 2.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17472 - 11/11/2025 17:41:29
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "I know going on a run in the club championship is obviously a big thing for the Martin's but it's a big thing for Wexford hurling too
Our club championship, rightly or wrongly, has taken a lot of flak in recent years from both outside the county and inside. Very few people respect our club championship, very few people respect our current inter-county team, and very few people respect the players we have coming through at county level
We need someone to break through, think if the Martin's were to go very well at club level, it could filter through to county level. Have to remember that when Limerick won the AI in 2018, they had won two U21 AIs but Na Piarsaigh had also won the Club AI in 2016 and were beaten in a replay in 2018 by a terrific Cuala side
Similarly, you had Na Fianna winning the Club AI earlier this year, I'm sure that gave a big boost to people in Dublin that they were maybe capable of more, you see it with Naas too, they'll see themselves competing against good club sides in Leinster and they'll start thinking if they can handle them at club level, they'll start believing they can handle them at inter-county level
And while the Martin's are very good, it's not as if Rathmire are a million miles behind them" Not sure the 2 are linked. That win by NaP is the only win by a Limerick club. Waterford clubs have only won one AI either. Antrim clubs have won 2, the same number as Clare clubs. Offaly clubs have won 4. Tipp clubs have only won 3, same as Dublin.
Kilkenny and Galway clubs have dominated it, along with Cork city clubs in the early days.
Id be hoping St Martins can win it for themselves, not for Wexford hurling in general or me as a Wexford supporter. One huge positive if they do is the positive impact on the panel when the lads come back in. Another would be at an individual level it would be massive for David and Darren Codd and Jacko, in terms of their confidence. And maybe even more so than other sports confidence is hugely important in hurling.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17472 - 11/11/2025 17:54:11
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Replying To Viking66: "Not sure the 2 are linked. That win by NaP is the only win by a Limerick club. Waterford clubs have only won one AI either. Antrim clubs have won 2, the same number as Clare clubs. Offaly clubs have won 4. Tipp clubs have only won 3, same as Dublin.
Kilkenny and Galway clubs have dominated it, along with Cork city clubs in the early days.
Id be hoping St Martins can win it for themselves, not for Wexford hurling in general or me as a Wexford supporter. One huge positive if they do is the positive impact on the panel when the lads come back in. Another would be at an individual level it would be massive for David and Darren Codd and Jacko, in terms of their confidence. And maybe even more so than other sports confidence is hugely important in hurling." Do you not think though that it would give Wexford hurling a jolt in the arm? There's just so much negativity about, both inside and outside the county, we might have gone close in the 2022 and 2023 Leinster U20 finals but we just missed out, we need something as a county
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 697 - 11/11/2025 19:21:49
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Was just thinking that you'd have to have some amount of respect for Daithí Waters
Must be getting close to 40 now, played inter-county football for an awful long time (And did a year of inter-county hurling too), has won Senior club titles both in hurling and football, owes his club nothing, has to face off massive internal competition to even start and yet there he is playing a full 60 minutes for the Martin's against the reigning All-Ireland champions a week after being the driving force for their footballers
He could have just retired and no-one would've begrudged him and yet he's still turning up week in, week out, the proverbial old dog for the hard road
I suppose it's exactly what you want from the perspective of a club, you want lads to have to earn their starting spots rather than it being handed to them, a case of "You're getting this jersey over my dead body", sets a great example from a cultural perspective
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 697 - 11/11/2025 19:30:19
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Replying To Timbertony: "More than likely a consequence of the current club championship format. Kilanerin lads will always prioritise football so the hurling side of the amalgamation will lose out in terms of priority. Would be surprised if the Rocks have enough numbers without Kilanerin at the same time." I'd actually be amazed if Tara Rocks were able to field by themselves. Can't find the list of this year's transfers right now, but from memory, there were only about 14 or 15 who transferred to Kilanerin for football purposes. Even if they had another three or four who play hurling only, it'd be hard to fulfil a whole year of fixtures with a squad of less than 20.
A big thing too would be where do they go in the championship? It's going to be a big thing anyway when or if the current situation does come to an end.
At the time the arrangement first came in, Ballyfad were in Intermediate A, and Tara Rocks were in Junior A. Would stand to reason then that if the arrangement ends, the higher place in the championship goes back to Ballyfad. But Tara Rocks don't see things that way. They'd say "we" are intermediate right now and that's where "we" are entitled to stay.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3212 - 11/11/2025 19:57:44
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Replying To Pikeman96: "I'd actually be amazed if Tara Rocks were able to field by themselves. Can't find the list of this year's transfers right now, but from memory, there were only about 14 or 15 who transferred to Kilanerin for football purposes. Even if they had another three or four who play hurling only, it'd be hard to fulfil a whole year of fixtures with a squad of less than 20.
A big thing too would be where do they go in the championship? It's going to be a big thing anyway when or if the current situation does come to an end.
At the time the arrangement first came in, Ballyfad were in Intermediate A, and Tara Rocks were in Junior A. Would stand to reason then that if the arrangement ends, the higher place in the championship goes back to Ballyfad. But Tara Rocks don't see things that way. They'd say "we" are intermediate right now and that's where "we" are entitled to stay." I don't think Tara rocks would think that. If they have small numbers, why would they go back intermediate to be hammered. I'd say they would more than likely be looking to go back to junior a. Ballyfad made up most of the hurling team so they would probably look to stay intermediate.
alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 11/11/2025 20:26:05
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Do you not think though that it would give Wexford hurling a jolt in the arm? There's just so much negativity about, both inside and outside the county, we might have gone close in the 2022 and 2023 Leinster U20 finals but we just missed out, we need something as a county" Of course it would be a positive thing. Winning always is in sport.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17472 - 11/11/2025 20:36:20
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Replying To Pikeman96: "I'd actually be amazed if Tara Rocks were able to field by themselves. Can't find the list of this year's transfers right now, but from memory, there were only about 14 or 15 who transferred to Kilanerin for football purposes. Even if they had another three or four who play hurling only, it'd be hard to fulfil a whole year of fixtures with a squad of less than 20.
A big thing too would be where do they go in the championship? It's going to be a big thing anyway when or if the current situation does come to an end.
At the time the arrangement first came in, Ballyfad were in Intermediate A, and Tara Rocks were in Junior A. Would stand to reason then that if the arrangement ends, the higher place in the championship goes back to Ballyfad. But Tara Rocks don't see things that way. They'd say "we" are intermediate right now and that's where "we" are entitled to stay." They'd only last a season at Intermediate without the Kilanerin lads.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17472 - 11/11/2025 20:37:47
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Replying To Viking66: "They'd only last a season at Intermediate without the Kilanerin lads." Absolutely. And they'd only last one season after that at Intermediate A. And only one season after that at Junior. And then they'd struggle in Junior A. If they managed to field at all.
Am being realistic, not cynical, as I've actually found the transfers list for this year. And am comparing it to the programme for Round 5 hurling, and their Intermediate and Junior A teams there.
Tara Rocks had 13 players transferred to Kilanerin for football. Again, they might have a couple more who play hurling only, but of that 13:
- Two were named to start Intermediate.
- One was a sub for Intermediate but not named for Junior A. Maybe he'd got a run at Intermediate already.
- One was named as a sub for Intermediate and a starter for Junior A.
- Two more were named to start for Junior A.
- Two more were named as subs for Junior A.
- Four of them weren't named in either hurling squad at all. And that's despite the Junior A squad having 29 players named altogether.
So at best, that's only nine who played championship hurling at all this year, and two of that nine were named at numbers 25 and 26 on a Junior A panel, so they might not have got a run at all, and either way, they'd be highly unlikely to help the club survive at a higher grade. If the club managed to field at all. And I genuinely don't think they would be able to.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3212 - 11/11/2025 23:28:04
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Replying To Pikeman96: "Absolutely. And they'd only last one season after that at Intermediate A. And only one season after that at Junior. And then they'd struggle in Junior A. If they managed to field at all.
Am being realistic, not cynical, as I've actually found the transfers list for this year. And am comparing it to the programme for Round 5 hurling, and their Intermediate and Junior A teams there.
Tara Rocks had 13 players transferred to Kilanerin for football. Again, they might have a couple more who play hurling only, but of that 13:
- Two were named to start Intermediate.
- One was a sub for Intermediate but not named for Junior A. Maybe he'd got a run at Intermediate already.
- One was named as a sub for Intermediate and a starter for Junior A.
- Two more were named to start for Junior A.
- Two more were named as subs for Junior A.
- Four of them weren't named in either hurling squad at all. And that's despite the Junior A squad having 29 players named altogether.
So at best, that's only nine who played championship hurling at all this year, and two of that nine were named at numbers 25 and 26 on a Junior A panel, so they might not have got a run at all, and either way, they'd be highly unlikely to help the club survive at a higher grade. If the club managed to field at all. And I genuinely don't think they would be able to." Ive absolutely nothing against the Rocks lads, I don't know any of them personally, though I was impressed with the passion some of them showed about their club at different Board meetings. From a demographics point of view I also believe Gorey will need 2 clubs in the not so distant future, and from a logistics point of view they are making great strides with their facilities, so are absolutely worth supporting in any way we can right now.
Tbh I still don't believe that they want to go it alone at adult.
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Replying To Timbertony: "More than likely a consequence of the current club championship format. Kilanerin lads will always prioritise football so the hurling side of the amalgamation will lose out in terms of priority. Would be surprised if the Rocks have enough numbers without Kilanerin at the same time." A fall out at underage apparently. Was only chatting to a current adult player the other day and from a hurling point of view everything was going well. Kilanerin senior team are all kilanerin players anyway so I'm told.
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Replying To Trueblue123: "A fall out at underage apparently. Was only chatting to a current adult player the other day and from a hurling point of view everything was going well. Kilanerin senior team are all kilanerin players anyway so I'm told." Yes I'd imagine, Kilaneirn would be happy enough, its probably a stick they are beat with too often being joined with Tara Rocks, when most of the team are Kilanerin players. They will probably look to entice a few players back I'd imagine, probably a few minors coming up this year also, you'd be surprised how quicly they could make up 20 players, I'd be fairly confiident in saying they wont be going back intermediate, will be a lower grade, Junior or Junior A. Probably prioritising football underage which they have made great strides at in recent years.
alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 12/11/2025 10:22:08
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Replying To Magpie2: "The only way to get noticed and attract attention is by achieving success. The media at national level will inevitably give much more coverage to winning teams. They want banner headlines of outstanding performances by counties or clubs that have won all irelands and provided us with hugely talented players.
Let's be honest, wexford has been in the doldrums for years so why would the press or TV want to be interested?. We as a county haven't given them much to report on of late in terms of success.
The only way to change all that is to win something. Be it a Leinster title or if you're really optimistic an all ireland. Then I guarantee you the media will swarm all over us and there will be no end to the banner headlines all directed at our county.
Failure to achieve the above will only mean tiny paragraphs at the bottom of page 78.
That I'm afraid is the reality." Seán Moran: Wexford hurling stirs itself after dismal decade begins to clear - The Irish Times https://share.google/pRlmXe6OvtnDWD7eR
Some positive National media coverage.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17472 - 12/11/2025 10:23:25
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Replying To alwaysasub: "Yes I'd imagine, Kilaneirn would be happy enough, its probably a stick they are beat with too often being joined with Tara Rocks, when most of the team are Kilanerin players. They will probably look to entice a few players back I'd imagine, probably a few minors coming up this year also, you'd be surprised how quicly they could make up 20 players, I'd be fairly confiident in saying they wont be going back intermediate, will be a lower grade, Junior or Junior A. Probably prioritising football underage which they have made great strides at in recent years." They've had very good underage hurlers in recent years. Padraig Jones was one of the best county u20s last year, along with Eoin Hughes who still has 2 more years at u20. Jack and Ciaran Gethings are good prospects also. Think they are all Kilanerin but not 100% sure?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17472 - 12/11/2025 10:46:55
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