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@formertownie - the Tara Rocks/Kilanerin thing comes up every few years for renewal. I stand to be corrected, but I think they're currently in Year 2 of a three-year cycle. That would mean they'd be together again next year all right, but that if want to continue that way after that, they'd have to come back to the County Board again to seek approval for the next few years.
FWIW, rumour has it that the last time it was up for renewal, Rocks wanted to apply for five years but Kilanerin only wanted two. They compromised by applying for three. Could be a sign that Kilanerin aren't as enthusiastic about it as the other side are.
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Replying To Viking66: "There aren't any defined catchment areas in Gorey or Wexford town. But yes you are right there'd be a feeling that lads from certain areas should play for certain clubs. Hence the complaining when lads from the Vols went to the trouble of going around all the schools in town." Sorry, I picked your previous post up wrong where you said "A bit like Wexford town it would probably help if the clubs there had clearly defined areas of the town as catchment areas".
I see now how you must have meant that having defined catchment areas would help in Wexford town too.
Not that having defined areas in Gorey, "a bit like they have in Wexford", would help in Gorey.
Anyway, as it stands, no defined catchment areas in either town because both towns are all just the one parish. Unlike Enniscorthy, where the divide is between Enniscorthy Parish & Templeshannon Parish.
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Replying To Trueblue123: "Correct, realistically if a parent has any interest in GAA they'll send their child to the senior hurling and senior football club that's also affiliated with the town primary schools (Brothers/Loreto). But those that don't could be targeted.
It doesn't look good for Tara Rocks. Hobbs and Breen have been on the road a long time at this stage for them to be fair.
B geals are playing oulart in the minor premier hurling semi this weekend. The team is all kilanerin players so I'm told. A couple of these will be playing intermediate next year (Eoin Hughes for sure).
We could be looking at a Tara Rock team made up with 14/15 Kilanerin players over the next few years.
Good to hear their numbers are up at the younger age groups, and Gorey is only getting bigger so numbers should increase.
Not sure how voting works for the future, but it would be a sad day if the Tara Rock adult team was no more." There was another deferral at the last CB meeting where this was discussed. There was a strong feeling in the room that Gorey will need 2 clubs in the not too distant future also, from a demographic point of view. The Rocks lads made a very good case, and it was very apparent how passionate they were about their club, and how much work they were putting in, both with younger players starting out, and their grounds.
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Replying To Formertownie: "Was the underlyning reason as a cynic . That kilanerin would have access to more players from Gorey town, was the vision the rebirth of tara rocks as hurling stronghold , was it a last ditch attempt to attract new players to help a hurling club survive . Will we see 2 seperate clubs emerge one hurling only and one football only . If this is the case would kilanerin still get transfers in from gorey town as not in the catchment area and tara rocks in from kilanerin catchement area will it be shut down as ineligible. Or will it stay as is forever. Amalgamation of underage a long time ago may have been the catalyst of the downfall of tara rock to ballinstraw gaels .
. Looks like Kilanerin hold all the aces here .
Just curiosity is there a plan or will it just continue indefinitely. Just like any club they will do what they can to improve player participation and growth if possible . Bending rules." There's no plan for the adult arrangement to continue indefinitely. And at underage with the huge growth in population in North Wexford you would hope that there'd be no need to continue with Ballynastragh Gaels either down the line.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17083 - 17/09/2025 12:07:17
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Replying To Viking66: "There's no plan for the adult arrangement to continue indefinitely. And at underage with the huge growth in population in North Wexford you would hope that there'd be no need to continue with Ballynastragh Gaels either down the line." Possibly not yet how many years now are ballinstraw gaels amalgamated underage . 15 or 20 years at least.
If they separated now would tara rocks survive .
Are all hurling games played in tara rocks grounds underage
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 449 - 17/09/2025 12:47:32
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Replying To Viking66: "There's no plan for the adult arrangement to continue indefinitely. And at underage with the huge growth in population in North Wexford you would hope that there'd be no need to continue with Ballynastragh Gaels either down the line." If you search ballinstraw results or fixtures on wexford gaa u will come up with a blank .
I still question how at u21 which is classed as an adult comp they compete as amalgamated not tara rocks or kilanerin .
Do they use different jerseys as amalgzmated are obliged to like other amalgamated teams .
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 449 - 17/09/2025 13:07:35
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Replying To Formertownie: "Possibly not yet how many years now are ballinstraw gaels amalgamated underage . 15 or 20 years at least.
If they separated now would tara rocks survive .
Are all hurling games played in tara rocks grounds underage" I remember my own club playing Ballinastragh Gaels all the way back in 2007. Possible they were already joined up that way for a few years before that too.
Tara Rocks haven't a hope in fielding at underage by themselves, and will tell you that directly. It was suggested to them that they'd at least field by themselves in U8 & U10 Go Games this year, where you'd get away with as little as eight or ten a side. They didn't even want to do that.
I can't say for sure that all B/Stragh Gaels underage hurling matches are at the Tara Rocks pitch, but can say that any time I've had to go there with a team myself for hurling, that it's been to the Rocks pitch all right. So I presume they're all there, unless the pitch is unavailable for some other reason.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3112 - 17/09/2025 13:25:44
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Replying To Formertownie: "Possibly not yet how many years now are ballinstraw gaels amalgamated underage . 15 or 20 years at least.
If they separated now would tara rocks survive .
Are all hurling games played in tara rocks grounds underage" Afaik they are played there
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17083 - 17/09/2025 13:57:27
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Just to add to my earlier point about fixtures nightmare.
My dad was talking to somebody on the fixtures committee and the latest constraint is Clubber and broadband facilities, due to their need for good broadband to stream the matches.
So its another logistic in an already logistically difficult job.
Bear all that in mind the next time you complain about fixtures.
StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1933 - 17/09/2025 14:18:53
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On another note, Rathnure played Oulart in Junior B district final. Just looking at the players that lined out and what they have achieved in their careers I don't think you would find anywhere else in the country at a junior B game
All Ireland Senior County winner
Leinster Senior County winners including a winning captain
Intermediate All Ireland winners
Junior All Ireland winners
Leinster u21 winners
Tony Forristal winners
All Ireland club finalists
Leinster club medals senior and intermediate
Senior County medals must be at least 50 between two teams
Intermediate county medals
Junior county medals
Junior B hurling and football medals
Premier underage at every grade including Brendan O leary who has 6 u21 titles
All Ireland PP finalists
Leinster PP winners
All Ireland boxing champions
All Ireland Kick boxing champion
Olympian at 2012 Olympics
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Replying To camánouttathat: "On another note, Rathnure played Oulart in Junior B district final. Just looking at the players that lined out and what they have achieved in their careers I don't think you would find anywhere else in the country at a junior B game
All Ireland Senior County winner
Leinster Senior County winners including a winning captain
Intermediate All Ireland winners
Junior All Ireland winners
Leinster u21 winners
Tony Forristal winners
All Ireland club finalists
Leinster club medals senior and intermediate
Senior County medals must be at least 50 between two teams
Intermediate county medals
Junior county medals
Junior B hurling and football medals
Premier underage at every grade including Brendan O leary who has 6 u21 titles
All Ireland PP finalists
Leinster PP winners
All Ireland boxing champions
All Ireland Kick boxing champion
Olympian at 2012 Olympics" Impressive list for sure!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17083 - 18/09/2025 08:48:26
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Replying To Pikeman96: "I've had a look at the programme for last weekend and also the list of approved transfers for this year, to see who was moving in opposite directions between the clubs for hurling & football.
I make it that of the Tara Rocks Intermediate team, just two of the named 15 and three of the subs were actually Tara Rocks player.
Same with their Junior 'A' team: just two of the named 15 and three of the subs actually Tara Rocks player.
If you consider that the two starters on the Junior 'A' team were also subs on the Intermediate team, that means they had just eight hurlers togged out at the weekend.
This Tara Rocks/Kilanerin arrangement has been in place since 2017 and we were told at the time that the whole idea was to allow Tara Rocks get back to being able to field in their own right within about five years. Instead, looks like they're further away from it than ever." Was it definitely done to help Tara Rocks ?? This was wrote at the time and was presented to county board - decling population in the area ? Not the case now and Idon't think it ever was an issue - they have huge numbers from U6 up to adult and fielding 3 adult football teams.
But in an effort to overcome this, Kilanerin and Tara Rocks, who have been amalgamated at under-age levels for some ten years, are applying to the County Board for permission to join, but under separate identities, with Ballyfad hurling uniting with Tara Rocks, while the Rocks footballers would transfer over to Kilanerin.
Kilanerin feel, given their declining population base, coupled with the fact that the clubs have long been united at under-age as Ballinastragh Gaels, that the time has arrived for both to join forces at adult level for playing purposes.
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Replying To grassroots01: "Was it definitely done to help Tara Rocks ?? This was wrote at the time and was presented to county board - decling population in the area ? Not the case now and Idon't think it ever was an issue - they have huge numbers from U6 up to adult and fielding 3 adult football teams.
But in an effort to overcome this, Kilanerin and Tara Rocks, who have been amalgamated at under-age levels for some ten years, are applying to the County Board for permission to join, but under separate identities, with Ballyfad hurling uniting with Tara Rocks, while the Rocks footballers would transfer over to Kilanerin.
Kilanerin feel, given their declining population base, coupled with the fact that the clubs have long been united at under-age as Ballinastragh Gaels, that the time has arrived for both to join forces at adult level for playing purposes." A minefield now . Mostly due to other clubs possibly realising the real reasons for originally joining up Another superclub on the outskirts of a town . With access to a town s population .
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 449 - 18/09/2025 11:04:02
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Replying To grassroots01: "Was it definitely done to help Tara Rocks ?? This was wrote at the time and was presented to county board - decling population in the area ? Not the case now and Idon't think it ever was an issue - they have huge numbers from U6 up to adult and fielding 3 adult football teams.
But in an effort to overcome this, Kilanerin and Tara Rocks, who have been amalgamated at under-age levels for some ten years, are applying to the County Board for permission to join, but under separate identities, with Ballyfad hurling uniting with Tara Rocks, while the Rocks footballers would transfer over to Kilanerin.
Kilanerin feel, given their declining population base, coupled with the fact that the clubs have long been united at under-age as Ballinastragh Gaels, that the time has arrived for both to join forces at adult level for playing purposes." https://www.independent.ie/regionals/wexford/sport/gaa/kilanerin-and-tara-rocks-look-to-join-clubs-at-adult-level/35391842.html
Brendan Furlongs article in full. The slant you have highlighted in italics fails to mention that the problem was Tara Rocks' primarily, it gives the impression that Kilanerin were the ones pushing for it, which wasn't the case.
In 2017 Kilanerin weren't even a Senior Football club.
Ballyfad and Tara Rocks were hurling Junior.
There have been very few Tara Rocks footballers kick Senior Football for Kilanerin. There are currently only 4, I think, Tara Rocks underage players playing for Ballynastragh Gaels at u14, u16 and minor combined.
I just don't see what the big benefit to Kilanerin is that you are implying in that post.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17083 - 18/09/2025 12:46:03
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Replying To Formertownie: "A minefield now . Mostly due to other clubs possibly realising the real reasons for originally joining up Another superclub on the outskirts of a town . With access to a town s population ." The reality of the last 8 years totally contradicts what you are saying here. Who are all these town players playing for Kilanerin? Name even a dozen playing at adult, u21, minor, u16 and u14 combined. I doubt there is even a dozen.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17083 - 18/09/2025 12:48:26
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Replying To grassroots01: "Was it definitely done to help Tara Rocks ?? This was wrote at the time and was presented to county board - decling population in the area ? Not the case now and Idon't think it ever was an issue - they have huge numbers from U6 up to adult and fielding 3 adult football teams.
But in an effort to overcome this, Kilanerin and Tara Rocks, who have been amalgamated at under-age levels for some ten years, are applying to the County Board for permission to join, but under separate identities, with Ballyfad hurling uniting with Tara Rocks, while the Rocks footballers would transfer over to Kilanerin.
Kilanerin feel, given their declining population base, coupled with the fact that the clubs have long been united at under-age as Ballinastragh Gaels, that the time has arrived for both to join forces at adult level for playing purposes." I googled that whole passage to see exactly where it came from. Will choose my words carefully here, but let's just say it came from somebody whose articles could never be regarded as Gospel.
There's even evidence of this further one in the same piece, where he calls on the County Board to re-instate the 'Isolated Player' rule. It was never actually done away with, so it was still on the books at the time he wrote that, but that didn't stop him writing it anyway.
Still possible of course that Kilanerin really did put up an argument about worries over declining population in their own area. However, I was a club delegate at the time the County Board first approved the arrangement in 2017, and I don't recall anybody from Kilanerin making that argument there. What I do recall is the Tara Rocks spokesman making a very impassioned plea about how the club would have to fold if this thing wasn't voted through.
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Replying To Viking66: "Impressive list for sure!" Curious to know who is the Leinster Intermediate Club winner?
Both Rathnure and Oulart would have senior club winnders?
MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 229 - 18/09/2025 13:14:17
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Replying To camánouttathat: "On another note, Rathnure played Oulart in Junior B district final. Just looking at the players that lined out and what they have achieved in their careers I don't think you would find anywhere else in the country at a junior B game
All Ireland Senior County winner
Leinster Senior County winners including a winning captain
Intermediate All Ireland winners
Junior All Ireland winners
Leinster u21 winners
Tony Forristal winners
All Ireland club finalists
Leinster club medals senior and intermediate
Senior County medals must be at least 50 between two teams
Intermediate county medals
Junior county medals
Junior B hurling and football medals
Premier underage at every grade including Brendan O leary who has 6 u21 titles
All Ireland PP finalists
Leinster PP winners
All Ireland boxing champions
All Ireland Kick boxing champion
Olympian at 2012 Olympics" Do you have the two teams?
Trying to match them all the whole morning:)
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Replying To Pikeman96: "I googled that whole passage to see exactly where it came from. Will choose my words carefully here, but let's just say it came from somebody whose articles could never be regarded as Gospel.
There's even evidence of this further one in the same piece, where he calls on the County Board to re-instate the 'Isolated Player' rule. It was never actually done away with, so it was still on the books at the time he wrote that, but that didn't stop him writing it anyway.
Still possible of course that Kilanerin really did put up an argument about worries over declining population in their own area. However, I was a club delegate at the time the County Board first approved the arrangement in 2017, and I don't recall anybody from Kilanerin making that argument there. What I do recall is the Tara Rocks spokesman making a very impassioned plea about how the club would have to fold if this thing wasn't voted through." Isolated player rule is still in effect at both underage and adult level.
MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 229 - 18/09/2025 14:00:38
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Replying To Viking66: "The reality of the last 8 years totally contradicts what you are saying here. Who are all these town players playing for Kilanerin? Name even a dozen playing at adult, u21, minor, u16 and u14 combined. I doubt there is even a dozen." Viking I think u misinterpret what I m saying they have access did nt say they actually had big numbers from the town but its a default setting other clubs would not have .
But who's to say that wont happen in the future if it went through .
I d be fairly sure that was in the mindset originally.
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 449 - 18/09/2025 14:13:24
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