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Shorts Vs Skorts

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Replying To Yadse:  "Odd reaction to all of this....we are always told how the GAA is a grassroots, members organization, and it reflects the members values, and those of all its constituent parts
But then its said that its not the fault of the GAA that camogie players are not allowed to wear what they want its some other group
This looks terrible for the GAA writ large, it looks terrible for the GAA bureaucracy, the executives, the members, the Congress, the clubs
And the GAA for all they blather on about rules and regulations have always found a way in the past to bend those rules when it suits them
And does it really matter why its an issue now - its been an issue in the past, and clearly players are not happy, and feel the need to drive change. Much as the GAA would love to kick this can down the road (again) and hid behind their rulebook, I dont think they have that luxury
Otherwise they could be looking at a players strike
GAA need to bring in a temporary rule giving players a choice in what to wear, say its temporary, and say it will be voted on the next Congress for ratification"
Another clown without a clue. Embarrassing.

ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 498 - 06/05/2025 05:04:27    2606975

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Have no sympathy for these players. Didnt have the guts to stay off the pitch on Sunday. Was all they had to do and be followed by every team from then on. What?, they going to throw ALL teams out of the competition? Players stop whinging. You gave the power in your own hands.

ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 498 - 06/05/2025 05:11:00    2606976

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There is a lot wrong with how Camogie is run.
How the skirt/skort/short thing is going on in this day and age is beyond logic.

The players are that serious about it either. They still all changed before the match the last day, rather than go through with the protest

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1382 - 06/05/2025 06:31:48    2606978

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Ridiculous thats thays still the case. Should bw one organisation inatead of 3"
Regularly have tried but both won't join the GAA.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1617 - 06/05/2025 08:11:15    2606987

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "You appear to somehow have missed how it's already been pointed many times that this is not a GAA issue.

It's a Camogie Association issue, brought about solely and wholly by people in the Camogie Association."
The Comogie association want people thinking this. It takes away any accountability from them and they can pass on the blame.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1617 - 06/05/2025 08:12:42    2606988

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Replying To Bon:  "Sure look how many goalkeepers wear tracksuit tops or training jerseys with no numbers, there's never an issue with that"
Well that's true. Althoughif an outfield player was to would they be allowed to do it?

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1617 - 06/05/2025 08:13:38    2606989

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Replying To oneoff:  "While I agree I don't really see the difference between wearing Shorts or Skorts. But can male players now argue that they should be able to wear tracksuit pants if they find it more comfortable in football or hurling?"
You're missing the point. In arguing for a right to wear tracksuit trousers, men would be arguing for a right to wear something that is less functional than the shorts they already wear.

In this case, women are arguing for the opposite - a right to wear sports clothing that is more functional than what currently is being forced on them.

Above all, sports clothing should be functional.

Skorts (the word is as ridiculous as the garment) are entirely non-functional. They essentially are a pair of shorts with a useless swathe of additional material attached.

That additional material has no practical / sporting function whatsoever, and is only there to appease the 1930s ideas some folk in the Camogie Association have about women's sports clothing.

It's a wonder the Camogie Association doesn't make them wear head-scarves.

points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 292 - 06/05/2025 08:34:16    2606992

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A compromise needs to be found or this could really ruin what is such a captivating competition. We don't need people turning away from our sport.

Could they agree to wearing knee length shorts or even three quarter length ones?? Would that work?

bláthach (Leitrim) - Posts: 77 - 06/05/2025 08:49:12    2606997

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Ridiculous thats thays still the case. Should bw one organisation inatead of 3"
It absolutely shouldn't although it'll be hilarious when they do merge.

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 284 - 06/05/2025 09:17:36    2607003

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Replying To Onion Breath:  "Choice is the best way to go for camoige.

But when they had the opportunity to vote for that they rejected it also.

Reality is, and this is not me trying to be smart or funny, but many camoige players at club level, less so at inter county, don't want the obligation or even the option of wearing shorts. The skort preserves a more modesty in that area for those with a larger girth, considerably more so than shorts which are seen as grand for skinnier ones, which inter county players will tend to be. Some players will give up playing rather than wear shorts and they don't want the option either as they don't want to look like the odd one out on a team of mainly short wearers. I'm not being funny but that is the elephant in the room here with this issue."
They should be let wear shorts if they want to, leave it as an option, they could even wear them sports leggings on a cold day you see many women wearing walking round the streets nowadays, nothing wrong with that.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3183 - 06/05/2025 10:22:16    2607019

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Ridiculous thats thays still the case. Should bw one organisation inatead of 3"
For financial reasons are they better off having 3 instead of 1.?

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3178 - 06/05/2025 10:33:34    2607023

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Replying To Yadse:  "Odd reaction to all of this....we are always told how the GAA is a grassroots, members organization, and it reflects the members values, and those of all its constituent parts
But then its said that its not the fault of the GAA that camogie players are not allowed to wear what they want its some other group
This looks terrible for the GAA writ large, it looks terrible for the GAA bureaucracy, the executives, the members, the Congress, the clubs
And the GAA for all they blather on about rules and regulations have always found a way in the past to bend those rules when it suits them
And does it really matter why its an issue now - its been an issue in the past, and clearly players are not happy, and feel the need to drive change. Much as the GAA would love to kick this can down the road (again) and hid behind their rulebook, I dont think they have that luxury
Otherwise they could be looking at a players strike
GAA need to bring in a temporary rule giving players a choice in what to wear, say its temporary, and say it will be voted on the next Congress for ratification"
Sure thats like saying the GAA need to bring in rules governing rugby or association football! How do some people still not realise that GAA is a seperate organisation.

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 769 - 06/05/2025 10:37:16    2607025

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Don't tennis players have to wear them as well ?

Kew (Galway) - Posts: 160 - 06/05/2025 11:00:17    2607032

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Replying To ORIELMAN85:  "Have no sympathy for these players. Didnt have the guts to stay off the pitch on Sunday. Was all they had to do and be followed by every team from then on. What?, they going to throw ALL teams out of the competition? Players stop whinging. You gave the power in your own hands."
There protest on Saturday was to draw attention to the issue. It worked. Not only are government figures talking about it, the story is now in the news around the world.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2755 - 06/05/2025 11:30:44    2607048

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Replying To Kew:  "Don't tennis players have to wear them as well ?"
No.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2755 - 06/05/2025 11:31:09    2607049

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Replying To supersub15:  "For financial reasons are they better off having 3 instead of 1.?"
For sure. When they all merge watch gaa ticket prices and subscription prices for their gaago stuff skyrocket. Because the ladies will demand equal expenses etc. It will cripple the gaa. Bring it on.

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 284 - 06/05/2025 11:44:03    2607052

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Ridiculous thats thays still the case. Should bw one organisation inatead of 3"
Plans are afoot to merge the 3 organisations by 2027.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1301 - 06/05/2025 11:54:53    2607055

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Replying To Onion Breath:  "Choice is the best way to go for camoige.

But when they had the opportunity to vote for that they rejected it also.

Reality is, and this is not me trying to be smart or funny, but many camoige players at club level, less so at inter county, don't want the obligation or even the option of wearing shorts. The skort preserves a more modesty in that area for those with a larger girth, considerably more so than shorts which are seen as grand for skinnier ones, which inter county players will tend to be. Some players will give up playing rather than wear shorts and they don't want the option either as they don't want to look like the odd one out on a team of mainly short wearers. I'm not being funny but that is the elephant in the room here with this issue."
Good explanation which makes me question even more is there another agenda at play which we're not aware of?

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1301 - 06/05/2025 12:05:10    2607057

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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns:  "For sure. When they all merge watch gaa ticket prices and subscription prices for their gaago stuff skyrocket. Because the ladies will demand equal expenses etc. It will cripple the gaa. Bring it on."
The first thing the ladies will demand is proper facilities, toilets etc.
There wouldn't have ever been a ladies Football or camogie association if the old f*rts in the GAA had welcomed women in the first place.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1382 - 06/05/2025 12:08:37    2607059

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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns:  "For sure. When they all merge watch gaa ticket prices and subscription prices for their gaago stuff skyrocket. Because the ladies will demand equal expenses etc. It will cripple the gaa. Bring it on."
It won't cripple the GAA.It'll make it easier for clubs and counties to schedule games, training and to get younger players involved. Will potentially be a bigger plus to attract sponsors. I'm convinced that the GAA are nowhere close to realising the marketing potential that it has. They have taken Cúl Camps for granted, what would other sports organisatuons do if they had that every simmer to bring on new players and keep them in their sport? Look at how LIDL have benefitted from LGFA. But the politics of it, changing a few sexist atitudes and a lot of bruised egos will make it difficult to set up.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7970 - 06/05/2025 12:28:12    2607065

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