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Replying To CillTormoir: "Can any Dublin supporters shed light where our match on 25th will be with Parnell currently closed." It will be in Parnell on the 25th. Pitch is fine
Deegoyaboll1x (Dublin) - Posts: 15 - 17/05/2025 01:12:32
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Replying To Pikeman96: " Replying To Firceall: "[quote=Cockney_Cat: "<b>Saturday 17 May</b>
Leinster MHC semi-final
Kilkenny v Dublin, Nowlan Park, 2pm
<b>Sunday 18 May</b>
Leinster SHC Round 4
Kilkenny v Dublin, UPMC Nowlan Park 3.00pm
Why can't the Minor's game be played before the Seniors?"</div>I think a central council decision was made a few years ago that minor matches should not be held with seniors because it was felt there could be too much pressure on the teenagers. That decision should probably be revisiited in my opinion. I imagine all of the Dublin and KK minors would prefer to play before the seniors. They are probably old enough to learn from one-sided matches matches or from individual mistakes etc.." That's part of it. That decision was made around the time or not long after minor changed from U18 to U17, because now anybody playing inter-county minor at this time of year is either still just 16 years old or has only recently turned 17. I agree however that it should be revisited. However, it's not that they can't be allowed. Wexford played Galway last year in a minor & senior double-header at Wexford Park. With regard to this Kilkenny v Dublin one though, another part of it is that it was set out months ago that the Leinster Minor Hurling semi-finals would be played on Saturday May 17th - i.e. long before it was known that Kilkenny & Dublin would come through the group and preliminary play-offs in such a way as to be facing each other in this one. Presumably the case that it could have been switched to act as a curtain-raiser for the senior match on the Sunday if both sides agreed. But my guess is that even if that was attempted, Dublin wouldn't agree to it. And I don't mean that in any bad way about Dublin. If I was the Dublin manager, I'd be highly unlikely to agree to it either."]Why would they not agree with it? Or yourself?
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 910 - 17/05/2025 09:58:03
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@countyman2022 - as regards why somebody (including myself) might not agree to that - think about it:
If you were bringing a crowd of 16-year-olds and barely-turned-17-year-olds to Nowlan Park to play Kilkenny in a championship semi-final, would you rather play them:
a) in front of a relatively small crowd of probably no more than 1,000 to 1,500 (at a push) throughout the game, or
b) in front of a crowd that could swell to 8,000 or more as the game goes on, and where the crowd could make a difference to the Kilkenny players and even the referee if the match was tight in the closing stages?
The crowd does make a difference sometimes.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3155 - 17/05/2025 11:17:32
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Replying To Pikeman96: "@countyman2022 - as regards why somebody (including myself) might not agree to that - think about it:
If you were bringing a crowd of 16-year-olds and barely-turned-17-year-olds to Nowlan Park to play Kilkenny in a championship semi-final, would you rather play them:
a) in front of a relatively small crowd of probably no more than 1,000 to 1,500 (at a push) throughout the game, or
b) in front of a crowd that could swell to 8,000 or more as the game goes on, and where the crowd could make a difference to the Kilkenny players and even the referee if the match was tight in the closing stages?
The crowd does make a difference sometimes." Be a great experience and learning curve for them. And realistically, max attendance tomorrow seems be 7.5k, alot might not be in for the minor. Just a thought, loved playing in front of bigger crowds at that age group. Develops guys.
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 910 - 17/05/2025 11:41:03
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Replying To BarneyGrant: "Ah stop!
Dublin team beat another fancied Galway team last night and yet one newspaper blamed the wind and the wides, despite Dublin having played with same wind - which blew diagonally from one corner to other so no great help to either - and had just one less wide!
Dublin like Na Fianna were the better team. That is why they won. They also won because they wanted it more and were the physically more aggressive and tougher team.
Which i recall the lack of was once a great source of mirth to yourselves and others when hammering the "soft Dubs." If we lose now, it is to BETTER tougher teams. That be the Cats, and whoever we've met from Munster in knockout." I was at it. Loughrea missed too much in the first half. If they put them away game was over at HT
BigBàsMan (Galway) - Posts: 199 - 17/05/2025 12:35:52
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Replying To Pikeman96: "@countyman2022 - as regards why somebody (including myself) might not agree to that - think about it:
If you were bringing a crowd of 16-year-olds and barely-turned-17-year-olds to Nowlan Park to play Kilkenny in a championship semi-final, would you rather play them:
a) in front of a relatively small crowd of probably no more than 1,000 to 1,500 (at a push) throughout the game, or
b) in front of a crowd that could swell to 8,000 or more as the game goes on, and where the crowd could make a difference to the Kilkenny players and even the referee if the match was tight in the closing stages?
The crowd does make a difference sometimes." I would say the crowd makes a massive difference to be honest, particularly the away team.
I loved playing in front of a crowd to be honest but times have changed a bit
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3971 - 17/05/2025 13:06:43
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@countyman2022 - all well and good, but if you're manager of an U17 team playing a provincial semi-final, what's your priority - that they learn what it's like to play in front of a big crowd of opposition supporters that could possibly sway things somewhat, or that they win the match?
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3155 - 17/05/2025 13:45:59
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Replying To BigBàsMan: "I was at it. Loughrea missed too much in the first half. If they put them away game was over at HT" Loughrea had 7 first half wides, Na Fianna had 5.
People may draw their own conclusions from that I suppose.
I'd imagine Na Fianna and indeed Loughrea have moved on since then..
I was at it too.
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3720 - 17/05/2025 13:50:07
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Replying To countyman2022: " Replying To Pikeman96: "<b>@countyman2022</b> - as regards why somebody (including myself) might not agree to that - think about it:
If you were bringing a crowd of 16-year-olds and barely-turned-17-year-olds to Nowlan Park to play Kilkenny in a championship semi-final, would you rather play them:
a) in front of a relatively small crowd of probably no more than 1,000 to 1,500 (at a push) throughout the game, or
b) in front of a crowd that could swell to 8,000 or more as the game goes on, and where the crowd could make a difference to the Kilkenny players and even the referee if the match was tight in the closing stages?
The crowd does make a difference sometimes."</div>Be a great experience and learning curve for them. And realistically, max attendance tomorrow seems be 7.5k, alot might not be in for the minor. Just a thought, loved playing in front of bigger crowds at that age group. Develops guys." I think the experience would have to be good for them, if they have any designs on top level hurling they have to be used to playing in front of a crowd.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17228 - 17/05/2025 15:04:15
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Replying To BigBàsMan: "I was at it. Loughrea missed too much in the first half. If they put them away game was over at HT" As you know I wouldn't have much love for Loughrea,...but I agree they definitely threw that game away.
katser (Galway) - Posts: 2732 - 17/05/2025 16:12:12
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Replying To katser: "As you know I wouldn't have much love for Loughrea,...but I agree they definitely threw that game away." Haha
BigBàsMan (Galway) - Posts: 199 - 17/05/2025 16:47:57
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Replying To BarneyGrant: "Loughrea had 7 first half wides, Na Fianna had 5.
People may draw their own conclusions from that I suppose.
I'd imagine Na Fianna and indeed Loughrea have moved on since then..
I was at it too." There is a difference between a wide and bad wide
BigBàsMan (Galway) - Posts: 199 - 17/05/2025 16:48:51
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Replying To BigBàsMan: "There is a difference between a wide and bad wide" Give it up. Always an excuse.
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3720 - 17/05/2025 19:26:30
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Replying To katser: "As you know I wouldn't have much love for Loughrea,...but I agree they definitely threw that game away." Seems to be genetic and catching :-)
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3720 - 17/05/2025 19:36:39
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Replying To BigBàsMan: "I was at it. Loughrea missed too much in the first half. If they put them away game was over at HT" Shoulda coulda woulda….didn't…. sums up Galway hurling for me.
Na Fianna the best club in Ireland.
Past hurler (None) - Posts: 981 - 17/05/2025 19:57:47
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Replying To BigBàsMan: "There is a difference between a wide and bad wide" They're the same where it matters- on the scoreboard.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17228 - 17/05/2025 20:50:32
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Sounded like exciting game in Wexford Viking.
We both beat the stripey men and who knows!
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3720 - 17/05/2025 21:47:23
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Replying To BarneyGrant: "Sounded like exciting game in Wexford Viking.
We both beat the stripey men and who knows!" It was exciting ok Barney. Poor quality but exciting!!!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17228 - 17/05/2025 22:03:57
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Replying To Viking66: "It was exciting ok Barney. Poor quality but exciting!!!" That's what its about at the end of the day. Nothing to beat lads fighting for their jersey and their team mates.
Sure what else would be at!
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3720 - 17/05/2025 22:26:01
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Replying To BarneyGrant: "That's what its about at the end of the day. Nothing to beat lads fighting for their jersey and their team mates.
Sure what else would be at!" That's the one Barney!!!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17228 - 18/05/2025 00:33:11
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