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Replying To clooney:  "We in Clare haven't the in-depth talent to cope 4 players missing from our all Ireland final day that's our main problem Brian Lohan gave game time to a lot of players with only limited return as well as that some players from last year not motoring well . We are not offering excuses though and Waterford fully deserved there win. On the Adam Hogan incident he is a fine player has won a lot for somebody so young he's a niggly corner back but I would say not dirty but I hope he's embarrassed by his simulation yesterday it will bring trouble on him & Clare it has to stop its creeping into the GAA now for quiet a while. A Waterford back tried a simulation too"
Adam Hogan is a fine player, very mobile and tenacious and he doesn't need to resort to that kind of thing.

My pet hate is his knack of turning into the opposing teams outstretched Hurley and pulling it up around his neck to buy a free. Whether that is street smarts or simulation probably depends on whether your from Clare or playing against Clare.

Its not just Adam Hogan doing it though. Every county has them, and the game is so quick a ref only has a split second to make a decision on whether to blow for a free or not. Some refs are worse than others for blowing (i.e. Flash Gordon, Johnny Murphy and Sean Stack) and if you get one of them it stands to reason the players will try and play the ref

LimerickandProud (Limerick) - Posts: 135 - 28/04/2025 16:22:30    2605097

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Replying To clooney:  "We in Clare haven't the in-depth talent to cope 4 players missing from our all Ireland final day that's our main problem Brian Lohan gave game time to a lot of players with only limited return as well as that some players from last year not motoring well . We are not offering excuses though and Waterford fully deserved there win. On the Adam Hogan incident he is a fine player has won a lot for somebody so young he's a niggly corner back but I would say not dirty but I hope he's embarrassed by his simulation yesterday it will bring trouble on him & Clare it has to stop its creeping into the GAA now for quiet a while. A Waterford back tried a simulation too"
And did that Waterford back fail or succeed in his attempt?

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2197 - 28/04/2025 16:57:05    2605118

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Replying To Viking66:  "There should be retrospective bans for simulation."
If they're able to look back on footage for retrospective bans for foul play like the Flanagan incident there definitely should be the same for fellas blatantly diving and cheating. It's happening all the time now and every team is at it at some point.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2279 - 28/04/2025 17:03:44    2605119

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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin:  "Quick one for the Clare lads, what's the story with the Clare jerseys? They've wore 3 different jerseys this year. Wore the new one for the league, wore last years one v Cork and wore different one again v Waterford yesterday. It's only a small thing but it's very odd"
fierce bad dryin' down there in the last few weeks

Maroonatic (Galway) - Posts: 1066 - 28/04/2025 19:02:18    2605144

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "And did that Waterford back fail or succeed in his attempt?"
Waterford are capable of simulation like all teams. The camera showed Daly from behind. If you were on the other side you would clearly see he got elbowed in the face. Cusack is fine with head butting by Cork and is fooling no one when using his tinted glasses.
I hate. Simulation by all teams. Here what you do:
Have a unsportsmanlike assessment or simulation. Throw the ball in now if a free was going to be called. If no free give one the other way. No cards or Johnnie red card will have a field day.
You got to be careful not to open another can of worms. A player foul in the square and it left to one of these refs allowed decide what is simulation.
The best way is for players and managers to stop doing this sh-t and make it a no no in your own team.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3026 - 28/04/2025 20:07:57    2605155

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Replying To Canuck:  "Waterford are capable of simulation like all teams. The camera showed Daly from behind. If you were on the other side you would clearly see he got elbowed in the face. Cusack is fine with head butting by Cork and is fooling no one when using his tinted glasses.
I hate. Simulation by all teams. Here what you do:
Have a unsportsmanlike assessment or simulation. Throw the ball in now if a free was going to be called. If no free give one the other way. No cards or Johnnie red card will have a field day.
You got to be careful not to open another can of worms. A player foul in the square and it left to one of these refs allowed decide what is simulation.
The best way is for players and managers to stop doing this sh-t and make it a no no in your own team."
Personally I was pleased that Adam Hogan was pulled up by Cusack. It was a blatant dive that was intended to get Dessie Hutchinson sent off, and it's not the first time Hogan has done this. McCarthy of Tipp, can have no complaints, and it will be a learning experience for this fine prospect. Hopefully the amount of red cards will decrease for the remainder of the competition!

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 532 - 29/04/2025 11:14:26    2605287

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The facts are unofrtunately all teams are engaged in simulation, some players more others. What is very frustrating is the attempt from many of those in the media and elsewhere to try and portray McCarthy's red as a yellow, or trying to say Sean O Donoghue dived [laughable] or trying to get Dalton retrospectively banned for something which is clearly inconclusive [No evidence at all that he made contact with the Tipp player]. Daly and Jacob were absolutely pathetic and disgraceful for their inability to call out the red on the Sunday game for what it was. McCarthy is an exceptionally talented player who I don't believe is dirty yet had a rush of blood to the head and made a mistake. As Shefflin said he pre-emptively struck O Donoghue, no excuses can be made regardless of his age or reaction. Refs get a lot of stick and it's unfortunate for Johnny Murphy that many people are engaged in whataboutery instead of commending him for getting the big decision of the game absolutely spot on.
On the games themselves, delighted for Waterford. A lot of people haven't been giving them the respect they deserve. Waterford have some serious hurlers and are a match for anyone in the country when they play to their potential. Bennett and Barron were both exceptional. Clare missed Ryan, O Donnell and Kelly massively and they'll need some of those players back vs Tipp. I think Tipp showed great fight against Cork, didn't leave the heads drop and competed well. Exact opposite of their capitulation in Thurles vs Cork last year. Clare vs Tipp will be brilliant, very unfortunate that its on GAA+. Cork are in a good spot points wise but need the break massively. Still not really playing consistently to their potential and will need to be much better to compete for an All Ireland. Rob Downey's health is crucial, the hope is he will be fine for the Limerick game. Limerick are still my favourites for the All Ireland, the talent they possess from 1-20 is absolutely frightening. Next week will be an interesting test of themselves and Waterford. All to play for still.

Frontier1000 (Cork) - Posts: 61 - 29/04/2025 12:09:14    2605316

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@Ryanteam the more pundits highlight this, across every game, the quicker it goes away.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1333 - 29/04/2025 12:42:48    2605337

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