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Replying To Dothesimplethingswell:  "If you the papers this week you would see two articles one by a 3 time all ireland winning hurling manager, another by a 6 time all Ireland winning footballer and there are 3 current county managers weighing in with what Im referring to and Kerry county Council and others to follow just as I stated...Isn't this coming from voters if the political parties are getting involved?? You can say what you want but what I said is the complete opposite of populist its merely a reflection of what a lot of people are thinking."
There's an old saying that "paper never refused ink" and it's very true.

Those newspaper columns are just more examples of populism. Write that "all matches should be on free-to-air TV" and readers will think you're a great fella. Write that "all matches can't be on free-to-air TV because ....." and people will think you're an awful you-know-what.

Am not sure you understand the mechanics of Local Authorities either. Just because one councillor of one party proposes a motion and others from other parties support it doesn't mean it's a national policy of any of those parties, or make it any more likely to happen.

Look, I'd actually love to see every championship match on TV. But I'm realistic enough to understand why it can't happen. It's a pity certain others don't share those levels of realism.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3811 - 26/06/2026 15:32:40    2682092

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "There's an old saying that "paper never refused ink" and it's very true.

Those newspaper columns are just more examples of populism. Write that "all matches should be on free-to-air TV" and readers will think you're a great fella. Write that "all matches can't be on free-to-air TV because ....." and people will think you're an awful you-know-what.

Am not sure you understand the mechanics of Local Authorities either. Just because one councillor of one party proposes a motion and others from other parties support it doesn't mean it's a national policy of any of those parties, or make it any more likely to happen.

Look, I'd actually love to see every championship match on TV. But I'm realistic enough to understand why it can't happen. It's a pity certain others don't share those levels of realism."
I know they cant all happen and I didnt expect them all to be free and I understand that but if allowed then RTE could cover far more games... Correct me if Im wrong but dont they send cameras to the vast majority of games anyway so that they have highlights to show on the Sunday game? I didnt say it was national policy i said one county council introduced an emergency motion on this and most others are expected to follow. I said FG were pushing it too but that does not mean its national policy. The people in media and papers calling for change are much different characters to those who were promoting the sky deal...These people have nothing to gain except a return to a fairer system. I wont mention what the sky promoters gained from that deal but it was fairly obvious it was in their own interest. I listened to the GAA podcast today and 2 more very high profile recently retired players have highlighted the unfairness of the condensed season.

Dothesimplethingswell (Sligo) - Posts: 110 - 26/06/2026 16:28:30    2682109

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "There's an old saying that "paper never refused ink" and it's very true.

Those newspaper columns are just more examples of populism. Write that "all matches should be on free-to-air TV" and readers will think you're a great fella. Write that "all matches can't be on free-to-air TV because ....." and people will think you're an awful you-know-what.

Am not sure you understand the mechanics of Local Authorities either. Just because one councillor of one party proposes a motion and others from other parties support it doesn't mean it's a national policy of any of those parties, or make it any more likely to happen.

Look, I'd actually love to see every championship match on TV. But I'm realistic enough to understand why it can't happen. It's a pity certain others don't share those levels of realism."
people just want all the games available if you have to pay a annual subscription. instead of just 40 games which your team may not be involved in

combo (Galway) - Posts: 39 - 26/06/2026 18:14:05    2682122

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "As Square_B pointed out above, that County Council motion is nothing but populist nonsense. And in general, County Council motions for anything outside of the county that passes them are barely worth the paper they're written on anyway.

And seems you and others of your mindset continue to overlook several key considerations, including:
- Even if the GAA gave away the broadcast rights of all matches for free, how do they force RTE or any other broadcaster to actually show them? There's significant expense and logistics involved in every live broadcast.

- RTE continue to show as many or more live championship games free-to-air as they ever did. It's not the case that the extra number of matches now shown on GAA+ "used to be shown on RTE instead". Reality is that if they weren't shown on GAA+, they wouldn't be shown anywhere.

- We're in a GAA echo chamber here, but RTE - as a national public service broadcaster - would have to be mindful of the large proportion of the population who have no interest at all in watching GAA matches. Yes, they're showing wall-to-wall soccer at the moment and many of us have no great interest in soccer either, but that's for only a few weeks, every couple of years. If their schedule was full of live GAA every Saturday & Sunday from mid-April through to end of July every single year (and possibly beyond July if people who want the inter-county season extended got their way), then they'd alienate a large part of their viewership.

So again - a County Council motion demanding that all championship matches be shown live and free-to-air is nothing but populist nonsense. With no grounding whatsoever in reality."
"Even if the GAA gave away the broadcast rights of all matches for free, how do they force RTE or any other broadcaster to actually show them"
They never gave the rights away they only assumed almost full control in last few years by introducing their own channel. They never "forced" RTE to show them but somehow RTE always showed them maybe not free as we pay tv licence, tax etc but they showed then and there was no further charge to watch these games..Somehow rte were able to show vast majority of games when the season was a full 8 weeks longer but with the split season I fully accept they cannot possibly achieve this. Its unlikely rte will "alienate" viewers by showing westerns on a Sat afternoon and funnily enough when rte were showing most games I never heard of viewer alienship. Its amazing to me that defending a scenario that prevailed prevailed for well over 50 years is npw labelled as populus nonsense.

Dothesimplethingswell (Sligo) - Posts: 110 - 26/06/2026 20:06:06    2682138

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Replying To Dothesimplethingswell:  "
Replying To Pikeman96:  "As <b>Square_B</b> pointed out above, that County Council motion is nothing but populist nonsense. And in general, County Council motions for anything outside of the county that passes them are barely worth the paper they're written on anyway. And seems you and others of your mindset continue to overlook several key considerations, including: - Even if the GAA gave away the broadcast rights of all matches for free, how do they force RTE or any other broadcaster to actually show them? There's significant expense and logistics involved in every live broadcast. - RTE continue to show as many or more live championship games free-to-air as they ever did. It's not the case that the extra number of matches now shown on GAA+ "used to be shown on RTE instead". Reality is that if they weren't shown on GAA+, they wouldn't be shown anywhere. - We're in a GAA echo chamber here, but RTE - as a national public service broadcaster - would have to be mindful of the large proportion of the population who have no interest at all in watching GAA matches. Yes, they're showing wall-to-wall soccer at the moment and many of us have no great interest in soccer either, but that's for only a few weeks, every couple of years. If their schedule was full of live GAA every Saturday & Sunday from mid-April through to end of July every single year (and possibly beyond July if people who want the inter-county season extended got their way), then they'd alienate a large part of their viewership. So again - a County Council motion demanding that all championship matches be shown live and free-to-air is nothing but populist nonsense. With no grounding whatsoever in reality."</div>"Even if the GAA gave away the broadcast rights of all matches for free, how do they force RTE or any other broadcaster to actually show them" They never gave the rights away they only assumed almost full control in last few years by introducing their own channel. They never "forced" RTE to show them but somehow RTE always showed them maybe not free as we pay tv licence, tax etc but they showed then and there was no further charge to watch these games..Somehow rte were able to show vast majority of games when the season was a full 8 weeks longer but with the split season I fully accept they cannot possibly achieve this. Its unlikely rte will "alienate" viewers by showing westerns on a Sat afternoon and funnily enough when rte were showing most games I never heard of viewer alienship. Its amazing to me that defending a scenario that prevailed prevailed for well over 50 years is npw labelled as populus nonsense."
6 live games per year 50 years ago.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8671 - 27/06/2026 09:37:29    2682175

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Why have gaa plus got two teams talking about the game at half time? Both are pitch side two presenters it seems a bit excessive? Does anyone know why it done like this?

Kew (Galway) - Posts: 351 - 27/06/2026 16:56:51    2682214

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Replying To Kew:  "Why have gaa plus got two teams talking about the game at half time? Both are pitch side two presenters it seems a bit excessive? Does anyone know why it done like this?"
Probably knew you'd be watching, you know, just to wind you up.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 2288 - 27/06/2026 17:21:11    2682217

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Great coverage again today from tg4 for all Ireland minor final..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2712 - 27/06/2026 18:37:14    2682232

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "
Replying To Dothesimplethingswell:  "[quote=Pikeman96:  "As <b>Square_B</b> pointed out above, that County Council motion is nothing but populist nonsense. And in general, County Council motions for anything outside of the county that passes them are barely worth the paper they're written on anyway. And seems you and others of your mindset continue to overlook several key considerations, including: - Even if the GAA gave away the broadcast rights of all matches for free, how do they force RTE or any other broadcaster to actually show them? There's significant expense and logistics involved in every live broadcast. - RTE continue to show as many or more live championship games free-to-air as they ever did. It's not the case that the extra number of matches now shown on GAA+ "used to be shown on RTE instead". Reality is that if they weren't shown on GAA+, they wouldn't be shown anywhere. - We're in a GAA echo chamber here, but RTE - as a national public service broadcaster - would have to be mindful of the large proportion of the population who have no interest at all in watching GAA matches. Yes, they're showing wall-to-wall soccer at the moment and many of us have no great interest in soccer either, but that's for only a few weeks, every couple of years. If their schedule was full of live GAA every Saturday & Sunday from mid-April through to end of July every single year (and possibly beyond July if people who want the inter-county season extended got their way), then they'd alienate a large part of their viewership. So again - a County Council motion demanding that all championship matches be shown live and free-to-air is nothing but populist nonsense. With no grounding whatsoever in reality."</div>"Even if the GAA gave away the broadcast rights of all matches for free, how do they force RTE or any other broadcaster to actually show them" They never gave the rights away they only assumed almost full control in last few years by introducing their own channel. They never "forced" RTE to show them but somehow RTE always showed them maybe not free as we pay tv licence, tax etc but they showed then and there was no further charge to watch these games..Somehow rte were able to show vast majority of games when the season was a full 8 weeks longer but with the split season I fully accept they cannot possibly achieve this. Its unlikely rte will "alienate" viewers by showing westerns on a Sat afternoon and funnily enough when rte were showing most games I never heard of viewer alienship. Its amazing to me that defending a scenario that prevailed prevailed for well over 50 years is npw labelled as populus nonsense."
6 live games per year 50 years ago."]That info I could never gleam but 6 live games 50 years ago when technology was in its infancy and teams were knocked out after their first defeat was a proportionally miles ahead of today.

Dothesimplethingswell (Sligo) - Posts: 110 - 27/06/2026 23:18:07    2682316

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Replying To Dothesimplethingswell:  "
Replying To GreenandRed:  "[quote=Dothesimplethingswell:  "[quote=Pikeman96:  "As <b>Square_B</b> pointed out above, that County Council motion is nothing but populist nonsense. And in general, County Council motions for anything outside of the county that passes them are barely worth the paper they're written on anyway. And seems you and others of your mindset continue to overlook several key considerations, including: - Even if the GAA gave away the broadcast rights of all matches for free, how do they force RTE or any other broadcaster to actually show them? There's significant expense and logistics involved in every live broadcast. - RTE continue to show as many or more live championship games free-to-air as they ever did. It's not the case that the extra number of matches now shown on GAA+ "used to be shown on RTE instead". Reality is that if they weren't shown on GAA+, they wouldn't be shown anywhere. - We're in a GAA echo chamber here, but RTE - as a national public service broadcaster - would have to be mindful of the large proportion of the population who have no interest at all in watching GAA matches. Yes, they're showing wall-to-wall soccer at the moment and many of us have no great interest in soccer either, but that's for only a few weeks, every couple of years. If their schedule was full of live GAA every Saturday & Sunday from mid-April through to end of July every single year (and possibly beyond July if people who want the inter-county season extended got their way), then they'd alienate a large part of their viewership. So again - a County Council motion demanding that all championship matches be shown live and free-to-air is nothing but populist nonsense. With no grounding whatsoever in reality."</div>"Even if the GAA gave away the broadcast rights of all matches for free, how do they force RTE or any other broadcaster to actually show them" They never gave the rights away they only assumed almost full control in last few years by introducing their own channel. They never "forced" RTE to show them but somehow RTE always showed them maybe not free as we pay tv licence, tax etc but they showed then and there was no further charge to watch these games..Somehow rte were able to show vast majority of games when the season was a full 8 weeks longer but with the split season I fully accept they cannot possibly achieve this. Its unlikely rte will "alienate" viewers by showing westerns on a Sat afternoon and funnily enough when rte were showing most games I never heard of viewer alienship. Its amazing to me that defending a scenario that prevailed prevailed for well over 50 years is npw labelled as populus nonsense."
6 live games per year 50 years ago."]That info I could never gleam but 6 live games 50 years ago when technology was in its infancy and teams were knocked out after their first defeat was a proportionally miles ahead of today."]TV was not "in its infancy" in the 1970s. They'd broadcast TV from the moon in 1969 , broadcasting a GAA game was not some wild new technological feat. It was a deliberate choice by the GAA to only show the biggest games each year.

It wasn't until the 1990s that games outside of the AI semi finals and finals began to be regularly shown on TV. The notion that today's pensioners grew up watching every GAA game on RTÉ is a myth.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1746 - 28/06/2026 17:44:08    2682478

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The presenter Aishling Reilly said on more then 1 occasion Malachy O Rourke was in his first year as Tyrone manager. If people are paying for a service the broadcasters should be more informed

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2949 - 28/06/2026 19:03:20    2682563

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Replying To Dothesimplethingswell:  "
Replying To GreenandRed:  "[quote=Dothesimplethingswell:  "[quote=Pikeman96:  "As <b>Square_B</b> pointed out above, that County Council motion is nothing but populist nonsense. And in general, County Council motions for anything outside of the county that passes them are barely worth the paper they're written on anyway. And seems you and others of your mindset continue to overlook several key considerations, including: - Even if the GAA gave away the broadcast rights of all matches for free, how do they force RTE or any other broadcaster to actually show them? There's significant expense and logistics involved in every live broadcast. - RTE continue to show as many or more live championship games free-to-air as they ever did. It's not the case that the extra number of matches now shown on GAA+ "used to be shown on RTE instead". Reality is that if they weren't shown on GAA+, they wouldn't be shown anywhere. - We're in a GAA echo chamber here, but RTE - as a national public service broadcaster - would have to be mindful of the large proportion of the population who have no interest at all in watching GAA matches. Yes, they're showing wall-to-wall soccer at the moment and many of us have no great interest in soccer either, but that's for only a few weeks, every couple of years. If their schedule was full of live GAA every Saturday & Sunday from mid-April through to end of July every single year (and possibly beyond July if people who want the inter-county season extended got their way), then they'd alienate a large part of their viewership. So again - a County Council motion demanding that all championship matches be shown live and free-to-air is nothing but populist nonsense. With no grounding whatsoever in reality."</div>"Even if the GAA gave away the broadcast rights of all matches for free, how do they force RTE or any other broadcaster to actually show them" They never gave the rights away they only assumed almost full control in last few years by introducing their own channel. They never "forced" RTE to show them but somehow RTE always showed them maybe not free as we pay tv licence, tax etc but they showed then and there was no further charge to watch these games..Somehow rte were able to show vast majority of games when the season was a full 8 weeks longer but with the split season I fully accept they cannot possibly achieve this. Its unlikely rte will "alienate" viewers by showing westerns on a Sat afternoon and funnily enough when rte were showing most games I never heard of viewer alienship. Its amazing to me that defending a scenario that prevailed prevailed for well over 50 years is npw labelled as populus nonsense."
6 live games per year 50 years ago."]That info I could never gleam but 6 live games 50 years ago when technology was in its infancy and teams were knocked out after their first defeat was a proportionally miles ahead of today."]AKA. You keep contradicting yourself.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8671 - 28/06/2026 19:50:06    2682601

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "The presenter Aishling Reilly said on more then 1 occasion Malachy O Rourke was in his first year as Tyrone manager. If people are paying for a service the broadcasters should be more informed"
RTE isn't free either.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 2288 - 28/06/2026 20:58:22    2682648

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Replying To Square_B:  "RTE isn't free either."
People in the North don't the Rte licence. Gaa + is exclusively for GAA and should have decent standard.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2949 - 28/06/2026 21:27:54    2682664

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I suppose one positive from gaa plus is it's not just ex Dublin players or Dublin commentators or presenters. I found the coverage of the Galway game today a bit one-sided when discussing some of the decisions.

Kew (Galway) - Posts: 351 - 28/06/2026 23:00:26    2682714

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Replying To FoolsGold:  "People in the North don't the Rte licence. Gaa + is exclusively for GAA and should have decent standard."
Why are you worried about people in the North, you're in Cavan. BTW, BBC NI isn't free either.

Anyhow, shur you don't pay for GAA+... it shouldn't bother you.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 2288 - 30/06/2026 18:07:31    2683258

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Replying To Square_B:  "Why are you worried about people in the North, you're in Cavan. BTW, BBC NI isn't free either.

Anyhow, shur you don't pay for GAA+... it shouldn't bother you."
Am I not allowed an opinion? You implied rte is free for all.

Good that you have decent WiFi in laytrum to see GAA +.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2949 - 03/07/2026 15:18:37    2683950

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Replying To Square_B:  "RTE isn't free either."
Its not free but at €160 per year we get a lot of content, documentaries, +1, Radio etc and the GAA games we used to all watch. Rte is not the problem here... they are providing coverage of the world cup and we dont have to pay extra..Mmm. I remember as a child being told that the GAA meant grab all association...Well of course I didnt believe it. Isn't childhood innocence a marvelous thing

Dothesimplethingswell (Sligo) - Posts: 110 - 03/07/2026 15:40:47    2683961

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Replying To Square_B:  "RTE isn't free either."
Neither is BBC in the North with its better coverage of GAA yet you can access it.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2899 - 03/07/2026 15:48:22    2683962

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Neither is BBC in the North with its better coverage of GAA yet you can access it."
I have to pay to access it up in the Big Smoke, don't I know well. But shur look ye fellows want everything for free. Great wee world to live in.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 2288 - 03/07/2026 16:06:16    2683972

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