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Yes if you put the hours in like they are you will get better in both codes. They don't have huge numbers in Ballyhogue, only 22 I think at u14. They have good men over them though, lads prepared to give up plenty of their time, both to coach their young lads, and to attend the courses provided by Wexford Coaching and Games to improve their standard of coaching.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16888 - 20/08/2025 10:21:23 2632803 Link 0 |
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Is it like the way previously glynn/barntown , martins and shels got lot new families into the catchment area Now Castletown ballyhogue oilgate St annes rathgarogue cushionstown , ballinstrw gaels . Have the numbers in their catchment areas coincided with their improvement too . The only fear would be that traditional football teams previously like hurling dominant clubs . Discourage the participation in the opposite code . I do think some of above clubs would have the potential to rise to senior but is the desire there much like the desire fur football in for example st martins . The football teams in some of above clubs seem to have a higher level of fitness than a lot of hurling clubs is this why they are competing so well at their level . But their hurling ability may not make them as competitive as it could be if concentrated more on hurling . Long winded but in the long run is it good for wexford hurling if football clubs are becoming ma lot more prevalent in the hurling. Hoping these clubs at least give it equal attention god we all know we need new blood, physicality /fotness level competition for places and a fresh direction with new faces to enhance our prospects . And less egos ."]At underage those clubs are putting a massive effort into hurling. I don't believe for 1 second an u14 footballer is any fitter than an u14 hurler. Most u14s in the county play both in any case, and most to within a division at the same level. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16888 - 20/08/2025 10:24:01 2632806 Link 0 |
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Is it like the way previously glynn/barntown , martins and shels got lot new families into the catchment area Now Castletown ballyhogue oilgate St annes rathgarogue cushionstown , ballinstrw gaels . Have the numbers in their catchment areas coincided with their improvement too . The only fear would be that traditional football teams previously like hurling dominant clubs . Discourage the participation in the opposite code . I do think some of above clubs would have the potential to rise to senior but is the desire there much like the desire fur football in for example st martins . The football teams in some of above clubs seem to have a higher level of fitness than a lot of hurling clubs is this why they are competing so well at their level . But their hurling ability may not make them as competitive as it could be if concentrated more on hurling . Long winded but in the long run is it good for wexford hurling if football clubs are becoming ma lot more prevalent in the hurling. Hoping these clubs at least give it equal attention god we all know we need new blood, physicality /fotness level competition for places and a fresh direction with new faces to enhance our prospects . And less egos ."]I don't get what you're trying to say really? Why would it not be good for wexford hurling if more and more clubs who are promoting hurking and football equally are producing better hurlers than they previously have and as it seems in a lot for cases producing better hurlers than those who don't promote both equally?"]That's like whats been happeneing for years they concentrated mostly on the clubs dominant code . I think its great for hurling in the county long may it continue that more clubs are improving as hurling strongholds spread accross thecwhole county where it may not hsve be previously I Just fear the fact some of those clubs are football first and like oulart will drop other code readily only the opposite or reduce time invested . At underage county niw its hurling or football. Are we shooting ourselves in the foot not accommodating dual players until its absolutely necessary. If players choose football are they gone forever and lose out on years of quality coaching and games never to be able to catch up hurling wise but physically/S&C wise as good .or bettef , and vice versa Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 20/08/2025 11:41:36 2632813 Link 0 |
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Formertownie- our county development squads train at the same time, hurling and football. Saturday mornings mainly. If a lad does both for the county then he's only getting half the coaching in either. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16888 - 20/08/2025 12:08:06 2632817 Link 0 |
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Thats fair enough but they could alternate weeks . I m just fearing both codes are losing out . Especially if they are doing roughly same s&c programmes . Are nt all these boys training with club and school too at deal if they wish . I suppose I m really hinting that football missing out as 80% or more would choose hurling dev squads of 45 plus players than football dev squad . Even though realistically only 20 to 25 of them will make 1st team dev squad . Going forward maybe average of 2 might make iit to senior . But could make football day squad easier and get that chance to play at higher level /tempo/intensity which is good for their development at both codes .think back how many of leinster winning team of 2019 played underage county football first or as dual . Then tell me I m wrong if thry had choosen footbal dev squad only, would they have ever emerged as co senior hurlers . Its a question that cant be answered realistically but still a viable question . Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 20/08/2025 12:41:30 2632826 Link 0 |
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If you alternated the weeks to suit a few dual players the majority, the single code lads, would be getting only half the contacts they currently are. That would surely affect their standard.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16888 - 20/08/2025 13:44:58 2632838 Link 0 |
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As regards the choosing by players of which to play for the county, of our current u14s, and we are a dual club that would traditionally have leaned more towards Football, 4 went for Hurling trials, and only 1 went for Football trials. Noone went for both. Maybe that will change this year with the next group of u14s, but I'd still say there will be lads who will go for 1 or the other and not both. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16888 - 20/08/2025 13:48:41 2632839 Link 0 |
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We're any successful and in ur opinion could they have been capable in both or been better going for the other code instead . Reason I say this is if unsuccessful if they only tried out one code are they missing out on the opportunity to train or play at higher level where more resources than club for s&c and programmes are available.
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 20/08/2025 14:25:37 2632845 Link 0 |
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1 got on each. The other 3 lads who went for the hurling didn't want to play Football. 1 doesn't even play Football for us.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16888 - 20/08/2025 15:36:28 2632855 Link 0 |