Replying To Purpleandgold72: "Please, you simply cannot compare Tipp to ourselves this time last year and claim they 'were going nowhere'. Fair enough, their supporters were frustrated after a poor year but that is more a reflection of the standards they set for themselves. They had also just won an all Ireland minor title last year to add to all Ireland minor titles they won in 2022 and 2016. Plus they won u21 all Irelands in 2018 and 2019 and lost the u21 final last year. All this underage success was going to bear fruit at some stage and that happened last Sunday and will doubtless see them claim Liam McCarthy again in the coming years. Meanwhile, we have one Leinster minor title in 2019 having to go back to 1985 for the last one before that. Like I said, Tipp set high standards based on realistic expections every year. We are going nowhere because that is where we are at the moment and have been for long time. To expect anymore, is just unrealistic."
That's part of the problem though, no-one believes in the players so the players don't end up believing in themselves
When McGuinness first went into Donegal, he asked his players how many thought that Donegal could win an AI and only Michael Murphy and Karl Lacey put their hands up. Not even two years laters and they were AI champs
If we did the same, I'd say Chin would be the only one to put his hand up, I think a lot of the other players aren't emptying themselves and that's because they don't fully believe in themselves and they're never going to believe in themselves if they kept on getting told they're at nothing
Replying To Purpleandgold72: "Please, you simply cannot compare Tipp to ourselves this time last year and claim they 'were going nowhere'. Fair enough, their supporters were frustrated after a poor year but that is more a reflection of the standards they set for themselves. They had also just won an all Ireland minor title last year to add to all Ireland minor titles they won in 2022 and 2016. Plus they won u21 all Irelands in 2018 and 2019 and lost the u21 final last year. All this underage success was going to bear fruit at some stage and that happened last Sunday and will doubtless see them claim Liam McCarthy again in the coming years. Meanwhile, we have one Leinster minor title in 2019 having to go back to 1985 for the last one before that. Like I said, Tipp set high standards based on realistic expections every year. We are going nowhere because that is where we are at the moment and have been for long time. To expect anymore, is just unrealistic."
Brutal record in fairness. 2 Leinster minor titles since 1985.
Replying To Purpleandgold72: "Please, you simply cannot compare Tipp to ourselves this time last year and claim they 'were going nowhere'. Fair enough, their supporters were frustrated after a poor year but that is more a reflection of the standards they set for themselves. They had also just won an all Ireland minor title last year to add to all Ireland minor titles they won in 2022 and 2016. Plus they won u21 all Irelands in 2018 and 2019 and lost the u21 final last year. All this underage success was going to bear fruit at some stage and that happened last Sunday and will doubtless see them claim Liam McCarthy again in the coming years. Meanwhile, we have one Leinster minor title in 2019 having to go back to 1985 for the last one before that. Like I said, Tipp set high standards based on realistic expections every year. We are going nowhere because that is where we are at the moment and have been for long time. To expect anymore, is just unrealistic."
Tipp had a terrible record in the championship since winning it in 2019. It was far from only last year. Cahill had two poor seasons in a row. Sure there were positive signs and results at underage but senior level for them was desperate. Their support had deserted their team, plenty of their former players were commenting on it.
Id agree, we are where we deserve to be. No hard luck story this year.