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Replying To StoreysTash: "Got that, but colleges chase down the top players in every county to try to get them to go there to play Fitz.
The real reason is, like it or not, Wexford are not producing top hurlers at the rate of any Munster county and colleges are not hunting down our players like they were even 5 or 10 years ago.
But yet again, I know also Fitz is for universities but how the heck have Leinster GAA allowed SETU Carlow and DIT not to be in it when CIT, WIT LIT and GMIT are in it. They used to be because we played them. I guess its to do with university accreditation but yet again we are letting ourselves be rode roughshod over while the Munster counties and Galway have their colleges in it?
2 of the major colleges in the province not playing top level hurling, who makes this stuff up. So in Leinster all there is is UCD, DCU, Maynooth?" Yes. Trinity haven't hurled Fitzgibbon in a good while either. I did a bit of digging and apparently Carlow pulled out themselves. Noone knows why. Carlow and DIT were both flying in the Ryan Cup, were raging hot favourites, but the Gards won the final!
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Replying To StoreysTash: "Got that, but colleges chase down the top players in every county to try to get them to go there to play Fitz.
The real reason is, like it or not, Wexford are not producing top hurlers at the rate of any Munster county and colleges are not hunting down our players like they were even 5 or 10 years ago.
But yet again, I know also Fitz is for universities but how the heck have Leinster GAA allowed SETU Carlow and DIT not to be in it when CIT, WIT LIT and GMIT are in it. They used to be because we played them. I guess its to do with university accreditation but yet again we are letting ourselves be rode roughshod over while the Munster counties and Galway have their colleges in it?
2 of the major colleges in the province not playing top level hurling, who makes this stuff up. So in Leinster all there is is UCD, DCU, Maynooth?" Maybe things have changed significantly since my own student days (which admittedly was quite a while ago!), but can anyone explain to me how "colleges chase down the top players"? Are there ways round the whole CAO & Leaving Cert points system for sports scholarships?
Say UCC identify the best hurler in the country doing his Leaving Cert this year. They want him to go there and play Fitzgibbon Cup for them. But he's not exactly a gifted scholar, and he gets nowhere near the points needed for any course there that interests him. Are they allowed to springboard him into such a course anyway?
And if they are - if he's academically so far behind everybody else on that course, surely he'd struggle there, and possibly face failing exams and having to drop out after a year or two anyway?
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Replying To Pikeman96: "Maybe things have changed significantly since my own student days (which admittedly was quite a while ago!), but can anyone explain to me how "colleges chase down the top players"? Are there ways round the whole CAO & Leaving Cert points system for sports scholarships?
Say UCC identify the best hurler in the country doing his Leaving Cert this year. They want him to go there and play Fitzgibbon Cup for them. But he's not exactly a gifted scholar, and he gets nowhere near the points needed for any course there that interests him. Are they allowed to springboard him into such a course anyway?
And if they are - if he's academically so far behind everybody else on that course, surely he'd struggle there, and possibly face failing exams and having to drop out after a year or two anyway?" The only Wexford hurler that I heard was on a hurling scholarship was Sam Audsley at UCD. Really not sure how it works, but I might be able to find out 2moro night as I will likely be talking to someone who was at college with him. That's if what I was told was true in the 1st place.
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Replying To Pikeman96: "Maybe things have changed significantly since my own student days (which admittedly was quite a while ago!), but can anyone explain to me how "colleges chase down the top players"? Are there ways round the whole CAO & Leaving Cert points system for sports scholarships?
Say UCC identify the best hurler in the country doing his Leaving Cert this year. They want him to go there and play Fitzgibbon Cup for them. But he's not exactly a gifted scholar, and he gets nowhere near the points needed for any course there that interests him. Are they allowed to springboard him into such a course anyway?
And if they are - if he's academically so far behind everybody else on that course, surely he'd struggle there, and possibly face failing exams and having to drop out after a year or two anyway?" What has changed is the amount of courses available and the similarity of them between them at different Universities.
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Look how hard the Cork and Limerick forwards are working to stop easy ball coming out. That's where defending starts. Not a sweeper and backing off like Wexford use and allowing good quality ball to be delivered into inter County forwards. Think back to the Dublin game. If we were man on mam and working like dogs our backs wouldn't be under bombardment and constant pressure.
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Replying To WEX98: "Look how hard the Cork and Limerick forwards are working to stop easy ball coming out. That's where defending starts. Not a sweeper and backing off like Wexford use and allowing good quality ball to be delivered into inter County forwards. Think back to the Dublin game. If we were man on mam and working like dogs our backs wouldn't be under bombardment and constant pressure." We haven't played a sweeper in years
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Replying To Viking66: "We haven't played a sweeper in years" Call it what you want. Either way, it's passive, it's soft, and it's killing us. Cork and Limerick hunt in packs. We wave lads through like a nightclub bouncer on his phone.
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Replying To WEX98: "Call it what you want. Either way, it's passive, it's soft, and it's killing us. Cork and Limerick hunt in packs. We wave lads through like a nightclub bouncer on his phone." Not arguing with that. We are way too passive ok.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16311 - 07/06/2025 22:33:42
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Think Kildare are a good example of how to build a good hurling team
Not disputing that they're doing good underage work but they haven't really been in a heap of Leinster QFs at Minor/U20 level, their best U20 side beat one of our worst U20 sides by a point (And they lost by a decent score to an Offaly side who wouldn't have been in the same class as the last few Offaly U20 sides)
But this Kildare team manhandled Laois, they played at a much higher intensity than Laois, just have to look at the turnover they made in their full-forward line off the Laois puck-out for the first goal
Intensity and work-rate set the floor of your team, high intensity puts you in a good position and means that the opposition will really have to go to the well to beat you, we haven't been doing that really since Davy left
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Good wins for both our u14 teams against Clare yesterday.
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Replying To wexford2012: "The research done into Clare players over a 30 year period who plays u14 Tony Forristal should tell us something. On average one per year made the leap but surely the most relevant to this conversation is that 25% of them NEVER players senior for their club. Making predictions about young lads is difficult and I think that a focus on player retention would yield results, if we retained more young lads playing with their clubs it is bound to have a positive impact. Now there is a chicken and egg, counties like Kerry and Kilkenny I suspect retain players at a far higher level than we do due to social cache and a more tangible belief that they can achieve success with the county team, without this increasing retention is tricky but we come back to enjoyment. Enjoyment is not necessarily the something as fun. The feeling of enjoyment comes when a challenge matches your ability is known as "flow" in positive psychology. This is connected to things like ensuring teams are correctly graded, big beatings will have a detrimental impact, so its not all on coaches shoulders.
https://www.irishnews.com/gaa/the-only-guarantee-around-player-development-is-that-there-are-no-guarantees-FBU43CBAIFAUTNBTVNZDY6G2UQ/
I do think Doyler is right in one regard, that coaches and clubs should have high expectations, the Pygmalion Effect is where high expectations from others can boost performance by increasing confidence, effort, and opportunities for growth. For example, a teacher who believes a student is gifted may provide more challenging material, leading to better outcomes likewise is probably true of coaches. High but realistic expectations can motivate players to train harder, focus on skill development, and persevere through setbacks. Coaches who believe in an players potential often provide more feedback, individualised training, and opportunities to compete, fostering growth." Just further on your point of players from u14 Tony Forristal and never playing senior for their club.
Here is the Tony Forristal winning team from 2006
Kyle byrne Rathnure- didn't play any other intercounty. Odd year here and there with the club but mostly stopped hurling by 21.
Michael Curtis Adamstown-played a bit of junior hurling last few years but think retired now
Tadgh furlong- obviously went off to play rugby instead
Nicholas Murphy Harriers- Quit hurling around minor. Didn't play with any other county team.
Denis Jones Ballyfad- played football at senior with Kilanerin but hasn't played hurling in a number of years and now retired.
James Gordon Shels- hampered by a lot of injuries and never got to reach potential. Played bit of junior but don't think played senior with shels.
Dee O Keefe St Annes- great servant to Wexford played county at every age and retired last year. Won player of the tournament.
Cathal Clince Duffry Rovers- played minor and U21 for Wexford. Quit hurling 2 or 3 years ago.
Conor Levingstone Askamore- Played U16 county but nothing after that. Played club up to the last few years.
Conor Goff Oulart- played county up to U21. Played senior club and won few titles with oulart. Still playing senior with oulart.
Brian O Neill Rathgarouge- On panel of county teams up to U21. Still playing with club
Fergal Hynes Shels- played up to minor with county but essentially quit hurling in early 20s.
Niall Murphy Crossabeg- played up to U21 with county. Remebered for that goal against Kilkenny in 2013. Played with club up to a few years ago.
Eoin Whitmore St Fintans- played U16 county but didn't play county past this. Don't know much more about him as haven't seen or heard of him in a number of years
Mick O Down Oulart- played county U16 and played with the club mostly as sub keeper to Ben O Connor during Oulart Golden Years. Played junior up to few years ago.
Shay Delaney St Martins- Played county U16 but no other county teams after this. Played bit of junior with the Martins. Think he moved out of Wexford number of years ago.
Jack Kelly Rapparees- Played county all way up along to U21. Still playing Senior for Rapps and part of county winning team.
Syl Barron Rathnure- played county up to minor. Played few games here and there with Rathnure seniors. Now Sub Goalie to Senior team and playing Junior in Goal.
Aidan Cash Shels- played county up to U21. Played with Shels senior up to few seasons ago and now playing Junior hurling with Shels
Lee Deveraux Rosslare- Didn't play county with any other team. Still plays Club with Rosslare in Intermediate A.
Jack Hobbs Ballygarret- played county to U21 lined out at wing back in 2013. Played club up to few years ago and now manager of Ballygarret.
Declan Foley- didn't play county with any other team. Played bit of senior with Rathnure. Now playing Junior with the club
Harry Byrne Ballygarret- didn't play county with any other team. Still plays with the club in inter A.
We had one hurler from this team, a team who also won the U16 all Ireland 2 years later to make it to the Wexford senior panel. Compare this to the Waterford team they beat in the final had Darragh Fives, Jake Dillon, Paudie Prendergast, Stephen O Keefe, Paudie O Mahony, Gavin O Brien, Stephen Roche who played Senior with Waterford. Galway who Wexford beat in semi final had Daithi Burke, and Kilkenny had Cillian Buckley and John Power play senior for Kilkenny.
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Replying To camánouttathat: "Just further on your point of players from u14 Tony Forristal and never playing senior for their club.
Here is the Tony Forristal winning team from 2006
Kyle byrne Rathnure- didn't play any other intercounty. Odd year here and there with the club but mostly stopped hurling by 21.
Michael Curtis Adamstown-played a bit of junior hurling last few years but think retired now
Tadgh furlong- obviously went off to play rugby instead
Nicholas Murphy Harriers- Quit hurling around minor. Didn't play with any other county team.
Denis Jones Ballyfad- played football at senior with Kilanerin but hasn't played hurling in a number of years and now retired.
James Gordon Shels- hampered by a lot of injuries and never got to reach potential. Played bit of junior but don't think played senior with shels.
Dee O Keefe St Annes- great servant to Wexford played county at every age and retired last year. Won player of the tournament.
Cathal Clince Duffry Rovers- played minor and U21 for Wexford. Quit hurling 2 or 3 years ago.
Conor Levingstone Askamore- Played U16 county but nothing after that. Played club up to the last few years.
Conor Goff Oulart- played county up to U21. Played senior club and won few titles with oulart. Still playing senior with oulart.
Brian O Neill Rathgarouge- On panel of county teams up to U21. Still playing with club
Fergal Hynes Shels- played up to minor with county but essentially quit hurling in early 20s.
Niall Murphy Crossabeg- played up to U21 with county. Remebered for that goal against Kilkenny in 2013. Played with club up to a few years ago.
Eoin Whitmore St Fintans- played U16 county but didn't play county past this. Don't know much more about him as haven't seen or heard of him in a number of years
Mick O Down Oulart- played county U16 and played with the club mostly as sub keeper to Ben O Connor during Oulart Golden Years. Played junior up to few years ago.
Shay Delaney St Martins- Played county U16 but no other county teams after this. Played bit of junior with the Martins. Think he moved out of Wexford number of years ago.
Jack Kelly Rapparees- Played county all way up along to U21. Still playing Senior for Rapps and part of county winning team.
Syl Barron Rathnure- played county up to minor. Played few games here and there with Rathnure seniors. Now Sub Goalie to Senior team and playing Junior in Goal.
Aidan Cash Shels- played county up to U21. Played with Shels senior up to few seasons ago and now playing Junior hurling with Shels
Lee Deveraux Rosslare- Didn't play county with any other team. Still plays Club with Rosslare in Intermediate A.
Jack Hobbs Ballygarret- played county to U21 lined out at wing back in 2013. Played club up to few years ago and now manager of Ballygarret.
Declan Foley- didn't play county with any other team. Played bit of senior with Rathnure. Now playing Junior with the club
Harry Byrne Ballygarret- didn't play county with any other team. Still plays with the club in inter A.
We had one hurler from this team, a team who also won the U16 all Ireland 2 years later to make it to the Wexford senior panel. Compare this to the Waterford team they beat in the final had Darragh Fives, Jake Dillon, Paudie Prendergast, Stephen O Keefe, Paudie O Mahony, Gavin O Brien, Stephen Roche who played Senior with Waterford. Galway who Wexford beat in semi final had Daithi Burke, and Kilkenny had Cillian Buckley and John Power play senior for Kilkenny." Very interesting and the outcomes for this team pretty much align with the Clare experience of 1 players per team making it to senior county. Its a pitiful return and as the 'ask' gets more to play senior intercounty this could rise if nothing is done.
I've suggested before that if we did nothing other than put a plan in place to address player retention we could see radical results. If we could shift to a progression average of 2 from this age group we'd substantially increase our player pool. This could mean selecting for not just playing ability but psychological traits - grit etc. I think I've heard 10+ years ago Liam Griffin making these same arguments.
I would guess Waterford had an above average return from that team and if we looked at other Waterford cohorts they would not be getting anything near 7 players. This happens, the Cork 1997 u21 team produced a raft of senior players.
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Replying To camánouttathat: "Just further on your point of players from u14 Tony Forristal and never playing senior for their club.
Here is the Tony Forristal winning team from 2006
Kyle byrne Rathnure- didn't play any other intercounty. Odd year here and there with the club but mostly stopped hurling by 21.
Michael Curtis Adamstown-played a bit of junior hurling last few years but think retired now
Tadgh furlong- obviously went off to play rugby instead
Nicholas Murphy Harriers- Quit hurling around minor. Didn't play with any other county team.
Denis Jones Ballyfad- played football at senior with Kilanerin but hasn't played hurling in a number of years and now retired.
James Gordon Shels- hampered by a lot of injuries and never got to reach potential. Played bit of junior but don't think played senior with shels.
Dee O Keefe St Annes- great servant to Wexford played county at every age and retired last year. Won player of the tournament.
Cathal Clince Duffry Rovers- played minor and U21 for Wexford. Quit hurling 2 or 3 years ago.
Conor Levingstone Askamore- Played U16 county but nothing after that. Played club up to the last few years.
Conor Goff Oulart- played county up to U21. Played senior club and won few titles with oulart. Still playing senior with oulart.
Brian O Neill Rathgarouge- On panel of county teams up to U21. Still playing with club
Fergal Hynes Shels- played up to minor with county but essentially quit hurling in early 20s.
Niall Murphy Crossabeg- played up to U21 with county. Remebered for that goal against Kilkenny in 2013. Played with club up to a few years ago.
Eoin Whitmore St Fintans- played U16 county but didn't play county past this. Don't know much more about him as haven't seen or heard of him in a number of years
Mick O Down Oulart- played county U16 and played with the club mostly as sub keeper to Ben O Connor during Oulart Golden Years. Played junior up to few years ago.
Shay Delaney St Martins- Played county U16 but no other county teams after this. Played bit of junior with the Martins. Think he moved out of Wexford number of years ago.
Jack Kelly Rapparees- Played county all way up along to U21. Still playing Senior for Rapps and part of county winning team.
Syl Barron Rathnure- played county up to minor. Played few games here and there with Rathnure seniors. Now Sub Goalie to Senior team and playing Junior in Goal.
Aidan Cash Shels- played county up to U21. Played with Shels senior up to few seasons ago and now playing Junior hurling with Shels
Lee Deveraux Rosslare- Didn't play county with any other team. Still plays Club with Rosslare in Intermediate A.
Jack Hobbs Ballygarret- played county to U21 lined out at wing back in 2013. Played club up to few years ago and now manager of Ballygarret.
Declan Foley- didn't play county with any other team. Played bit of senior with Rathnure. Now playing Junior with the club
Harry Byrne Ballygarret- didn't play county with any other team. Still plays with the club in inter A.
We had one hurler from this team, a team who also won the U16 all Ireland 2 years later to make it to the Wexford senior panel. Compare this to the Waterford team they beat in the final had Darragh Fives, Jake Dillon, Paudie Prendergast, Stephen O Keefe, Paudie O Mahony, Gavin O Brien, Stephen Roche who played Senior with Waterford. Galway who Wexford beat in semi final had Daithi Burke, and Kilkenny had Cillian Buckley and John Power play senior for Kilkenny." Seeing it laid out like that it's actually surprising how many of that team played u21 intercounty. I thought it would be less tbh.
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Replying To camánouttathat: "Just further on your point of players from u14 Tony Forristal and never playing senior for their club.
Here is the Tony Forristal winning team from 2006
Kyle byrne Rathnure- didn't play any other intercounty. Odd year here and there with the club but mostly stopped hurling by 21.
Michael Curtis Adamstown-played a bit of junior hurling last few years but think retired now
Tadgh furlong- obviously went off to play rugby instead
Nicholas Murphy Harriers- Quit hurling around minor. Didn't play with any other county team.
Denis Jones Ballyfad- played football at senior with Kilanerin but hasn't played hurling in a number of years and now retired.
James Gordon Shels- hampered by a lot of injuries and never got to reach potential. Played bit of junior but don't think played senior with shels.
Dee O Keefe St Annes- great servant to Wexford played county at every age and retired last year. Won player of the tournament.
Cathal Clince Duffry Rovers- played minor and U21 for Wexford. Quit hurling 2 or 3 years ago.
Conor Levingstone Askamore- Played U16 county but nothing after that. Played club up to the last few years.
Conor Goff Oulart- played county up to U21. Played senior club and won few titles with oulart. Still playing senior with oulart.
Brian O Neill Rathgarouge- On panel of county teams up to U21. Still playing with club
Fergal Hynes Shels- played up to minor with county but essentially quit hurling in early 20s.
Niall Murphy Crossabeg- played up to U21 with county. Remebered for that goal against Kilkenny in 2013. Played with club up to a few years ago.
Eoin Whitmore St Fintans- played U16 county but didn't play county past this. Don't know much more about him as haven't seen or heard of him in a number of years
Mick O Down Oulart- played county U16 and played with the club mostly as sub keeper to Ben O Connor during Oulart Golden Years. Played junior up to few years ago.
Shay Delaney St Martins- Played county U16 but no other county teams after this. Played bit of junior with the Martins. Think he moved out of Wexford number of years ago.
Jack Kelly Rapparees- Played county all way up along to U21. Still playing Senior for Rapps and part of county winning team.
Syl Barron Rathnure- played county up to minor. Played few games here and there with Rathnure seniors. Now Sub Goalie to Senior team and playing Junior in Goal.
Aidan Cash Shels- played county up to U21. Played with Shels senior up to few seasons ago and now playing Junior hurling with Shels
Lee Deveraux Rosslare- Didn't play county with any other team. Still plays Club with Rosslare in Intermediate A.
Jack Hobbs Ballygarret- played county to U21 lined out at wing back in 2013. Played club up to few years ago and now manager of Ballygarret.
Declan Foley- didn't play county with any other team. Played bit of senior with Rathnure. Now playing Junior with the club
Harry Byrne Ballygarret- didn't play county with any other team. Still plays with the club in inter A.
We had one hurler from this team, a team who also won the U16 all Ireland 2 years later to make it to the Wexford senior panel. Compare this to the Waterford team they beat in the final had Darragh Fives, Jake Dillon, Paudie Prendergast, Stephen O Keefe, Paudie O Mahony, Gavin O Brien, Stephen Roche who played Senior with Waterford. Galway who Wexford beat in semi final had Daithi Burke, and Kilkenny had Cillian Buckley and John Power play senior for Kilkenny." Added Lee Chin along the way tbf
I always say you need at least two Senior hurlers from each crop, we got two from that age group with Dee and Chin
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I know somebody involved in a top Dublin college from GAA perspective. Its not as simple as they can bypass the CAO system, but its more they get in touch with the top minor player and explain what they have going on from a GAA perspective and its sort of left like "well if you apply you've got a very good chance of getting a sports scholarship, set you up with campus accommodation, etc, etc".
A sales pitch I guess.
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Replying To wexford2012: "Very interesting and the outcomes for this team pretty much align with the Clare experience of 1 players per team making it to senior county. Its a pitiful return and as the 'ask' gets more to play senior intercounty this could rise if nothing is done.
I've suggested before that if we did nothing other than put a plan in place to address player retention we could see radical results. If we could shift to a progression average of 2 from this age group we'd substantially increase our player pool. This could mean selecting for not just playing ability but psychological traits - grit etc. I think I've heard 10+ years ago Liam Griffin making these same arguments.
I would guess Waterford had an above average return from that team and if we looked at other Waterford cohorts they would not be getting anything near 7 players. This happens, the Cork 1997 u21 team produced a raft of senior players." That's right on that Cork team. Her canning said it during commentary on the 03 semi final they'd played Wexford in that semi final and they converted 8 vs our 2
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Replying To camánouttathat: "Just further on your point of players from u14 Tony Forristal and never playing senior for their club.
Here is the Tony Forristal winning team from 2006
Kyle byrne Rathnure- didn't play any other intercounty. Odd year here and there with the club but mostly stopped hurling by 21.
Michael Curtis Adamstown-played a bit of junior hurling last few years but think retired now
Tadgh furlong- obviously went off to play rugby instead
Nicholas Murphy Harriers- Quit hurling around minor. Didn't play with any other county team.
Denis Jones Ballyfad- played football at senior with Kilanerin but hasn't played hurling in a number of years and now retired.
James Gordon Shels- hampered by a lot of injuries and never got to reach potential. Played bit of junior but don't think played senior with shels.
Dee O Keefe St Annes- great servant to Wexford played county at every age and retired last year. Won player of the tournament.
Cathal Clince Duffry Rovers- played minor and U21 for Wexford. Quit hurling 2 or 3 years ago.
Conor Levingstone Askamore- Played U16 county but nothing after that. Played club up to the last few years.
Conor Goff Oulart- played county up to U21. Played senior club and won few titles with oulart. Still playing senior with oulart.
Brian O Neill Rathgarouge- On panel of county teams up to U21. Still playing with club
Fergal Hynes Shels- played up to minor with county but essentially quit hurling in early 20s.
Niall Murphy Crossabeg- played up to U21 with county. Remebered for that goal against Kilkenny in 2013. Played with club up to a few years ago.
Eoin Whitmore St Fintans- played U16 county but didn't play county past this. Don't know much more about him as haven't seen or heard of him in a number of years
Mick O Down Oulart- played county U16 and played with the club mostly as sub keeper to Ben O Connor during Oulart Golden Years. Played junior up to few years ago.
Shay Delaney St Martins- Played county U16 but no other county teams after this. Played bit of junior with the Martins. Think he moved out of Wexford number of years ago.
Jack Kelly Rapparees- Played county all way up along to U21. Still playing Senior for Rapps and part of county winning team.
Syl Barron Rathnure- played county up to minor. Played few games here and there with Rathnure seniors. Now Sub Goalie to Senior team and playing Junior in Goal.
Aidan Cash Shels- played county up to U21. Played with Shels senior up to few seasons ago and now playing Junior hurling with Shels
Lee Deveraux Rosslare- Didn't play county with any other team. Still plays Club with Rosslare in Intermediate A.
Jack Hobbs Ballygarret- played county to U21 lined out at wing back in 2013. Played club up to few years ago and now manager of Ballygarret.
Declan Foley- didn't play county with any other team. Played bit of senior with Rathnure. Now playing Junior with the club
Harry Byrne Ballygarret- didn't play county with any other team. Still plays with the club in inter A.
We had one hurler from this team, a team who also won the U16 all Ireland 2 years later to make it to the Wexford senior panel. Compare this to the Waterford team they beat in the final had Darragh Fives, Jake Dillon, Paudie Prendergast, Stephen O Keefe, Paudie O Mahony, Gavin O Brien, Stephen Roche who played Senior with Waterford. Galway who Wexford beat in semi final had Daithi Burke, and Kilkenny had Cillian Buckley and John Power play senior for Kilkenny." https://wexfordgaa.ie/wexford-u-14-hurling-tony-forristal-sony-walsh-panels/
There's the 2014 u14 panel, set out in A and B teams.
Obviously these lads will only be 24ish now, so some might yet develop into Senior intercounty regulars, but a few have been part of Senior panels already, and that wasn't a particularly successful group at minor/u20. Some are already good 1st team hurlers at club level also.
Interesting to see Paudie Hughes on it, think he's our best footballer currently.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16311 - 09/06/2025 14:11:21
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "I know somebody involved in a top Dublin college from GAA perspective. Its not as simple as they can bypass the CAO system, but its more they get in touch with the top minor player and explain what they have going on from a GAA perspective and its sort of left like "well if you apply you've got a very good chance of getting a sports scholarship, set you up with campus accommodation, etc, etc".
A sales pitch I guess." Ah right. So a guy who's hovering between course A in UCD and course B in maybe DCU (and who'd be likely to achieve the points for both) could be swayed if the GAA folks from UCD come along first and tell him those things?
But the player would still have to get the required Leaving Cert results to earn those CAO points. It's not that the college would have the discretion or ability to directly award a place itself.
That makes sense. Thanks.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2948 - 09/06/2025 15:34:45
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Replying To Viking66: "Good wins for both our u14 teams against Clare yesterday." From what I hear There is very good work going in at u14, 15, 16s . Where in your opinion are we falling behind when we get to u17?
Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 653 - 09/06/2025 16:35:50
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Replying To Afinestick96: "From what I hear There is very good work going in at u14, 15, 16s . Where in your opinion are we falling behind when we get to u17?" This year Kilkenny have an exceptionally good group. Wouldn't surprise me if they won it out. We were missing players in both games against Galway, the first we were missing the St Peters lads who were on a school tour, the second we were missing some of our best players with injury, Sean O Brien and Rhys Wickham especially. We won our other 2 games in Leinster, we beat Dublins minors by 9 points, which is our biggest win against them in many years, and we beat a good Laois minor team in the QF who were fresh off of beating Offalys minors by 30 odd points.
The Limerick game we gave them way too much space around the middle 3rd in the 1st half which was very disappointing. And then we went for goals way too early as a result of being so far down, turning down enough easy points to have close the gap to 2 or 3 points coming into injury time at which point a goal wouldve tied it for us. We were actually well on top in the last quarter. Probably the 2nd half overall. Injuries to key players also didnt help. While Sean O Brien started he wouldn't have if it hadn't of been a knockout game, and Rhys Wickham wasn't fit to start either. Devereux one of our best backs was missing with injury also.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16311 - 09/06/2025 16:57:21
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