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County Teams Expenditure At €55M Vs Amateur Status?

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Not sure if the new GAA Amateur Status Committee was discussed previously, so here goes.
Jarlath Burns setup an Amateur Status Committee to review how the GAA can best preserve it's Amateur Status in this inter county world of high performance and high expenditure.

The GAA believe Inter county teams expenditure for 2023 was estimated to be approx €55m! This new committee is planning to report back with proposals at the end of 2024 on how best to maintain the inter county team Amateur Status.

Suggestions & sound bites reported in the media include:

- A new county team licensing system, each county will need a licence to compete, licence approval based on compliance with audit & governance criteria.

- A financial ceiling on inter county team expenditure & tackling under table payments.

- A new Player welfare system, a closed off season, possible limit on cardiovascular loads & training loads via GPS.

- Examining the current requirements on an Amateur player in full time employment trying to maintain the additional time demanded of them to behave like a Professional player in this high performance environment.

The_viewer (Donegal) - Posts: 17 - 12/07/2024 08:06:37    2558482

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Replying To The_viewer:  "Not sure if the new GAA Amateur Status Committee was discussed previously, so here goes.
Jarlath Burns setup an Amateur Status Committee to review how the GAA can best preserve it's Amateur Status in this inter county world of high performance and high expenditure.

The GAA believe Inter county teams expenditure for 2023 was estimated to be approx €55m! This new committee is planning to report back with proposals at the end of 2024 on how best to maintain the inter county team Amateur Status.

Suggestions & sound bites reported in the media include:

- A new county team licensing system, each county will need a licence to compete, licence approval based on compliance with audit & governance criteria.

- A financial ceiling on inter county team expenditure & tackling under table payments.

- A new Player welfare system, a closed off season, possible limit on cardiovascular loads & training loads via GPS.

- Examining the current requirements on an Amateur player in full time employment trying to maintain the additional time demanded of them to behave like a Professional player in this high performance environment."
Dont forget Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy......

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2474 - 12/07/2024 10:44:22    2558509

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I wonder would more players be lost to other sports if the GAA at club and county teams had not upped their level of forgive the word "professionalism ". You can't unwind the clock. What you can do is have a CAP to level the playing field. It is not okay to have one team spending 50M and another only having 20M with both competing in the same competition.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3116 - 12/07/2024 17:06:06    2558598

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Replying To The_viewer:  "Not sure if the new GAA Amateur Status Committee was discussed previously, so here goes.
Jarlath Burns setup an Amateur Status Committee to review how the GAA can best preserve it's Amateur Status in this inter county world of high performance and high expenditure.

The GAA believe Inter county teams expenditure for 2023 was estimated to be approx €55m! This new committee is planning to report back with proposals at the end of 2024 on how best to maintain the inter county team Amateur Status.

Suggestions & sound bites reported in the media include:

- A new county team licensing system, each county will need a licence to compete, licence approval based on compliance with audit & governance criteria.

- A financial ceiling on inter county team expenditure & tackling under table payments.

- A new Player welfare system, a closed off season, possible limit on cardiovascular loads & training loads via GPS.

- Examining the current requirements on an Amateur player in full time employment trying to maintain the additional time demanded of them to behave like a Professional player in this high performance environment."
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Too much talk about having a financial ceiling and not enough talk about teams near the basement with less opportunities if sponsorship and endorsements.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8120 - 12/07/2024 17:32:56    2558606

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Replying To Canuck:  "I wonder would more players be lost to other sports if the GAA at club and county teams had not upped their level of forgive the word "professionalism ". You can't unwind the clock. What you can do is have a CAP to level the playing field. It is not okay to have one team spending 50M and another only having 20M with both competing in the same competition."
There is a lot more to these inbalances that an arbitary cap. Some counties have to field two full senior squads, hurling and football, while others only have one. Its not a level playing field on do many levels.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4955 - 13/07/2024 20:01:15    2558753

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Replying To arock:  "There is a lot more to these inbalances that an arbitary cap. Some counties have to field two full senior squads, hurling and football, while others only have one. Its not a level playing field on do many levels."
You can't total from two different sports. If the new sum is 50M then the CAP should be for teams competing in the McCarthy Cup. A CAP also for the teams in the McDonagh Cup and promotion to the McCarthy Cup would put them up to the same as the other teams. Something similar for the Sam Maguire. It is unacceptable to have a county with access to money for paying 55 backroom staff competing in the same competition with a county who has only funding to pay 15. I don't care where the money is coming. Neither do I believe that money alone makes success but it sure as hell is a big stepping stone.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3116 - 13/07/2024 23:26:48    2558852

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The GAA Amateur Status Review Committee (ASRC) established by Jarlath Burns in March 2024, have initiated a major survey of members as part of its review of the GAA Amateur status, I started this thread last year, so I wanted to post the link below for the survey.

Personally, I believe it's like having the right to vote and not using it. By that I mean, if you are concerned about the current Amateur status and are a GAA member, I believe members should make use of the survey to make your views known to the GAA.

Some folks will think it's a complete waste of time, but I would like to think members views will be taking on board, when decisions are being made on the future of the GAA around the Amateur status, which looks like changing from an ethos lead basis to enforceable rules lead basis.

https://www.gaa.ie/article/amateur-status-review-committee-survey-issued

The_viewer (Donegal) - Posts: 17 - 25/06/2025 22:57:03    2621110

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Replying To Canuck:  "You can't total from two different sports. If the new sum is 50M then the CAP should be for teams competing in the McCarthy Cup. A CAP also for the teams in the McDonagh Cup and promotion to the McCarthy Cup would put them up to the same as the other teams. Something similar for the Sam Maguire. It is unacceptable to have a county with access to money for paying 55 backroom staff competing in the same competition with a county who has only funding to pay 15. I don't care where the money is coming. Neither do I believe that money alone makes success but it sure as hell is a big stepping stone."
You missed the prime time report on Parnells then?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16416 - 26/06/2025 13:12:48    2621206

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It's not unacceptable at all for counties with say 55 back room members competing with back room teams of 15. It's simple to just put max costs on what you spend and up to you to spend up to that limit.
If you want the sport to keep progressing and standards to improve then cutting back on the supports players receive isn't the right way forward.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3786 - 26/06/2025 13:33:26    2621218

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Replying To The_viewer:  "Not sure if the new GAA Amateur Status Committee was discussed previously, so here goes.
Jarlath Burns setup an Amateur Status Committee to review how the GAA can best preserve it's Amateur Status in this inter county world of high performance and high expenditure.

The GAA believe Inter county teams expenditure for 2023 was estimated to be approx €55m! This new committee is planning to report back with proposals at the end of 2024 on how best to maintain the inter county team Amateur Status.

Suggestions & sound bites reported in the media include:

- A new county team licensing system, each county will need a licence to compete, licence approval based on compliance with audit & governance criteria.

- A financial ceiling on inter county team expenditure & tackling under table payments.

- A new Player welfare system, a closed off season, possible limit on cardiovascular loads & training loads via GPS.

- Examining the current requirements on an Amateur player in full time employment trying to maintain the additional time demanded of them to behave like a Professional player in this high performance environment."
Licences for teams to compete?! That is really going down the road of professional sports

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 416 - 26/06/2025 13:43:10    2621226

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Definitely needs to be caps on expenditure.
Dublin spend the same as Kerry or Mayo.
Half the Mayo team are paid mileage as they live away from home. No one in Dublin lives away from home so there is no mileage for them. How do they spend the same money? Bigger backroom team so more payments to coaches etc.

Both Mayo and DUblin spend significantly more money than Cavan, Lietrim etc - despite their seasons only being a few weeks longer these days.

All Gate receipts should be centrally controlled and paid out for mileage only.

All sponsorship should be pooled - i.e Dublin and Lietrim pared for a Sponsor - money shared equally for use on both county teams

Counties then do their own fundraising for internal expenses (running club championships, underage coaching etc)

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1479 - 27/06/2025 19:29:03    2621627

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