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Although, that Galway (4) v Westmeath (0) is a "dead, dead, DEAD rubber" and could be used as an argument for having 3 advance. Then, we are back to your other 'wonderful' idea - with 3 of 4 advancing, have the Rd 1 winners play in "Rd 3" instead, with the winner getting the sole QF berth and the other two teams likely in a 'KO tie' for a Prelim QF berth, with the loser out. But yes - Munster SHC with 3 of 5 almost seems like the sweet spot in having both enough incentive and jeopardy in equal measure. Imagine an 'Ulster top 5' (Derry, Donegal, Armagh, Monaghan & Down) and a 'Connacht 5' (Mayo, Galway, Roscommon, Dublin & Kerry) with 3 advancing from each - WOW ! As....for the league....they could then play the 'other' group only. So, over the season, each team plays a 9-game round robin, with two of 10 down (but with two coming up, both could be Ulster, or neither, hmmm). Have the next "two fives" in tier 2 - with again, 4 group games in AIC and 5 inter-group in the league - again, two of 10 up, two of 10 down. Tier 3, with "two sixes" could play a similar 4+5 schedule (to keep the same length), if teams avoid one opponent in each competition. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2593 - 26/04/2024 02:09:21 2540695 Link 1 |
I don't really think the Women's UEFA qualifiers are a great structure. The play off aspect of them at least anyway. It makes sense for them given there's varying levels of maturity of the sport across regions and they want to not be exclusionary of the lower level teams but it would be a waste of time to put them up against the established teams. There's an element of that in the GAA but I don't know, I don't really think it's the sort of level of competitive integrity that you'd want from top level sport. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 26/04/2024 12:46:28 2540744 Link 0 |
Inter-tier: As it is, Tier 1 & Tier 2 AIC group stage are a mix of league div 2 & 3 teams. KO Cutoff: if set at mid-table for 'own tier' AIC, I think that should keep most teams incentivised, even over 12 games. Prior/Over-engineered: Yeah, maybe - could streamline a bit - say, bottom half 1A/1B & top two 2A/2B to a 12-team Tier 2 field - SF4 to next tier 1, 8 others drop down to join 3rd/4th/5th 2A/2B in 14-team Tier 3 - SF4 to next tier 1. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2593 - 26/04/2024 19:27:46 2540809 Link 0 |
People like the league because it pits teams at a similar level against eachother but there is also a demand for knockout games. I do think the LGFA have it right by having each competition be its own thing. Groups of 4 would be fine if you had a relegation built in as it would add jeopardy. You can seed based on league performance. Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 739 - 26/04/2024 21:36:23 2540815 Link 0 |
Are you saying the 4 Tailteann group winners could go up and replace the 4 Sam group bottom teams for the following year's AIC. Interesting - then the league is separate, used for AIC seeding only. I'd say instead of having a separate league of 7 games, teams could play 2 of 3 other groups in their own tier as well instead - so 11 games over a combined league/AIC season - leading into the 12-team AIC KO (or less) in each tier. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2593 - 27/04/2024 02:47:14 2540832 Link 0 |