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There looked to be less than 5k at Louth v Kildare today. As I've said previously, people in Kildare have totally tuned out of gaa. Vast majority would have far more interest in today's premier league games than what happened in Croke park.

11jm11 (Kildare) - Posts: 366 - 28/04/2024 18:18:24    2541226

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Less than 10k at the stadium according to the announcer but I was there and thought it looked more tbh.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1751 - 28/04/2024 18:24:28    2541229

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Replying To OpenStand:  "Big crowds at Munster Hurling round Robin games today
Cork v Clare 36,814
Limerick v Tipperary 33,475"
The Munster Council was predicting 70k in total.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1462 - 28/04/2024 18:29:41    2541231

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21,900 at Leinster football semi finals double bill with 4 counties is a pitiful attendance, Dublins dominance, negative over and back tactics , wrong time of the year three big factors in such poor attendance today .

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 683 - 28/04/2024 19:19:28    2541262

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Another weekend, another example that the leinster championship is dead, and is not going to change anytime soon. Fair play to the GAA for using an 80 thousand seater stadium though, I'd say the atmosphere was electric throughout and the overall event was really attractive to make up for the one sided Dublin and Offaly affair.

LoyalRoyal66 (Meath) - Posts: 82 - 28/04/2024 20:19:04    2541280

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Replying To OpenStand:  "21,900 at Leinster football semi finals double bill with 4 counties is a pitiful attendance, Dublins dominance, negative over and back tactics , wrong time of the year three big factors in such poor attendance today ."
Dublin scored around same as Limerick hurlers so negative tactics hardly a factor there.

Dónal Óg right again about them condensation of season.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2652 - 28/04/2024 20:30:09    2541283

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Replying To 11jm11:  "There looked to be less than 5k at Louth v Kildare today. As I've said previously, people in Kildare have totally tuned out of gaa. Vast majority would have far more interest in today's premier league games than what happened in Croke park."
My mother used to religiously watch Meath for best part of 60 years. I mean she even went to New York for the Meath v All Stars match in the late 80s. She's in her early 70s now and didn't even know Meath v Dublin was on a couple of weekends ago. She was watching an Aston Villa match instead. She is also a league of Ireland season ticket holder now and watched rugby if it's on. Zero interest in GAA.

I know so many people in Meath who say the same. It was like a cultural genocide what the GAA did to Leinster football outside of Dublin. It will never recover.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1320 - 28/04/2024 23:16:36    2541330

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Replying To Crinigan:  "My mother used to religiously watch Meath for best part of 60 years. I mean she even went to New York for the Meath v All Stars match in the late 80s. She's in her early 70s now and didn't even know Meath v Dublin was on a couple of weekends ago. She was watching an Aston Villa match instead. She is also a league of Ireland season ticket holder now and watched rugby if it's on. Zero interest in GAA.

I know so many people in Meath who say the same. It was like a cultural genocide what the GAA did to Leinster football outside of Dublin. It will never recover."
That's the part that genuinely scares me. Whatever about Dublin's dominance and the GAA's reluctance to do anything just making things pretty bad now, we really don't know how detrimental this could be for Gaelic football in 10-20 years. Kids growing up today in all counties in Leinster (possibly even Dublin) will have no desire to play Gaelic Football for their county or attend the games when they see the absolute rubbish that's being served up in a croke park that has worse atmosphere than the funeral. The thing is I would be very doubtful that anyone from the GAA even pays any attention to forums like this and discussion online, but it's absolutely sickening. Dublin and Meath used to be the highlight of my year, even though we'd lose more times than not. A similar feeling to El Classico and the overall event was spectacular. Now it's dead, and possibly never going to recover

LoyalRoyal66 (Meath) - Posts: 82 - 29/04/2024 07:19:47    2541349

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Less than 10k at the stadium according to the announcer but I was there and thought it looked more tbh."
Attendance figures holding up well according to the deluded….. pathetic turnout for 4 counties in a Leinster semifinals…. Football dying a slow death

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1974 - 29/04/2024 07:37:18    2541351

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Big crowds at the Munster championship again. By in far the biggest attended provincial - next would-be Ulster albeit a big difference in attendances.

Estimates below based on TV coverage.
Cork v Clare 36,814
Limerick v Tipperary 33,475
Donegal v Tyrone 14,714
Leinster football Semi's 21,900
Galway v Kilkenny 10,000 Est
Antrim v Wexford 2,000 Est
Carlow v Dublin 2,000 Est
Offaly v Westmeath 2,000 Est

dingle82 (Down) - Posts: 217 - 29/04/2024 08:31:47    2541358

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Replying To Crinigan:  "My mother used to religiously watch Meath for best part of 60 years. I mean she even went to New York for the Meath v All Stars match in the late 80s. She's in her early 70s now and didn't even know Meath v Dublin was on a couple of weekends ago. She was watching an Aston Villa match instead. She is also a league of Ireland season ticket holder now and watched rugby if it's on. Zero interest in GAA.

I know so many people in Meath who say the same. It was like a cultural genocide what the GAA did to Leinster football outside of Dublin. It will never recover."
Who are "us" for Meath in LOI?

Having championship on, with lots having no TV coverage and rest competing with closing days of English soccer league is another negative in attracting audience.

I would imagine lots of pubs around country show soccer as default and you'd have to ask to see GAA. Dublin city centre is barely recognisable as being Irish to start with so even matches in Croke Park are becoming relatively anonymous.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2652 - 29/04/2024 09:07:26    2541366

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34,000 at Kildare v Offaly in 2000 leinster semi final stand alone fixture, in replay 37,000 attended stand alone fixture. if you look up meath v louth in 1998 or meath v kildare matches from 1997 they loook like another universe, the tension, noise and atmosphere is unreal in croker. all stand alone fixtures that done have dublin involved and meatha and kildare only half the populations of today

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 697 - 29/04/2024 09:42:37    2541378

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A friend runs a pub in London , twenty years ago every GAA match on a Sunday drew a big crowd but these days Munster Hurling , Mayo games ( huge disapro in area) & to a lesser degree Ulster football are the only days he has a crowd. He will get a crowd for the All Ireland Semis & Finals but the biggest point he makes is the neutral has given up watching gaelic football due to 15 men behind the ball tactics, one time fellows from Cork, Clare ,Galway etc would watch a Ulster or Leinster semi final , now they dont bother anymore due to frustration watching slow cagey football outside of Dublin maybe in recent years .

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 683 - 29/04/2024 09:44:50    2541379

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There is a distinct lack of leadership in the GAA. Gaelic football has been in decline for the last 25 years. As a product, it is horrible to watch even when I attend live games. Its been taken over by coaches/managers/gurus who have reduced it to a choreographed dull speculate where players are afraid to express themselves and it has the same level of excitement as two flies crawling up a wall. Add in that there are professional teams with huge resources against amateur teams who are repeatedly told they need to get their own house in order despite the fact that they are unable to fund their own intercounty teams never mind compete with the resources of the top counties. Instead of confronting these two issues, the GAA instead split counties into sixteen who are able to compete for the All Ireland. Not sure where the evidence is that there are sixteen teams at such a level; I don't see much evidence, versus sixteen who need to get their act together in a competition that even the national broadcaster ignores. Is it any wonder that people are switch to rugby for their entertainment, at least there is an atmosphere at a rugby game even if you don't enjoy rugby.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1926 - 29/04/2024 09:50:19    2541382

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Lot of Talk re Leinster Attendances but Ulster figure are low as well compared to previous years
Armagh v Down 12,116 ??
Donegal v Tyrone 14,714

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 683 - 29/04/2024 09:55:49    2541383

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Replying To 11jm11:  "There looked to be less than 5k at Louth v Kildare today. As I've said previously, people in Kildare have totally tuned out of gaa. Vast majority would have far more interest in today's premier league games than what happened in Croke park."
Yes. That's the unfortunate reality. There seems to be a long way back now. It's not just Kildare though. It's all of Leinster.

The GAA traded a strong Leinster for a strong Dublin.

brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 292 - 29/04/2024 10:17:34    2541395

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Replying To LoyalRoyal66:  "That's the part that genuinely scares me. Whatever about Dublin's dominance and the GAA's reluctance to do anything just making things pretty bad now, we really don't know how detrimental this could be for Gaelic football in 10-20 years. Kids growing up today in all counties in Leinster (possibly even Dublin) will have no desire to play Gaelic Football for their county or attend the games when they see the absolute rubbish that's being served up in a croke park that has worse atmosphere than the funeral. The thing is I would be very doubtful that anyone from the GAA even pays any attention to forums like this and discussion online, but it's absolutely sickening. Dublin and Meath used to be the highlight of my year, even though we'd lose more times than not. A similar feeling to El Classico and the overall event was spectacular. Now it's dead, and possibly never going to recover"
Dublin's dominance and takeover of Leinster began in 2005 4 years after the Qualifiers came in.
That left 2 Competitions for Leinster Counties to compete in so why or how did they slip down so far?
Surely to God Meath and Kildare should have been regular Semi Finalists at least with their populations and Economic advantages plus tradition in Meath's case.

Wild scattered mountainous places like Mayo, Donegal and Kerry can compete at the highest level while rural backwater small Counties like ourselves and Monaghan can reach a decent level.

Of course Dublin's dominance has destroyed the Leinster SFC but obviously the other Counties haven't done much to help themselves.
McGeeneys years in Kikdare excepted.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1462 - 29/04/2024 10:49:31    2541408

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Dublin's dominance and takeover of Leinster began in 2005 4 years after the Qualifiers came in.
That left 2 Competitions for Leinster Counties to compete in so why or how did they slip down so far?
Surely to God Meath and Kildare should have been regular Semi Finalists at least with their populations and Economic advantages plus tradition in Meath's case.

Wild scattered mountainous places like Mayo, Donegal and Kerry can compete at the highest level while rural backwater small Counties like ourselves and Monaghan can reach a decent level.

Of course Dublin's dominance has destroyed the Leinster SFC but obviously the other Counties haven't done much to help themselves.
McGeeneys years in Kikdare excepted."
Meath and Kildare should be competing. As should Wexford and Louth.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2522 - 29/04/2024 11:02:46    2541413

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Replying To galwayford:  "Meath and Kildare should be competing. As should Wexford and Louth."
Wexford has a hurling problem while Louth has a soccer problem .
Wicklow has a mountain problem but then so have Donegal and Kerry.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1462 - 29/04/2024 11:39:21    2541430

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Dublin's dominance and takeover of Leinster began in 2005 4 years after the Qualifiers came in.
That left 2 Competitions for Leinster Counties to compete in so why or how did they slip down so far?
Surely to God Meath and Kildare should have been regular Semi Finalists at least with their populations and Economic advantages plus tradition in Meath's case.

Wild scattered mountainous places like Mayo, Donegal and Kerry can compete at the highest level while rural backwater small Counties like ourselves and Monaghan can reach a decent level.

Of course Dublin's dominance has destroyed the Leinster SFC but obviously the other Counties haven't done much to help themselves.
McGeeneys years in Kikdare excepted."
The McGeeney years almost bankrupted the County board in Kildare. It's hard to keep pace with a professional outfit in your province.

Kildare are putting every spare cent into the ground redevelopment at the moment.

It doesn't all come down to money. Kildare should certainly be doing a good bit better given the current playing panel.

Things can change quickly though. Derry went from Division 4 to league champions in 5 years. Once there are competitive games the crowds will return.

brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 292 - 29/04/2024 14:03:10    2541495

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