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Replying To galwayford:  "I am not one to moan and whinge, but having only 21K at Dubs V Meath is not good. What on earth are the elite in Croke park doing.
Poor weather, other competitions, lack of publicity. There is a lot of reasons. But poor decisions by the GAA are among the main ones.
This split season is a joke really."
I am being a bit harsh. I did not attend any matches myself. I am told ticket price is expensive. So why not reduce prices.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2522 - 14/04/2024 20:29:17    2537821

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Gotta be a new low for Dublin/Meath games.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8597 - 14/04/2024 20:40:11    2537824

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Replying To Galway9801:  "61k empty seats is pretty disappointing.
At this stage of the season the gaa usually likes to see about 70k.
Whatever about combating declining attendances just use a smaller stadium to begin with ffs."
In fairness people were glued to the amazing matches accross the water. Like in Croker, the matches at Anfield and Highbury were foregone clusions. However the drama accross the water would have trumpted that in Croker where the result was never in doubt

Jack L (None) - Posts: 3101 - 14/04/2024 20:56:01    2537832

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Replying To galwayford:  "I am not one to moan and whinge, but having only 21K at Dubs V Meath is not good. What on earth are the elite in Croke park doing.
Poor weather, other competitions, lack of publicity. There is a lot of reasons. But poor decisions by the GAA are among the main ones.
This split season is a joke really."
In fairness, lack of publicity or the time of year is not the reason there was only 21,000 at Dublin v Meath today. You could have all the razzmatazz and promotions and sideshows you wanted, on a sunny day at the height of summer, but for as long as the Dubs are so far ahead of everybody else in Leinster, you're simply not going to see big crowds at matches like that one.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2257 - 14/04/2024 20:58:22    2537833

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Replying To galwayford:  "I am not one to moan and whinge, but having only 21K at Dubs V Meath is not good. What on earth are the elite in Croke park doing.
Poor weather, other competitions, lack of publicity. There is a lot of reasons. But poor decisions by the GAA are among the main ones.
This split season is a joke really."
Same as yourself, the split season is a balls up really, instead of going to Cship games in our Tshirts were going with our top coats on wooley hats and the rest, add in daft rule changes , 15 men behind the ball , pulling and dragging, but i suppose ill keep going hoping that good honest football might break out some day

germac (Down) - Posts: 535 - 14/04/2024 21:09:50    2537838

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "The good old provincial championships. Absolute waste of time."
The teams in Ulster wouldn't agree with you, as competitive as ever.....

Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 292 - 14/04/2024 21:47:49    2537847

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Replying To Galway9801:  "61k empty seats is pretty disappointing.
At this stage of the season the gaa usually likes to see about 70k.
Whatever about combating declining attendances just use a smaller stadium to begin with ffs."
Thats what you get when a match is played in Croke Park with the outcome a forgone conclusion....

Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 292 - 14/04/2024 21:51:40    2537850

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Replying To galwayford:  "I am not one to moan and whinge, but having only 21K at Dubs V Meath is not good. What on earth are the elite in Croke park doing.
Poor weather, other competitions, lack of publicity. There is a lot of reasons. But poor decisions by the GAA are among the main ones.
This split season is a joke really."
The split season was voted in by the majority of Counties

Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 292 - 14/04/2024 21:54:01    2537851

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Time of year has nothing to do with it. Everyone knew Dublin would wallop Meath in 3rd gear. The Leinster championship is absolutely dead.

Watch the full Houses next week at the Munster hurling championship and I reckon Hyde Park will be close to full for Roscommon v Mayo too.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11241 - 14/04/2024 22:06:11    2537854

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The biggest problem with football is clearly the lack of competitiveness. Rule changes to make the game less risk averse i am in favour of. But really we are waiting for the semi finals before the competition kicks into gear. 2 weeks after that will be the final, then it is over. There was a Leinster QF between Meath and Dublin in 2007. The attendance was over 70,000. The Leinster championship used to be great. How has it got this bad this quickly?

Franko81 (Derry) - Posts: 2 - 14/04/2024 23:17:37    2537867

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Replying To Scenicparish:  "The teams in Ulster wouldn't agree with you, as competitive as ever....."
Like Down v Antrim and Armagh v Fermanagh?

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1451 - 14/04/2024 23:30:05    2537868

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Time of year has nothing to do with it. Everyone knew Dublin would wallop Meath in 3rd gear. The Leinster championship is absolutely dead.

Watch the full Houses next week at the Munster hurling championship and I reckon Hyde Park will be close to full for Roscommon v Mayo too."
Correct.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7908 - 15/04/2024 00:02:02    2537873

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Replying To realdub:  "Gotta be a new low for Dublin/Meath games."
Agree Realdub

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3680 - 15/04/2024 00:20:35    2537876

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Time of year has nothing to do with it. Everyone knew Dublin would wallop Meath in 3rd gear. The Leinster championship is absolutely dead.

Watch the full Houses next week at the Munster hurling championship and I reckon Hyde Park will be close to full for Roscommon v Mayo too."
That's fair enough, but that shouldn't be a reason to sit back and continue with the same outdated format that we've been going with for the last 100 years. It's destroying the popularity of the game in Leinster

LoyalRoyal66 (Meath) - Posts: 82 - 15/04/2024 07:00:24    2537881

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Time of year has nothing to do with it. Everyone knew Dublin would wallop Meath in 3rd gear. The Leinster championship is absolutely dead.

Watch the full Houses next week at the Munster hurling championship and I reckon Hyde Park will be close to full for Roscommon v Mayo too."
Agreed but the population of Meath is greater than the population of Mayo and Roscommon combined. Never mind the additional 1.5 million people in Dublin. Brutal attendance for a championship game between these two teams.

Obviously Dublin have huge advantages, population, financial resources, huge back up staff with budget and expertise, recovery time for players (less travelling to/from training). Less financial resources spent on travelling expenses can be reallocated to other specific things. Dean Rock wrote this week about getting detailed individual (one to one) feedback from various coaches with video analysis on how to improve. This makes a difference in getting that 1% - 2% more out of yourself which also helps the team improve.

However Meath and Kildare with their resources should be doing much better. It is not only Dublins fault that the Leinster championship is a dead duck at the moment.

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 525 - 15/04/2024 09:04:33    2537900

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Replying To LoyalRoyal66:  "That's fair enough, but that shouldn't be a reason to sit back and continue with the same outdated format that we've been going with for the last 100 years. It's destroying the popularity of the game in Leinster"
Why can't Leinster Counties with huge populations and strong economies not be as good as "little" Monaghan and Roscommon e.g?

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1451 - 15/04/2024 09:24:17    2537903

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Playing Kerry v Cork next Saturday afternoon whilst many are working is another good method of reducing attendances , there's an huge amount of matchs on next weekend which is bordering on impossible to keep track of all to get the championship ran off as quick as possible.

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 678 - 15/04/2024 09:28:48    2537905

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It's very hard to know what to do with attendances at the moment.

A friend of mines grandfather who played and watched games in the 40s/50s said when the Railway cup was at it's peak it was because you had all the top players together and at that time you might only get to one or two games in a year. Whereas nowadays there's just too many games with nothing on the line. Was there ever 25k in Croke Park yesterday? This weekend Kerry v Cork will be lucky to get that figure. Going back to straight knockout would be my suggestion.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 15/04/2024 09:31:34    2537907

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Replying To Franko81:  "The biggest problem with football is clearly the lack of competitiveness. Rule changes to make the game less risk averse i am in favour of. But really we are waiting for the semi finals before the competition kicks into gear. 2 weeks after that will be the final, then it is over. There was a Leinster QF between Meath and Dublin in 2007. The attendance was over 70,000. The Leinster championship used to be great. How has it got this bad this quickly?"
Because for whatever reason there's been a huge relative drop in standard in some counties, particularly Kildare and Meath. In the last 10 years counties like Kerry, Tyrone, and Mayo have all made AI finals and competed well with the Dubs beating them at times. Kildare and Meath have larger populations than any of those 3. They've won underage Leinsters at u20 and minor. Kildare have won 3 of the last 6 u20 football championships beating Dublin in all 3 of those finals. Meath have won 3 of the last 6 Leinster minor finals. Kildare won the last u20 AI final. Offaly won it 3 years ago. Hopefully these counties can raise their own standards at Senior and be more competitive. It's not Dublins fault that they are not.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12113 - 15/04/2024 09:35:16    2537910

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Replying To LoyalRoyal66:  "That's fair enough, but that shouldn't be a reason to sit back and continue with the same outdated format that we've been going with for the last 100 years. It's destroying the popularity of the game in Leinster"
But what is going on with Meath and Kildare that they can't get to level of Mayo, Armagh or Galway? Population not an issue. Employment opportunities not an issue and even if they are working in Dublin it is a very small commute compared to what players from Roscommon, Mayo or Monaghan have to do. Likewise those in 3rd level. No doubt Dublin have been ahead financially but there are numerous businesses and donors that could be tapped into in both counties compared with Roscommon and Monaghan. You have Kildare in 3 All Ireland u20 finals in the past 6-7 years and won two of them. In the years between 2013-2023 Kildare won 4 Leinsters and Meath won 3 at minor level. So both counties are quite competitive at underage and obviously are developing talented footballers. Derry have won only one all Ireland in their history yet they seemed to have collective confidence that they'd get their act together and push towards getting another. Meath have far more history and recent success at winning all Ireland's to draw on. Does it need an Alex Ferguson type character to come in and say we are going to knock the Dubs off their perch and well move heaven and earth to do it?

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 803 - 15/04/2024 09:46:42    2537917

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