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Replying To hunting:  "Is jack out for long"
I wonder would Rossiter consider putting Liam Ryan into the half forwards. At times.on Sunday Carlow only had 1 or 2 players in full forward.

WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 282 - 13/05/2024 11:52:05    2544460

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Replying To Magpie2:  "Antrim were once again beaten out the gate by Dublin. Beaten by 20 points. Kilkenny beat them by 32 points. They simply can't live with top 8 sides, unless of course they are playing Wexford. Nobody seems to know the reason why we struggle big time against weaker teams.
Carlow will be licking their lips in anticipation of playing us. They know we are vulnerable against lower ranked teams and will go out believing they can win.
It's up to us to stop the rot in this regard and play like we did v Galway.
If we go with our fast running game and get the ball in quickly to Mac, Rory and Chinner we most certainly can build up a winning score.
With Jippo back to his best and Damien holding the centre we now look solid in vital positions.
Cente field with Hearne and Lawlor give us speed with skill and can create scores for our front men.
If Kavanagh and Nolan are curtailed we can and should win this game.
But to be honest if we manage to lose I for one won't be surprised."
I think that's a little harsh on Antrim to be honest. They were well in that game until the last ten minutes. The importance of home advantage for them can't be overstated.

They were very unlucky against Dublin in the League and got a result against Clare too.

Not making excuses either but they do have hurlers and in the right circumstances they can trouble teams. The hardest step to take is maintaining the level consistently over a few games as we well know.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2882 - 13/05/2024 12:05:27    2544466

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Replying To WEXILE:  "I wonder would Rossiter consider putting Liam Ryan into the half forwards. At times.on Sunday Carlow only had 1 or 2 players in full forward."
Absolutely not. Ryan is the vital cog in our defence.
Look what happened when he wasn't playing against Dublin and Antrim. If Jippo had played in those two games I firmly believe we would now be sitting on 6 points instead of 3.
Carlow would try to exploit our full back line with high dropping balls on top of a weakened defence without Jippo. I can't really understand why you would suggest such a move. Bottom line is keep Ryan in his best position at all times.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 363 - 13/05/2024 12:16:47    2544472

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Can't say I saw the Carlow result against Kilkenny coming but the upshot is that we now face an even more confident Carlow BUT the mission remains the same, to come out with a win.
We are forewarned but given what happened against Antrim and Westmeath (last and the year and the year before) we shouldn't need any other reference points.
The Antrim game went exactly as I feared it would, Wexford are venerable psychologically, put the game in doubt in the final quarter and we wilt, yes people talk about momentum but I think we have an inevitability complex - we panic, we think 'its happening AGAIN' we have to stay tuned in, stay professional, expect it to be tough and for this not in itself be reason to panic, trust each other, trust the plan. All easier said than done I know.

wexford2012 (Wexford) - Posts: 73 - 13/05/2024 12:30:39    2544480

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I think that's a little harsh on Antrim to be honest. They were well in that game until the last ten minutes. The importance of home advantage for them can't be overstated.

They were very unlucky against Dublin in the League and got a result against Clare too.

Not making excuses either but they do have hurlers and in the right circumstances they can trouble teams. The hardest step to take is maintaining the level consistently over a few games as we well know."
Not harsh Doyler, just stating facts. In 2 games they lost by a total of 52 points.
It's true though they don't travel well.
They always play well in corrigan Park but when on the road they tend to collapse. Again I must stress unless they are playing us yellowbellies.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 363 - 13/05/2024 12:40:33    2544485

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I think that's a little harsh on Antrim to be honest. They were well in that game until the last ten minutes. The importance of home advantage for them can't be overstated.

They were very unlucky against Dublin in the League and got a result against Clare too.

Not making excuses either but they do have hurlers and in the right circumstances they can trouble teams. The hardest step to take is maintaining the level consistently over a few games as we well know."
You're are being very kind their Doyler.

Ignore the league completely , it has 0 relevance to the championship the way the season has shortenned.

Antrim have good hurlers but this year particularly they cant play at all outside of Belfast- getting beaten by 20 and 32 points when away from home shows us they cant compete at this level consistently. They beat Wexford but Wexford can take a lot of credit for that as they were so poor on the day.

OasisorBlur (Wexford) - Posts: 37 - 13/05/2024 12:50:10    2544488

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Very simple really, if we underestimate Carlow just like Kilkenny did then we will we on a hiding to nothing.

We will have to be at our best to go up there and get the win, that's the reality

Which version is going to show up is the question, the version that played Galway or the one that played Antrim.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1373 - 13/05/2024 12:56:59    2544492

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Replying To OasisorBlur:  "You're are being very kind their Doyler.

Ignore the league completely , it has 0 relevance to the championship the way the season has shortenned.

Antrim have good hurlers but this year particularly they cant play at all outside of Belfast- getting beaten by 20 and 32 points when away from home shows us they cant compete at this level consistently. They beat Wexford but Wexford can take a lot of credit for that as they were so poor on the day."
Yeah the league is a bit of a joke really.
Useful for trying out lads before the serious stuff in the championship. Teams just don't want to get relegated and won't be too worried if they àre not in the knockout stages. It's all about the championship really.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 363 - 13/05/2024 13:46:52    2544505

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As said elsewhere, will most likely come down to how much Wexford beat Carlow by compared to how much Cats beat Wexford by V how much defeats by Cats and Galway eats into Dublin's score difference.

Hopefully, it does not turn out that way and that both of us actually qualify and maybe even make final at expense of stripey lads!

Not impossible, but unlikely.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2835 - 13/05/2024 13:51:31    2544507

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Replying To WEXILE:  "I wonder would Rossiter consider putting Liam Ryan into the half forwards. At times.on Sunday Carlow only had 1 or 2 players in full forward."
I this a serious post?

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 656 - 13/05/2024 13:53:58    2544511

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Replying To countyman2022:  "I this a serious post?"
Id agree Jippo has to be full back. Presuming we are without Jacko on Sunday id expect us to start with
Fanning
Eoin Ryan
Jippo
S Reck ( Man Marking Mouse Kavanagh)
Hanlon ( Possibly on Chris Nolan)
D Reck
C Foley
Lawlor
Hearne
K Foley/Dunbar
Chin
Mogie
Tucker/Casey
Mac
ROC

Id agree with other posters we need to bring huge aggression and intensity around the middle third. Carlow will back and crowd the middle third and we must look up in the backs and use the ball. I think we will have a purple patch during the game and the outcome will be decided if we put the foot on the throat and if we dont Carlow will grow in confidence it could be a very difficult afternoon.

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 312 - 13/05/2024 16:59:17    2544550

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "As said elsewhere, will most likely come down to how much Wexford beat Carlow by compared to how much Cats beat Wexford by V how much defeats by Cats and Galway eats into Dublin's score difference.

Hopefully, it does not turn out that way and that both of us actually qualify and maybe even make final at expense of stripey lads!

Not impossible, but unlikely."
Not getting ahead of ourselves or anything, but the head to head over the last 7 years would have us favourites in Kilkenny.

Have to get past Carlow first

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2882 - 13/05/2024 17:03:51    2544553

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Replying To OasisorBlur:  "You're are being very kind their Doyler.

Ignore the league completely , it has 0 relevance to the championship the way the season has shortenned.

Antrim have good hurlers but this year particularly they cant play at all outside of Belfast- getting beaten by 20 and 32 points when away from home shows us they cant compete at this level consistently. They beat Wexford but Wexford can take a lot of credit for that as they were so poor on the day."
We weren't good but we were in control for 59 minutes.

I'd argue that if they could have produced the same aggression in Parnell for 70 minutes it wouldn't have ended like that.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2882 - 13/05/2024 17:06:14    2544554

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Not getting ahead of ourselves or anything, but the head to head over the last 7 years would have us favourites in Kilkenny.

Have to get past Carlow first"
Would still have Kilkenny favourites in Nowlan Park but very marginal. A lot will depend on if they get Mullen, Cody , Carey and Deegan back. Im nearly afraid to look past Sunday given we have to be fully focused on that first. We have proven before we arent good enough to play these teams and win if we are not fully at it .

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 312 - 13/05/2024 17:13:22    2544558

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "As said elsewhere, will most likely come down to how much Wexford beat Carlow by compared to how much Cats beat Wexford by V how much defeats by Cats and Galway eats into Dublin's score difference.

Hopefully, it does not turn out that way and that both of us actually qualify and maybe even make final at expense of stripey lads!

Not impossible, but unlikely."
Having seen all the teams this year so far I don't see any reason why ye can't beat Kilkenny or Galway Barney. But if your lads don't believe they can then they won't.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12799 - 13/05/2024 17:27:14    2544562

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Not getting ahead of ourselves or anything, but the head to head over the last 7 years would have us favourites in Kilkenny.

Have to get past Carlow first"
Collateral form doesn't really mean much does it? Teams are winning games they know they have to are losing games in which they perhaps approach opponents with less than due respect. I doubt Wexford will be caught again, by Carlow i mean.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2835 - 13/05/2024 18:00:05    2544569

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Replying To Magpie2:  "Antrim were once again beaten out the gate by Dublin. Beaten by 20 points. Kilkenny beat them by 32 points. They simply can't live with top 8 sides, unless of course they are playing Wexford. Nobody seems to know the reason why we struggle big time against weaker teams.
Carlow will be licking their lips in anticipation of playing us. They know we are vulnerable against lower ranked teams and will go out believing they can win.
It's up to us to stop the rot in this regard and play like we did v Galway.
If we go with our fast running game and get the ball in quickly to Mac, Rory and Chinner we most certainly can build up a winning score.
With Jippo back to his best and Damien holding the centre we now look solid in vital positions.
Cente field with Hearne and Lawlor give us speed with skill and can create scores for our front men.
If Kavanagh and Nolan are curtailed we can and should win this game.
But to be honest if we manage to lose I for one won't be surprised."
hmmm

Glensboy (Antrim) - Posts: 299 - 13/05/2024 18:10:47    2544573

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Any news on injuries etc...

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1011 - 13/05/2024 20:33:15    2544589

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Replying To Viking66:  "Having seen all the teams this year so far I don't see any reason why ye can't beat Kilkenny or Galway Barney. But if your lads don't believe they can then they won't."
Me not believing they will win has nothing to do with the team, nor will have any influence on them.

Dublin haven't suddenly become a good team by hammering a pretty bad one, no harm to them. Home advantage and the Kilkenny injuries and suspension (straight red I think?) give us a chance, but bookies have us at more or less same price as Antrim were on Saturday and while i don't think we'll be beaten by 20 points, it will take a massive effort to win.

I will say, that MD seems to have judged it better than I believed and pretty much ignored league in favour of getting best team out for Summer and heads right. First signs of that were a couple of challenge games. Certainly lucky to get a point in Wexford but then again they kept battling. Similarly against Carlow they held out well against a team that is clearly no slouch although I fancy Wexford to win with a bit to spare.

It really is unpredictable though, Wexford are perfect example of that. Capable of beating genuine All Ireland contenders and then the week before or after losing to teams who are nowhere near that level. Makes for great excitement, but also heartbreak and woe!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2835 - 13/05/2024 20:55:18    2544592

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Collateral form doesn't really mean much does it? Teams are winning games they know they have to are losing games in which they perhaps approach opponents with less than due respect. I doubt Wexford will be caught again, by Carlow i mean."
You are watching hurling a long time Barney. Its not just today or yesterday we get caught out. Could happen Sunday like a shot.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12799 - 13/05/2024 21:01:14    2544595

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