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Replying To thelongridge: "Probably never played GAA either. Casement should be the premier GAA ground in Ulster, why didn't the rugby brigade develop Kingspan/Ravenhill to cater for big games. They are now going to the GAA for use of their pitches for rugby matches. It is a matter for Ulster GAA to decide on the issue." There is a misconception that Rugby is rolling in money. Ulster Rugby built what they could afford to upkeep. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15675 - 18/08/2023 14:03:06 2501174 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "Hahahahahahaha, rugby a laughing stock at the minute with all their disciplinary problems. You were very quiet on that front but if it was GAA you'd be on running them down. No more rugby on GAA pitches . Club lotto's , fundraisers, black tie dinners to keep our pitches and clubs going for that shower to use them, don't think so. Rugby and soccer have had their money for pitches yet Casement is still on the drawing board. Rugby and soccer can take a run and jump." Did you think at all before you typed???! Rugby a laughing stock with disciplinary problems while someone attempts to stab a referee at an underage football match in Tyrone recently and the brawl on the pitch in the Eglish match recently? Catch a grip. We could learn a lot from rugby regarding their zero tolerance of abuse towards the ref in addition to how the ref communicates with the players on the pitch. Better to saying nothing and let everyone think you're a fool...... oso (Antrim) - Posts: 168 - 18/08/2023 14:32:47 2501188 Link
Replying To oso: "Did you think at all before you typed???! Rugby a laughing stock with disciplinary problems while someone attempts to stab a referee at an underage football match in Tyrone recently and the brawl on the pitch in the Eglish match recently? Catch a grip. We could learn a lot from rugby regarding their zero tolerance of abuse towards the ref in addition to how the ref communicates with the players on the pitch. Better to saying nothing and let everyone think you're a fool......" I agree. I attend both Gaa and rugby on a regular basis and there is night and day between how refs are treated. I attend kids and adult games for both. Abuse of refs is the norm at Gaa matches but is the exception at rugby. The attitude towards refs has an effect on how supporters behave towards each other as well. Nothing against it, but I don't attend soccer matches. ThePowerhouse (Leitrim) - Posts: 230 - 18/08/2023 14:46:24 2501191 Link
Replying To thelongridge: "Probably never played GAA either. Casement should be the premier GAA ground in Ulster, why didn't the rugby brigade develop Kingspan/Ravenhill to cater for big games. They are now going to the GAA for use of their pitches for rugby matches. It is a matter for Ulster GAA to decide on the issue." But unless I'm mistaken, this isn't a case of looking for another ground because Kingspan/Ravenhill wouldn't be able to accommodate the crowd for that match? It's simply a case of the ground being out of commission at that time, due to resurfacing work. Which maybe begs the question why it wasn't resurfaced at some other time during rugby's close season, but that's a whole other issue. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2856 - 18/08/2023 15:06:20 2501196 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "It's the British taxpayers ( many of them rugby and soccer fans and players), who are paying for the redevelopment of Casement Park. Instead of castigating them, you should be thanking them." yes the people of west Belfast should be eternally grateful to the british, they came over to Casement Park, dug up the pitch, broke up the stands and occupied it, they then went around the area handing out candy canes and sugar plums as gifts from the british taxpayer to all the people of west Belfast for the next 40 years - 3 cheers for old blighty Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 18/08/2023 15:36:58 2501205 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "Hahahahahahaha, rugby a laughing stock at the minute with all their disciplinary problems. You were very quiet on that front but if it was GAA you'd be on running them down. No more rugby on GAA pitches . Club lotto's , fundraisers, black tie dinners to keep our pitches and clubs going for that shower to use them, don't think so. Rugby and soccer have had their money for pitches yet Casement is still on the drawing board. Rugby and soccer can take a run and jump." Bitter much??? Selwyn (Meath) - Posts: 408 - 18/08/2023 16:49:28 2501219 Link
Replying To oso: "Did you think at all before you typed???! Rugby a laughing stock with disciplinary problems while someone attempts to stab a referee at an underage football match in Tyrone recently and the brawl on the pitch in the Eglish match recently? Catch a grip. We could learn a lot from rugby regarding their zero tolerance of abuse towards the ref in addition to how the ref communicates with the players on the pitch. Better to saying nothing and let everyone think you're a fool......" Rugby laughing stock? Yes, all over the world with the Farrell case. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2289 - 18/08/2023 17:21:52 2501221 Link
Replying To Viking66: "There is a misconception that Rugby is rolling in money. Ulster Rugby built what they could afford to upkeep." I wouldn't think they are short of a few bob, given their cultural background. The GAA have faculties that put their rugby and soccer counterparts to shame. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 18/08/2023 18:28:48 2501233 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "Hahahahahahaha, rugby a laughing stock at the minute with all their disciplinary problems. You were very quiet on that front but if it was GAA you'd be on running them down. No more rugby on GAA pitches . Club lotto's , fundraisers, black tie dinners to keep our pitches and clubs going for that shower to use them, don't think so. Rugby and soccer have had their money for pitches yet Casement is still on the drawing board. Rugby and soccer can take a run and jump." 100% We should have nothing to do with them. In Dublin during Tan War, when games were broken up by them and they murdered people in Croke Park there were British soldiers playing soccer in Dalymount and the Union Jack flew over Lansdowne Road. And when our people were being murdered in north because they were seen to be associated with GAA clubs, not ONE, not single one person from our "friends" ever opened their mouths. I make no apology for standing over beleif that we should never have let them in the door, BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3512 - 18/08/2023 20:56:38 2501244 Link
Replying To Cbar: "Would this be the majority view of GAA people in Ulster? I went to soccer games in CP when they were there. I think the goals were on the 21 yard lines" Were you on the "Northern Terrace"? FAI took it upon themselves to rename the place and them just there for the day! Surprised they didn't name it after one of the Tans who played for Bohs in 1920s to really make the place their own. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3512 - 18/08/2023 23:34:36 2501252 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "Were you on the "Northern Terrace"? FAI took it upon themselves to rename the place and them just there for the day! Surprised they didn't name it after one of the Tans who played for Bohs in 1920s to really make the place their own." Oscar Traynor. Dev was a rugby man. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2292 - 19/08/2023 10:06:04 2501269 Link
Off the pitches topic, but a good GAA Social pod with Willie Anderson, former Ireland rugby captain. link GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7970 - 19/08/2023 10:50:46 2501276 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "Rugby laughing stock? Yes, all over the world with the Farrell case." We see approximalty 20 facial fractures from the gaa (almost exclusively off the ball) for every single facial fracture we see from rugby in the health service. That's not one bigot shouting his mouth off about one high profile case and applying it to a whole sport..... That's fact!! Seriously, if you are going to make a ridiculous statement like you have done, attempt to back it up. And yes farrels case gets international publicity as he plays a professional sport which is played all over the world. The GAA in every county meanwhile brushes mass on field brawls (assault if carried out in any other walk of life) under the carpet. We are the ones with the disciplinary issues on field and off field, on sidelines with some of the absolute trash spouted by mentors and supporters alike. That's the real embarassement pal!!! Now get back to your village, they are looking for you. And get back to black tie dinners and fundraising etc etc I'm sure your club need it to pay your management team cash in hand, your club won't declare it and neither will your management team to the tax man. Only a dinosaur (and there are plenty on here it seems) doesn't see or isn't aware of the cross community work that ulster rugby and many rugby clubs have attempted to do in recent times. If you don't want to see progress on that front stay in your backwater and let the rest of us get on with it. oso (Antrim) - Posts: 168 - 19/08/2023 10:57:56 2501277 Link
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "Oscar Traynor. Dev was a rugby man." They were exceptions, The IRFU and IFA as it was then were anti national, effectively counter revolutionaries. The GAA was intimate part of the revolution along with the Gaelic League, the Irish trade unions, co-ops etc. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3512 - 19/08/2023 13:18:33 2501289 Link
Replying To oso: "We see approximalty 20 facial fractures from the gaa (almost exclusively off the ball) for every single facial fracture we see from rugby in the health service. That's not one bigot shouting his mouth off about one high profile case and applying it to a whole sport..... That's fact!! Seriously, if you are going to make a ridiculous statement like you have done, attempt to back it up. And yes farrels case gets international publicity as he plays a professional sport which is played all over the world. The GAA in every county meanwhile brushes mass on field brawls (assault if carried out in any other walk of life) under the carpet. We are the ones with the disciplinary issues on field and off field, on sidelines with some of the absolute trash spouted by mentors and supporters alike. That's the real embarassement pal!!! Now get back to your village, they are looking for you. And get back to black tie dinners and fundraising etc etc I'm sure your club need it to pay your management team cash in hand, your club won't declare it and neither will your management team to the tax man. Only a dinosaur (and there are plenty on here it seems) doesn't see or isn't aware of the cross community work that ulster rugby and many rugby clubs have attempted to do in recent times. If you don't want to see progress on that front stay in your backwater and let the rest of us get on with it." No interest in rugger myself but Barney and one or 2 others need to realise were living in 2023 not 1923. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2292 - 19/08/2023 13:32:52 2501296 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "Rugby laughing stock? Yes, all over the world with the Farrell case." If the 'world' knew about half the stuff that went on in the GAA, we'd be a complete laughing stock. Aren't we lucky we don't have the global reach Rugby has. Let me tell you we're not exactly in a position to be wagging fingers at Rugby. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1301 - 19/08/2023 13:45:39 2501300 Link
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "No interest in rugger myself but Barney and one or 2 others need to realise were living in 2023 not 1923." There wouldn't be a GAA nor indeed an Irish state if people hadn't taken that attitude towards anti national elements. And guess what? Back then they were accused of living in the past too :-) BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3512 - 19/08/2023 13:55:58 2501303 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "There wouldn't be a GAA nor indeed an Irish state if people hadn't taken that attitude towards anti national elements. And guess what? Back then they were accused of living in the past too :-)" Barney this has nothing to do with the past or politics. I'll happily debate the pros and pros of republicanism since the late 18th Century all night over a few pints if you come down to Wexford Park for the hurling next May. Rugby, like soccer, is a popular international sport. Nothing more, nothing less. It has nothing to do with the ongoing struggle for freedom on this island. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15675 - 19/08/2023 14:54:00 2501316 Link
Replying To Square_B: "If the 'world' knew about half the stuff that went on in the GAA, we'd be a complete laughing stock. Aren't we lucky we don't have the global reach Rugby has. Let me tell you we're not exactly in a position to be wagging fingers at Rugby." "Let me tell you" is that a quote from Rab C Nesbit? Aren't we lucky indeed, begging men from a professional sport going to an amateur sport for handouts. Classy. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2289 - 19/08/2023 15:04:18 2501319 Link
Replying To Saynothing: ""Let me tell you" is that a quote from Rab C Nesbit? Aren't we lucky indeed, begging men from a professional sport going to an amateur sport for handouts. Classy." What are you rambling on about man? Rent paid for facilities is not a 'handout' you fool. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1301 - 19/08/2023 16:10:05 2501328 Link