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Ireland's Rugby World Cup Warm-Up Games Against Italy, England And Samoa Will Be Shown Live On RTÉ.

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  ""but that doesn't change the fact that the us womens team recently lost 12-0 (the game was abandoned at 40 minutes) to a bunch of Wrexham retirees."

That is utter BS."
I should have also mentioned the athletico Madrid u16 boys beating their senior womens team 6-0,,and an underage Australian boys team beating the Australian senior womens team 7.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1614 - 09/07/2023 10:08:29    2493274

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Billions of people watch soap operas and listen to "music" made by computers and drum machines. It's still rubbish. Lowest common denominator sells,

My point re women's soccer is that even as part of that LCD very few people could be bothered watching it and yet the myth is being created that the entire country is interested. Attendances and viewing figures suggest that they are not. Same goes for women's rugby by the way."
God but you seep arrogance. Since when was your personal taste the arbiter of what is "superior" and "inferior". This is the international team representing the country at the highest level in the game on the international stage. Of course RTÉ are right to broadcast it. If your knuckle dragging "logic" was to be implemented there would be very little sport broadcast. Club Gaelic games wouldn't be broadcast because it is "inferior" to inter county Gaelic games. Men's LOI soccer wouldn't be broadcast because it is "inferior" to the Premier League. Bournemouth's games wouldn't be broadcast because they are "inferior" to Manchester City. The Champions League is the pinnacle of club soccer. Everything else is "inferior". If you don't like what you see go out and cut the grass.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6025 - 09/07/2023 10:58:55    2493286

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Replying To ModernMaharaja:  "Well that's a load of sh**e , I got 2 for that price but work away"
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Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6025 - 09/07/2023 10:59:44    2493287

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Replying To Galway9801:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  ""but that doesn't change the fact that the us womens team recently lost 12-0 (the game was abandoned at 40 minutes) to a bunch of Wrexham retirees."

That is utter BS."
I should have also mentioned the athletico Madrid u16 boys beating their senior womens team 6-0,,and an underage Australian boys team beating the Australian senior womens team 7."
Yes. And it has nothing to do with "chauvinism." Women and girls compete physically with men on level playing field. Which is why there is so much controversy around biological males who have decided for whatever reasons to claim that they are female and have made nonsense of several womens and girls sports around the world. We even had an example in Dublin LGFA last year.

It has nothing to do either with the courage or skill of women. Rachael Blackmore competes successfully in arguably the dangerous and courage requiring sport of them all, but she wouldn't beat Brian Hughes in a foot race!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2399 - 09/07/2023 11:04:52    2493289

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Replying To Greengrass:  "God but you seep arrogance. Since when was your personal taste the arbiter of what is "superior" and "inferior". This is the international team representing the country at the highest level in the game on the international stage. Of course RTÉ are right to broadcast it. If your knuckle dragging "logic" was to be implemented there would be very little sport broadcast. Club Gaelic games wouldn't be broadcast because it is "inferior" to inter county Gaelic games. Men's LOI soccer wouldn't be broadcast because it is "inferior" to the Premier League. Bournemouth's games wouldn't be broadcast because they are "inferior" to Manchester City. The Champions League is the pinnacle of club soccer. Everything else is "inferior". If you don't like what you see go out and cut the grass."
Somethings are obviously inferior to others.

If people want to listen to rap rather than Motown. or watch operas in preference to Frank Capra movies then that is their choice. No one will be listening to or watching rap or soap operas in 60/70 years time. That is how you determine what is inferior.

However, women's soccer fails on both fronts. It is an inferior product and no one watches it.

Apologies if this goes over your head :-)

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2399 - 09/07/2023 11:16:24    2493291

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Somethings are obviously inferior to others.

If people want to listen to rap rather than Motown. or watch operas in preference to Frank Capra movies then that is their choice. No one will be listening to or watching rap or soap operas in 60/70 years time. That is how you determine what is inferior.

However, women's soccer fails on both fronts. It is an inferior product and no one watches it.

Apologies if this goes over your head :-)"
Seeping arrogance.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6025 - 09/07/2023 11:42:50    2493302

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I don't watch rugby or soccer, it seems to be a growing trend in my area to watch the Ireland rugby team. I won't be watching.

PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 202 - 09/07/2023 16:12:38    2493345

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Replying To Greengrass:  "Chauvinism is alive and well I see."
The sport is much less physical than men's football, there are many reasons to not like woman's football but of course people always jump on the misogyny accusations. I don't like hurling either, are you going to accuse me of misandry?

PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 202 - 09/07/2023 16:19:07    2493347

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Replying To Greengrass:  "You spoke specifically about women's soccer. Just because you don't like soccer doesn't mean it's "an inferior product." Billions of people play, watch and support soccer. I love Gaelic games as played by men and women. I also thoroughly enjoy soccer. RTÉ are dead right to broadcast the women's soccer matches. It's great for young girls to see the national team getting the exposure they and their exploits deserve."
And just because something is popular doesn't mean it is superior. I always use the restaurant example, McDonalds is popular world wide, it doesn't mean it has the best food on the market.

PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 202 - 09/07/2023 16:21:30    2493348

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "The sport is much less physical than men's football, there are many reasons to not like woman's football but of course people always jump on the misogyny accusations. I don't like hurling either, are you going to accuse me of misandry?"
Two different things. If you are saying that women's soccer is no good because you are comparing it to men's you are being a chauvinist. If you claim women shouldn't be playing football as its only a man's game you are a misogynist. So decide which one you are. Comparing your dislike for hurling and like of football is not the same.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1768 - 09/07/2023 21:02:25    2493437

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "And just because something is popular doesn't mean it is superior. I always use the restaurant example, McDonalds is popular world wide, it doesn't mean it has the best food on the market."
You missed the entire point.

Popular stuff is often inferior.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2399 - 09/07/2023 23:15:01    2493468

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "You missed the entire point.

Popular stuff is often inferior."
These fixtures will suit RTE and their clientele and all their wannabe followers around the country..30 or 40 years ago when these elete didnt need mainstream public support some of the people now apparently who 'love' rugby wouldnt be let inside the gate of a rugby game..these fixtures wont cost me any time or energy..over complicated and boring game in the main..mic'ed up referees are the only good thing about it..each to their own of course..

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 10/07/2023 22:56:24    2493700

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "These fixtures will suit RTE and their clientele and all their wannabe followers around the country..30 or 40 years ago when these elete didnt need mainstream public support some of the people now apparently who 'love' rugby wouldnt be let inside the gate of a rugby game..these fixtures wont cost me any time or energy..over complicated and boring game in the main..mic'ed up referees are the only good thing about it..each to their own of course.."
hahahaha
over complicated how exactly?
wannabe followers??
what people ever were stopped from attending rugby games or let inside gate of a rugby club??

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3436 - 12/07/2023 14:14:39    2493980

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "These fixtures will suit RTE and their clientele and all their wannabe followers around the country..30 or 40 years ago when these elete didnt need mainstream public support some of the people now apparently who 'love' rugby wouldnt be let inside the gate of a rugby game..these fixtures wont cost me any time or energy..over complicated and boring game in the main..mic'ed up referees are the only good thing about it..each to their own of course.."
wannabe followers?
what peoople wouldnt have been let in gate at a rugby game?
how is rugby over complicated or boring?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3436 - 12/07/2023 15:42:56    2493989

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "These fixtures will suit RTE and their clientele and all their wannabe followers around the country..30 or 40 years ago when these elete didnt need mainstream public support some of the people now apparently who 'love' rugby wouldnt be let inside the gate of a rugby game..these fixtures wont cost me any time or energy..over complicated and boring game in the main..mic'ed up referees are the only good thing about it..each to their own of course.."
Too stop start of a game. Every second decision by a referee has to go to the TMO it seems. Maybe referees don't have confidence in their decision making.

At local club games referees have to make decisions on the spot as there are no TMOs or cameras.

KnockaineyAbú (Limerick) - Posts: 96 - 12/07/2023 16:01:19    2493990

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Replying To KnockaineyAbú:  "Too stop start of a game. Every second decision by a referee has to go to the TMO it seems. Maybe referees don't have confidence in their decision making.

At local club games referees have to make decisions on the spot as there are no TMOs or cameras."
There is nothing at all like that in the pro game
They've reduced tmo role as well and I'd rather that than the set up in gaa with umpires who have little to no powers and don't step in near enough even when they can
To suggest Refs don't have confidence in their decisions is laughable

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3436 - 12/07/2023 16:17:02    2493994

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Replying To Galway9801:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  ""but that doesn't change the fact that the us womens team recently lost 12-0 (the game was abandoned at 40 minutes) to a bunch of Wrexham retirees."

That is utter BS."
I should have also mentioned the athletico Madrid u16 boys beating their senior womens team 6-0,,and an underage Australian boys team beating the Australian senior womens team 7."
Never mind talking more BS (I'll come back to that).
Give us more details on the:
"but that doesn't change the fact that the us womens team recently lost 12-0 (the game was abandoned at 40 minutes) to a bunch of Wrexham retirees."

Did you see the game? Name the players from the "us womens team" who played?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2391 - 12/07/2023 21:28:34    2494036

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Replying To KnockaineyAbú:  "Too stop start of a game. Every second decision by a referee has to go to the TMO it seems. Maybe referees don't have confidence in their decision making.

At local club games referees have to make decisions on the spot as there are no TMOs or cameras."
The same demand exists in the GAA, people believe the higher the level of compensation the greater the stakes so more money should be spent on getting everything right. Hawkeye? All the linesmen are mic'edto the ref. Even within club, what games only have a ref as opposed to a ref independent umpires and linesmen?
I wish people would stop trying to put down one sport to try and prove the GAA is the best, it's really a bit sad.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1768 - 12/07/2023 21:56:32    2494039

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