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a very minor point but i miss being in the pub leading up to games and ud be talking about the the teams picked for the weekends games " i see kilkenny have dropped "nicky" ah he will be on before 1/2 time , i see the dubs have moved "jonny" wing back, i see "mj" is only a sub on sunday for wexford , has not being playing well anyway, i think he is past his best and so on !!!!!! now the selected team of any county is not wotth reading because they wont line out that way, and in fairness to croke park there is nothing they can do about it

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2848 - 08/06/2023 18:10:21    2485007

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Personally I think what should happen if a team makes changes before thrown from team named they should Count as a sub ie if a county named a team and replace any of the team before game starts that's a sub used so if a team makes 3, changes Thar counts as 3 subs , if a player from original team named is injured prior to game that would not Count as a sub , but that player could not be named on subs or come on at any stage ,,

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 850 - 08/06/2023 18:38:57    2485008

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "a very minor point but i miss being in the pub leading up to games and ud be talking about the the teams picked for the weekends games " i see kilkenny have dropped "nicky" ah he will be on before 1/2 time , i see the dubs have moved "jonny" wing back, i see "mj" is only a sub on sunday for wexford , has not being playing well anyway, i think he is past his best and so on !!!!!! now the selected team of any county is not wotth reading because they wont line out that way, and in fairness to croke park there is nothing they can do about it"
If they made a rule where 2 changes to named team are allowed and any change after that is using one of your substitutes from the game it would stop. I say allow 2 because some cases are genuine where a player maybe picks up an injury in a warm up etc. And maybe if a player is touch and go to be fit, a manager can't name him in a team on Friday evening for a game on Sunday,

D.Hyde (Roscommon) - Posts: 149 - 08/06/2023 18:41:11    2485009

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "a very minor point but i miss being in the pub leading up to games and ud be talking about the the teams picked for the weekends games " i see kilkenny have dropped "nicky" ah he will be on before 1/2 time , i see the dubs have moved "jonny" wing back, i see "mj" is only a sub on sunday for wexford , has not being playing well anyway, i think he is past his best and so on !!!!!! now the selected team of any county is not wotth reading because they wont line out that way, and in fairness to croke park there is nothing they can do about it"
I totally agree with you… why managers pick 3/4 players knowing well they won't play makes absolutely no sense to me… Do they think they are fooling the opposition or what…? All I see is them ending up fooling themselves…!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1956 - 08/06/2023 18:43:36    2485010

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "a very minor point but i miss being in the pub leading up to games and ud be talking about the the teams picked for the weekends games " i see kilkenny have dropped "nicky" ah he will be on before 1/2 time , i see the dubs have moved "jonny" wing back, i see "mj" is only a sub on sunday for wexford , has not being playing well anyway, i think he is past his best and so on !!!!!! now the selected team of any county is not wotth reading because they wont line out that way, and in fairness to croke park there is nothing they can do about it"
You need a Jimmy Sloyan down yer way

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1137 - 08/06/2023 19:08:30    2485012

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For some reason (possibly just nostalgia), I kinda miss seeing A.N Other on the team sheet....

streaker (Galway) - Posts: 497 - 08/06/2023 21:10:43    2485032

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If people simply didn't buy the Match programme

KnockaineyAbú (Limerick) - Posts: 96 - 08/06/2023 21:35:46    2485038

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "I totally agree with you… why managers pick 3/4 players knowing well they won't play makes absolutely no sense to me… Do they think they are fooling the opposition or what…? All I see is them ending up fooling themselves…!"
Imo it's being done so the media don't get the hump.

There could be any reason why there are changes before a game. Someone could pick up an injury during the warm-up or could be doing a late fitness test etc

The media, at times, think they've a right to be updated on everything days before games are played.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 09/06/2023 10:20:53    2485082

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "You need a Jimmy Sloyan down yer way"
Yes I share your thoughts.A.N Other was a fantastic versatile player that got named somewhere between no 2 and 15. Rarely named in goals. On a serious note does anyone have any consideration for the lad that's named on maybe Wednesday evening before a game on Sunday and that lad knowing that he's not playing. He has to endure loads of well wishers at work on the street and through social media. He has to smile and play dumb for the good of the team.

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1670 - 09/06/2023 13:46:40    2485121

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Replying To eoinog:  "Yes I share your thoughts.A.N Other was a fantastic versatile player that got named somewhere between no 2 and 15. Rarely named in goals. On a serious note does anyone have any consideration for the lad that's named on maybe Wednesday evening before a game on Sunday and that lad knowing that he's not playing. He has to endure loads of well wishers at work on the street and through social media. He has to smile and play dumb for the good of the team."
and he cant tell his wife/father/mother/gf/bf/sister/brother/workmates he is not playing

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2848 - 09/06/2023 18:38:04    2485165

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I don't understand all the hoo-ha over this. If you look at soccer, let's say the Premier League. The team sheet is given to the referee 1 hour before the kick off. There are no issues with this from the fans or the media. So why all this fuss with GAA games? Nearly all team sports have some players recovering from knocks and injuries, some of who need to be fitness tested at the last moment for possible selection, before the starting team is picked.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2481 - 09/06/2023 21:18:39    2485190

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "I don't understand all the hoo-ha over this. If you look at soccer, let's say the Premier League. The team sheet is given to the referee 1 hour before the kick off. There are no issues with this from the fans or the media. So why all this fuss with GAA games? Nearly all team sports have some players recovering from knocks and injuries, some of who need to be fitness tested at the last moment for possible selection, before the starting team is picked."
point, but its just the way its always been, your counties line out would be the topic of conversation in the pub or in the mart or in the shop the days before a game

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2848 - 09/06/2023 23:04:11    2485203

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "point, but its just the way its always been, your counties line out would be the topic of conversation in the pub or in the mart or in the shop the days before a game"
Surely it just adds to the conversation? e.g. "I see Tommy is named at number 12 but I don't think he'll actually start, and that Johnny might be in there instead."

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2256 - 10/06/2023 11:28:24    2485238

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You got to hand it to the Rugby . They name their 15. No bulls.. t. Everyone knows what position every one plays. James Lowe won't suddenly be the hooker, nor will Conor Murray play at fullback. It's a case of 15 v 15. Let the best team win

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1670 - 10/06/2023 11:38:18    2485242

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I would say that you can name whoever you want but if you swap someone out of the starting 15 that they are not allowed to be used as a sub during the game. You're not losing a sub during the game but you have less options. Teams have 11 subs and can use 5 as it is. Would stop a lot of it I feel.

SeanMacDiarmada (Leitrim) - Posts: 395 - 10/06/2023 12:54:44    2485245

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Replying To eoinog:  "You got to hand it to the Rugby . They name their 15. No bulls.. t. Everyone knows what position every one plays. James Lowe won't suddenly be the hooker, nor will Conor Murray play at fullback. It's a case of 15 v 15. Let the best team win"
Positions in rugby tend to be more specialised, there is far more versatility in GAA players.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1916 - 10/06/2023 13:01:32    2485247

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Replying To Bon:  "Positions in rugby tend to be more specialised, there is far more versatility in GAA players."
I agree with you but is Conor Murray is named on a Wednesday evening to play England on Sat unless he gets injured he will start. At the last minute he won't be dropped to the subs and replaced by Gibson Park .....

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1670 - 10/06/2023 15:27:29    2485286

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Replying To Bon:  "Positions in rugby tend to be more specialised, there is far more versatility in GAA players."
Thy most certainly are most specialised in rugby but at least teams are confident enough to just name a team and only make a change to announced team if a player is unfit to start and there's none of the bullshit of players lised to start who start game from bench or named start on bench but when whistle goes to start tue game they are in starting 15

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3513 - 11/06/2023 01:20:18    2485412

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Replying To eoinog:  "I agree with you but is Conor Murray is named on a Wednesday evening to play England on Sat unless he gets injured he will start. At the last minute he won't be dropped to the subs and replaced by Gibson Park ....."
It's just a dirty habit in GAA unfortunately

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1916 - 11/06/2023 10:11:45    2485438

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The programme makers in the 1990s often mis spelled the names and even got the club's wrong. In the 1992 league final programme I was reading they got the managers club wrong. Those old programmes don't smell too good when they age. I wonder are modern programmes made from acid free paper.

PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 224 - 11/06/2023 19:27:15    2485600

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