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Just wondering, when was the last year that wexford (or any of the big 9) did not participate in the top flight championship? GaA247 (Cork) - Posts: 58 - 22/05/2023 01:15:48 2480268 Link 0 |
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In the case of Wexford, yesterday I think. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1140 - 22/05/2023 13:09:28 2480487 Link 4 |
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Childish, you claim we're your 2nd county but you don't half miss a chance to stick the boot in...
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1758 - 22/05/2023 13:21:52 2480492 Link 1 |
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Let's hope this is only a temporary blip. I have been a Wexford Hurling supporter all my life, in the absence of our own ability to make the breakthrough at senior level. I have from the great days of the Rackards, through to the Doran's and up to the Tony Dunne era. Many great days in Croker. Looking at this years U20s, it shouldn't be too long. Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1004 - 22/05/2023 13:25:56 2480494 Link 0 |
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I think Offaly were the last big County to drop down a grade.
Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 22/05/2023 13:28:55 2480495 Link 0 |
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Must be over 00 years ago I'd be guessing. But then in that time there have been poor enough Wexford, Waterford, Clare, Dublin, Limerick and Galway teams that could've got relegated if there had of been any relegation. Tipperary and Cork also. Can't say I ever heard of a Kilkenny team being that bad though.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12089 - 22/05/2023 13:31:23 2480497 Link 0 |
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I misunderstood the OPs post Ban. I thought he meant the current top 9.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12089 - 22/05/2023 14:20:11 2480527 Link 0 |
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Have looked up the history books, and last time Wexford didn't compete in the top flight was 1926, when we were in the Junior Championship rather than the Senior.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2255 - 22/05/2023 14:24:28 2480533 Link 0 |
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Wexford lost an All Ireland relegation play off to Clare in 2009, but for some reason they weren't relegated. OpenStandWall (Wexford) - Posts: 66 - 22/05/2023 14:49:54 2480548 Link 0 |
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Wexford can turn this around they won't hold back Sunday and look at Tipp last year on the floor out of championship before end of May. Now with a change of manager and a bit of belief instilled in the panel of players assembled and we cud finish ahead of Cork and Limerick maybe even Clare on scoring difference or head to head. Egan gave this a go in fairness but I don't think Wexford was the place to start for his managerial career. I don't think he'll be there next year. It was a gamble and when the style of hurling and tactics Davy employed got this Wexford team through many a season the shift and imbalance plus loss of so many leaders has them in this situation. I'd hate for Wexford to go down but it's also going to be tough on Antrim and Westmeath and I actually think Antrim might be the ones to lose out. WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 22/05/2023 14:55:47 2480554 Link 1 |
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One reason we weren't relegated after that is that it was just a relegation semi-final. There was another semi-final that year too, where Offaly beat Antrim. Original intention was then that Wexford would play Antrim to see who'd go down to the Christy Ring Cup (this was before the Joe McDonagh was introduced), but it was later decided to leave both teams in the top tier for the following year, and to allow Carlow (the Christy Ring Cup winners of 2009) into the senior championship for 2010 as well. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2255 - 22/05/2023 15:05:08 2480565 Link 0 |
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Having seen both Antrim and Westmeath against Wexford I think Antrim will win next Sunday. Wexford butchered at least 4 really good goal chances and missed a penalty as well.
HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 486 - 22/05/2023 15:28:14 2480582 Link 0 |
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Come on now TerribleFootwork, lighten up. I was being facetious. Wexford wife/children involved in a Wexford club, I take no joy in where Wexford are at and hope to god they get the job done on Sunday. It could easily be Dublin in another year. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1140 - 22/05/2023 15:29:26 2480583 Link 2 |
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You could argue both teams here probably had this game ear marked from a long way out and as luck would have it the game is the final act of both their season. GAA really know how to set up finales but Wexford didn't envisage they would be in the thick of a potential relegation. On paper yes Antrim are further down the road. If Westmeath are in the game you'd feel they could win given what they done yesterday. And it wasn't like they broke sweat either which is very odd. I think the hurling gods will allow Wexford to stay up and they need this game more than Kilkenny so I think they won't even be relying on the Antrim Westmeath game. If Wexford supporters get behind the team they can beat Kilkenny I'm confident Wexford will be up for it and give their best performance of the year.
WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 22/05/2023 19:20:28 2480680 Link 0 |
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Because Clare had already got the nod from Croke Park they wouldn't be relegated when they kicked up a racket. So they couldn't relegate Wexford then. An absolute disgrace it was. Not that Wexford survived but that Clare had gotten away with saying they shouldn't be relegated as per the rules.
Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1412 - 22/05/2023 19:29:24 2480686 Link 0 |
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In fairness, it was little or nothing to do with Clare, and the rules of the competition structure that year were a mess. Two relegation semi-finals were to be played between the four teams who were first to go out in the "back door" series of games. These turned out to be Offaly, Antrim, Clare, and Wexford. However, this was the first year for Antrim (and Galway) to compete in the Leinster Championship, and Antrim pointed out at this stage that when they were accepted into it, they were promised they'd have at least three years there, and that this meant they couldn't be relegated. This threw the whole thing into a mess, and while CCCC wondered what to do about it, they fixed the relegation semi-finals anyway (possibly the most pointless matches ever to be played). Perhaps they were hoping Antrim would win their semi-final, to get them out of the mess. But Antrim lost, and so were facing a relegation final v Wexford, even though they couldn't actually be relegated. This in turn was wholly unfair on Wexford, who were now faced with becoming victim of a structure that shouldn't have been there in the first place. So, it was eventually decided that there'd be no relegation at all, and that the championship would be expanded the following year by allowing in the winners of the Christy Ring Cup anyway (remember this was when Christy Ring was the Tier 2 competition). That happened to be yourselves, Carlow. Not sure why you still have such a gripe about it all these years later, considering your team was promoted anyway. And while you could indeed argue that the situation was "an absolute disgrace", it wasn't a disgrace of Clare's making, so don't know why you're accusing them either. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2255 - 23/05/2023 10:13:06 2480772 Link 1 |
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Same happened in 2005 I think? Around that time. Was end of Dublin's worst run ever. Lost 14 games in a row. Had to play Laois in relegation match. Players had overthrown the manager and Tommy Naughton - may God shine on him - came in and we won, but they decided not to relegate Laois anyway. I sincerely hope Wexford do not go down and will be shouting for them against the Cats. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2584 - 23/05/2023 10:20:37 2480777 Link 0 |
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Hard not to agree with this. Well said
hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 954 - 23/05/2023 11:25:12 2480818 Link 1 |
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If you are that sensitive to a tongue in cheek remark that is yours to figure out.
ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1140 - 23/05/2023 12:12:46 2480842 Link 0 |
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How did Clare end up in that and why did they not have the "protected" Munster status the counties have now?
ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1140 - 23/05/2023 12:14:31 2480843 Link 0 |