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I see where Laois, management not happy with selection approach of Offaly against Carlow. Blackbog (Carlow) - Posts: 704 - 16/05/2023 18:17:18 2479073 Link 3 |
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I wouldn't either. And you are right. It's effectively a League. It's up to every team in it to look after themselves.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11841 - 16/05/2023 19:49:19 2479099 Link 1 |
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Any othe team in Offaly's position would do the same, but it's not right or fair. The simple solution is to get rid of the Final. The team that finishes top of the round-robin table should be the winner of the Joe McDonagh Cup.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2460 - 16/05/2023 19:57:06 2479102 Link 0 |
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The top 3 in Munster and Leinster go to the knockout stages. The the top 3 in the McDonagh, Ring, Rackard and Meagher groups should also qualify from the group stage. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7842 - 16/05/2023 20:01:03 2479103 Link 0 |
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Offaly have played some amount of games so hardly surprising they went deeper into the panel for the last game. Carlow, however, are definitely a lot better than in league and seem to be coming good at the right time so final could be a lot closer than the betting indicates. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2554 - 16/05/2023 20:31:00 2479105 Link 0 |
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Offaly done nothing wrong but it's wrong,why didn't Offaly put out a weakened team against laois, maybe change the format a little bit, maybe top to the final and second plays third or something like that,I'm not blaming Offaly but it's not right.
cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 16/05/2023 20:47:00 2479109 Link 0 |
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Offaly entitled to put out what team they like. kerryforsam23 (Kerry) - Posts: 5 - 16/05/2023 21:11:00 2479113 Link 0 |
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No point in Laois blaming other counties for their own failures. sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2897 - 16/05/2023 21:24:08 2479118 Link 1 |
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Offaly got shafted playing 7 or 8 weekends in a row at the end of the national league and start of Joe McDonagh, they also looked after their own business unlike Laois winning 4 games on the bounce so they were entitled to do whatever they wanted.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1716 - 16/05/2023 21:28:05 2479122 Link 1 |
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Carlow sufdeed the same fate last year and they took their medicine. Laois should do likewise. Overthebar53 (Carlow) - Posts: 203 - 16/05/2023 23:52:25 2479133 Link 1 |
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I wouldn't pay any attention to Laois whinging. They played both Carlow & Offaly in the Championship & couldn't beat either team. As you said we were on the receiving end of this last year when Antrim played a weakened team against Kerry & lost which meant we missed out on the final. While I was disappointed with Antrim I fully understood that as they had topped the group they were entitled to give their squad players a game. I also took it as a compliment that they fielded a weakened team as they didn't want to meet us in the final. Laois Manager quoted as saying he wouldn't field a weakened team in similar circumstances is rubbish. Even their football supporters would have you believe that they are not a div 4 team either even though they will be spending another year there next year. Anyway looking forward to the final carlo (Carlow) - Posts: 212 - 17/05/2023 07:48:54 2479138 Link 0 |
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I'm hoping you beat the Cats Barney. Then, if we beat Westmeath, it will be winner goes through when we play them. No complications. No whingeing.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11841 - 17/05/2023 10:00:22 2479166 Link 0 |
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Well said and well put, the final is definitely up for grabs and should be a cracker! Laois like Kerry kildare and Down got what they deserved from the Joe Mc, nothing!
keepitlit (Longford) - Posts: 33 - 17/05/2023 10:03:40 2479168 Link 0 |
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Galway did the same last year against Roscommon knowing it would knock out Derry and give them a final v Roscommon with a full team… It backfired as Roscommon turned them over again…. Hopefully the same thing happens to Offaly…! ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1924 - 17/05/2023 10:15:25 2479174 Link 1 |
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always a dangerous animal these league group games where you have "finals" at the end..easy solution is play it league only, winners go straight up as champions and into championship propper, playing it sor early in the year they should be able to go into their own province even if the system was propper...second place team should just get promoted possibly to their province next year...thats a fair insentive I would think...cups now almost given out for entering a competition, all very grand and all to get some sort of silver ware, outside the players involved will most within the county let alone outside remember these in 4 or 5 years time let alone 20 or 30 years...yeah I get it its nice to have some sort of cup for the weaker teams but their is a list of them now... Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 17/05/2023 10:21:37 2479176 Link 0 |
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Can see Laois' argument. I posted yesterday about the Tipp Waterford game and people took me up wrong regarding Waterford not bothering with the game. I agree with their point though that its unfair on everyone else if they don't but thats the one big issue with the group. Someone made the point that 3 teams getting out of the Sam Maguire groups is likely to mean you dont have any dead rubbers in the last game - but there are obvious drawbacks to that too. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 17/05/2023 10:50:28 2479191 Link 0 |
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Carlow won't be afraid of Offaly
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11841 - 17/05/2023 11:06:11 2479201 Link 0 |