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Derry v Armagh - 2023 Ulster SFC Final

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Brilliant exciting game! Shame there could be no replay but the penalties bring their own excitement too!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11896 - 14/05/2023 19:00:23    2478437

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Epic Game. Well done Derry, thought ref was very harsh on them all throughout the game.

martinjoe (Mayo) - Posts: 499 - 14/05/2023 19:02:32    2478439

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "McGeeney must be the unlucliest manger I ever seen, what a contest, well done to Derry and hard luck to Armagh."
Didn't properly go for it when it was 15 v 14.
Nothing to do with luck. It was there for Armagh.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 14/05/2023 19:08:41    2478442

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Congrats Derry - delighted for your county and gaels after all that has gone on this week.
We played rightly just need a more ruthless streak when that goal chance opens-up and the capability to hold on at the end of a game when in control. Great entertainment - that's what it's all about in the end!

ardmhacha (Armagh) - Posts: 172 - 14/05/2023 19:10:41    2478443

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Thank God for the Ulster Final. The only competition worth watching in Gaelic Football."
And yet for most of the match it was a snooze fest. The last 10 minutes of normal time through to the penalties glossed over a forgettable match. But it's still the most competitive competition. Well done Derry.

SimonstownBack (Meath) - Posts: 143 - 14/05/2023 19:31:48    2478455

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Connacht is decent also but not helped with Sligo getting the luck of draw this year, Sligo will improve with two good U20 teams the last two years.

Well done to Derry but to be honest I can't stand soccer penalties to decide a GAA match."
Penalties have been a part of gaelic football for over a century.

Why do you refer to them as 'soccer penalties' ?

Do they wheel out soccer sized goals for the shootout?

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 14/05/2023 19:36:35    2478459

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Replying To ardmhacha:  "Congrats Derry - delighted for your county and gaels after all that has gone on this week.
We played rightly just need a more ruthless streak when that goal chance opens-up and the capability to hold on at the end of a game when in control. Great entertainment - that's what it's all about in the end!"
Commiserations and a classy post. It was a brilliant game full of drama and showcased the Ulster Championship as the jewel in the Crown. 29k at the game. Great atmosphere. Obviously overjoyed at winning but feel for Armagh and my best friends wife is an Armagh woman. Feel for her. She loves the football!! It's a tricky enough draw now in the round Robin for Armagh. Galway are to my mind the best team in the country and Tyrone beat you in the league. Westmeath should be a gimme but tough group. For Derry we would be aiming to top our group and sale through.

Jazzyjeff (Derry) - Posts: 156 - 14/05/2023 19:39:13    2478460

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Don't watch, I didn't watch Dublin at home , dreadful final."
What has the Leinster final got to do with the Ulster Final. Are you going to tell us that your Dad's car is bigger than my Dad's car next? Very childish. Call it what it is instead of circling the Ulster wagons on anyone from another province who dares to question footballing quality. Close game yes, quality no.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 14/05/2023 19:49:01    2478467

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Replying To Joxer:  "Awful football. Hand passing in your own half for 4m, venture forward at snails pace, get dragged down. Rinse, repeat. Drama yes, football no. As for the colour clash. Good God. In this day and age, unforgivable."
Maybe Croke Park could give every other county €16 million and we could maybe raise everything up to the standard of the Leinster Championship....oh wait.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9703 - 14/05/2023 19:56:50    2478469

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Replying To SimonstownBack:  "And yet for most of the match it was a snooze fest. The last 10 minutes of normal time through to the penalties glossed over a forgettable match. But it's still the most competitive competition. Well done Derry."
Did you attend Dublin's Leinster Coronation this year? I feel sorry for Meath now, it's just a big Dublin suburb....full of Dubs and Dublin tops.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9703 - 14/05/2023 19:58:38    2478471

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Replying To The_analyser:  "Armagh must be hating the sight of penalties at this stage. A shootout an awful way to decide a provincial final but well done to Derry first time they retained Ulster since the mid 70s."
They had a great chance of a goal at the end of the first period of extra time, and they took the easy point.

points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 241 - 14/05/2023 20:01:42    2478472

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Did you attend Dublin's Leinster Coronation this year? I feel sorry for Meath now, it's just a big Dublin suburb....full of Dubs and Dublin tops."
Why are you so defensive all the time? Always playing the man not the ball. Childish.

SimonstownBack (Meath) - Posts: 143 - 14/05/2023 20:09:13    2478475

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Replying To SimonstownBack:  "Why are you so defensive all the time? Always playing the man not the ball. Childish."
Absolutely.

He's ruined so many threads here down the years.

The chip on his shoulder is huge. Someone commented on the colour clash earlier, and rightly so, and he even had a pop over that with the only thing he can even think of.. oh leinster football bla bla....

For a man of his considerable years, one would expect a little more maturity.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6342 - 14/05/2023 20:17:19    2478480

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Monaghan should qualify for the last 12

Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 595 - 14/05/2023 20:17:26    2478481

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Replying To SimonstownBack:  "And yet for most of the match it was a snooze fest. The last 10 minutes of normal time through to the penalties glossed over a forgettable match. But it's still the most competitive competition. Well done Derry."
When Barcelona did their keep ball stuff, it was lauded as genius ...

What I can't stand is defending errors and cheap scores, big excitement for the ole ole brigade who want mistakes, adrenalin, lots of roaring and lots of scores, land all the hoof-it-up-the-pitch bores going on about "classics". I'm happy with low-scoring games and enjoy good passages of play and watching a good team working out how to break down a defence.

I've seen high scoring "thrillers" that everyone raves about, but to me they were just a mess of bad defending and cheap scores, like watching a college basketball game. Great for floating voters of course, the folks who want to be "entertained"; that's all it means to them - packaged, consumer product. You always have some half-cut yahoo roaring "let her in tae ****"; it's usually all he knows.

Since when was Gaelic football about entertainment? That's what movies are for. To me, football at county and especially at club level was about identity, and winning is all. Do not care less how the win was achieved, never have - close, one-sided, tactical, rip-roaring, makes no difference to me.

Main thing, as a neutral, it was CLOSE today. Some games are tactical, some games are shoot-outs. As a neutral, I'm happy watching either - *provided the game is competitive and that either team has a chance of winning it*.

You'll generally always get that in Ulster. And in Connacht. Munster and Leinster are very one-sided currently but who's to say it will always be that way? It's a huge over-reaction to propose scrapping the provincials just because a couple of teams are going through a purple patch. People need to take the long view on this. The GAA is supposed to be about tradition and identity. I like the provincial championships - Clones on Ulster final day is one of the most tribal places in Western Europe, and long may it continue.

points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 241 - 14/05/2023 20:25:02    2478482

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Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet:  "When Barcelona did their keep ball stuff, it was lauded as genius ...

What I can't stand is defending errors and cheap scores, big excitement for the ole ole brigade who want mistakes, adrenalin, lots of roaring and lots of scores, land all the hoof-it-up-the-pitch bores going on about "classics". I'm happy with low-scoring games and enjoy good passages of play and watching a good team working out how to break down a defence.

I've seen high scoring "thrillers" that everyone raves about, but to me they were just a mess of bad defending and cheap scores, like watching a college basketball game. Great for floating voters of course, the folks who want to be "entertained"; that's all it means to them - packaged, consumer product. You always have some half-cut yahoo roaring "let her in tae ****"; it's usually all he knows.

Since when was Gaelic football about entertainment? That's what movies are for. To me, football at county and especially at club level was about identity, and winning is all. Do not care less how the win was achieved, never have - close, one-sided, tactical, rip-roaring, makes no difference to me.

Main thing, as a neutral, it was CLOSE today. Some games are tactical, some games are shoot-outs. As a neutral, I'm happy watching either - *provided the game is competitive and that either team has a chance of winning it*.

You'll generally always get that in Ulster. And in Connacht. Munster and Leinster are very one-sided currently but who's to say it will always be that way? It's a huge over-reaction to propose scrapping the provincials just because a couple of teams are going through a purple patch. People need to take the long view on this. The GAA is supposed to be about tradition and identity. I like the provincial championships - Clones on Ulster final day is one of the most tribal places in Western Europe, and long may it continue."
Good post and I enjoy the Ulster championship I just felt this year it lacked the usual energy we've come to expect. Exciting finish absolutely just different from previous years. Just one opinion in a sea of opinions.

SimonstownBack (Meath) - Posts: 143 - 14/05/2023 20:47:34    2478484

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Replying To Jinxie:  "Absolutely.

He's ruined so many threads here down the years.

The chip on his shoulder is huge. Someone commented on the colour clash earlier, and rightly so, and he even had a pop over that with the only thing he can even think of.. oh leinster football bla bla....

For a man of his considerable years, one would expect a little more maturity."
I have no idea who this poster is re age etc it's just constant negativity and you can't have a perceived negative opinion about anything north of the border without them attacking where your from especially if it's Leinster. Bizarre.

SimonstownBack (Meath) - Posts: 143 - 14/05/2023 20:49:33    2478485

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Replying To Joxer:  "What has the Leinster final got to do with the Ulster Final. Are you going to tell us that your Dad's car is bigger than my Dad's car next? Very childish. Call it what it is instead of circling the Ulster wagons on anyone from another province who dares to question footballing quality. Close game yes, quality no."
Take the plank out of your own eye before you start criticising other provincial finals. The only people giving out about the Ulster final are Leinster people who haven't had a proper championship from the last time Louth were involved. Connacht, Munster and Ulster all different winners. I'll circle the wagons when anyone criticises Tyrone football and the same with Ulster. Everyone had their siesta today during Dublin's home win.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2014 - 14/05/2023 21:02:47    2478491

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Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet:  "When Barcelona did their keep ball stuff, it was lauded as genius ...

What I can't stand is defending errors and cheap scores, big excitement for the ole ole brigade who want mistakes, adrenalin, lots of roaring and lots of scores, land all the hoof-it-up-the-pitch bores going on about "classics". I'm happy with low-scoring games and enjoy good passages of play and watching a good team working out how to break down a defence.

I've seen high scoring "thrillers" that everyone raves about, but to me they were just a mess of bad defending and cheap scores, like watching a college basketball game. Great for floating voters of course, the folks who want to be "entertained"; that's all it means to them - packaged, consumer product. You always have some half-cut yahoo roaring "let her in tae ****"; it's usually all he knows.

Since when was Gaelic football about entertainment? That's what movies are for. To me, football at county and especially at club level was about identity, and winning is all. Do not care less how the win was achieved, never have - close, one-sided, tactical, rip-roaring, makes no difference to me.

Main thing, as a neutral, it was CLOSE today. Some games are tactical, some games are shoot-outs. As a neutral, I'm happy watching either - *provided the game is competitive and that either team has a chance of winning it*.

You'll generally always get that in Ulster. And in Connacht. Munster and Leinster are very one-sided currently but who's to say it will always be that way? It's a huge over-reaction to propose scrapping the provincials just because a couple of teams are going through a purple patch. People need to take the long view on this. The GAA is supposed to be about tradition and identity. I like the provincial championships - Clones on Ulster final day is one of the most tribal places in Western Europe, and long may it continue."
if you cant see any thing wrong with 30 players trying to play football in one third of the area of the pitch and 90 percent of passing consists of a fisted pass to a colleague beside you then you are easily entertained. There were no skills on display in Clones today just very fit players who have had their natural abilities destroyed by stats men and defensive coaching gone mad. yes it was a close match which kept the crowd interested but was some manure to watch. Unless there is a change in the rules ie each team should have to keep 4 players in their half of the field at all times and two points awarded for every score kicked outside the so called scoring zone that every team has become obsessed with trying to work the ball into the game is finished.imagine players practicing kicking long range points instead of the sideways manure they are at.

breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 454 - 14/05/2023 21:11:46    2478495

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Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet:  "When Barcelona did their keep ball stuff, it was lauded as genius ...

What I can't stand is defending errors and cheap scores, big excitement for the ole ole brigade who want mistakes, adrenalin, lots of roaring and lots of scores, land all the hoof-it-up-the-pitch bores going on about "classics". I'm happy with low-scoring games and enjoy good passages of play and watching a good team working out how to break down a defence.

I've seen high scoring "thrillers" that everyone raves about, but to me they were just a mess of bad defending and cheap scores, like watching a college basketball game. Great for floating voters of course, the folks who want to be "entertained"; that's all it means to them - packaged, consumer product. You always have some half-cut yahoo roaring "let her in tae ****"; it's usually all he knows.

Since when was Gaelic football about entertainment? That's what movies are for. To me, football at county and especially at club level was about identity, and winning is all. Do not care less how the win was achieved, never have - close, one-sided, tactical, rip-roaring, makes no difference to me.

Main thing, as a neutral, it was CLOSE today. Some games are tactical, some games are shoot-outs. As a neutral, I'm happy watching either - *provided the game is competitive and that either team has a chance of winning it*.

You'll generally always get that in Ulster. And in Connacht. Munster and Leinster are very one-sided currently but who's to say it will always be that way? It's a huge over-reaction to propose scrapping the provincials just because a couple of teams are going through a purple patch. People need to take the long view on this. The GAA is supposed to be about tradition and identity. I like the provincial championships - Clones on Ulster final day is one of the most tribal places in Western Europe, and long may it continue."
"One of the most tribal places in Western Europe" I take it you have never been to a Cork/ Tipperary Munster hurling final.

tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 274 - 14/05/2023 21:26:19    2478499

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