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With Munster & Leinster dead - should Kerry & Dublin play in Connacht with its Big 3? You could have an Ulster 5 & Connacht 5 (and two tiers below), similar to hurling's Munster 5 & Leinster 6 (and four tiers below). omahant (USA) - Posts: 2614 - 08/05/2023 02:14:55 2476588 Link 0 |
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No!
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1436 - 08/05/2023 10:28:03 2476641 Link 0 |
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No You can't have 23 teams vying for 5 spots v 9 teams vying for 5 spots, particularly with Dublin, Kerry, Galway, Mayo being better than the 4 best Ulster teams on average. If Provincial membership is being messed around with that much then the competition should be organised on a National basis. The hurling system kind of works for them (with some issues specifically as a result of a provincial element being attached) there's no reason to think it'd work in football. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4236 - 08/05/2023 10:34:46 2476645 Link 4 |
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The All Ireland should just be organised on a National basis. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4236 - 08/05/2023 10:57:39 2476650 Link 4 |
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No sure why you think that has any relevance to the topic? Some people on here can post on GAA without their own-county-tinted glasses on. Others then are at a level where they just lash out at the county after a poster's name. Takes all sorts I suppose. Maybe not showing the poster's county name would improve things. Greenfield (Meath) - Posts: 522 - 08/05/2023 10:59:30 2476651 Link 0 |
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They're relevant alright. 49-48 and ALL THAT. But they have to go to enhance this new structure. The current NFL competition followed by the upcoming competitions for Tailteann and Sam would be an ample diet of annual intercounty football imo. You'd have better championship group draws too, seeding them directly from the closing NFL standings, and using those same seedings to automatically draw the ko phase of the championship. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3452 - 08/05/2023 11:25:22 2476668 Link 0 |
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what would be so bad about ulster getting the easier route for a change?
armaghfan02 (Armagh) - Posts: 39 - 08/05/2023 11:25:48 2476669 Link 0 |
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The Provincial titles may be very relevant to the counties that don't have any, counties that have many are not included. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2908 - 08/05/2023 11:57:28 2476682 Link 0 |
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You can make a point to everything in life I reckon. Should the provincial championship have such a standing in the football season though? If it was working, I reckon this forums traffic would be reduced by 50% Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 08/05/2023 12:45:53 2476702 Link 0 |
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It'd be bad for the game overall. Fair competition is more engaging. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4236 - 08/05/2023 13:30:05 2476722 Link 4 |
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I remember Mayo v Galway Connacht finals having 30k plus at them. I think those days are long gone under the current championship system.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 08/05/2023 14:26:44 2476750 Link 4 |
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Took a while to get round to the current system but with a few tweaks it would work well, only provincial winners going through and only top 2 qualifying from group. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2017 - 08/05/2023 14:40:59 2476756 Link 5 |
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Hard to argue with Sean Cavanagh's assessment of the whole thing last night. If you are a division 1 county who have serious ambitions to win the All-Ireland, the GAA have engineered a season for you that consists of: A pre-season competition that doesn't matter A league campaign that doesn't matter A Provincial Championship that doesn't matter A group stage where one win should do A 3/4-game knockout competition to win Sam. And they want people to pay to watch all of these games that don't matter. Greenfield (Meath) - Posts: 522 - 08/05/2023 15:56:57 2476788 Link 1 |
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The only part of Leinster, Munster and connacht Championships that's been any good is the merry go round of who plays in the All Ireland and who's demoted to the tic toc cup.. Think of Clare and offaly matches. The impact of the New York win. Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 08/05/2023 15:59:29 2476790 Link 0 |
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What would your solution be? Did Seán Cavanagh propose an alternative of his own?
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 08/05/2023 16:20:53 2476795 Link 0 |
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There's a million different ways to organise the championship and none of them are perfect but the ratio of meaningless games to important games in a gaa season is shocking and probably unmatched in any sport anywhere else on earth. Some of the post provincial group stage games might have been tense but the decision to introduce "preliminary" quarter finals took care of that little problem. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1720 - 08/05/2023 17:05:17 2476813 Link 0 |
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What's wrong with 3 tiers of 12, 10 and 10 with the best teams moving on to playoffs and 2 up 2 down between tiers. Why does it have to be complicated. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4236 - 08/05/2023 17:16:59 2476820 Link 3 |
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It's a team sport, and not the only one on this planet. 95% of other teams sports around the world use the same format for their main competition, and never ever on a month on Sundays give out.. Maybe that's a good place to start! Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 08/05/2023 17:21:47 2476821 Link 0 |
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Have said it here before……make the league the main competition and run the other off as a straight knockout cup competition.
Greenfield (Meath) - Posts: 522 - 08/05/2023 19:44:11 2476870 Link 1 |
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I am not of a division 1 county, never have and probably never will be and that's the real problem. Because I am a realist I know I have no serious chance of winning the All Ireland, ever. There are 20 ish counties that doesn't fit the bigger picture, 8 more who have a fighting chance and the remaining 4 have a real chance of winning an all Ireland final. The Tailteann Cup is not a magic wand. I will go as far as saying it would be easier to win a provincial title than win the Tailteann Cup. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2908 - 08/05/2023 20:20:42 2476877 Link 0 |