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For fun, I ask how could the rules of Gaelic Football be changed to improve the game speed and entertainment value?''
1. Reduce the number of players on the field: One possible change would be to reduce the number of players on the field from 15 to 13 or even 11, which could lead to more open play and faster-paced action.
2. Modify the kick-out rule: The current kick-out rule, where the goalkeeper must kick the ball out beyond the 20-meter line, can slow down the game. One potential modification would be to allow the goalkeeper to kick the ball out to a designated area in the middle of the field, which would encourage quicker restarts and potentially more attacking play.
3. Introduce a shot clock: A shot clock could be introduced to encourage teams to take shots at goal within a certain time frame, which could help to speed up the game and make it more exciting.
4. Increase the value of goals: Currently, a goal is worth three points, and a point is worth one. However, increasing the value of goals to four or even five points could encourage more attacking play and make the game more exciting.
5. Allow more substitutes: Currently, each team is allowed to make only five substitutions per game. Allowing more substitutions could help to keep players fresh and potentially lead to faster-paced, higher-energy play.
6. Modify the tackle rule: The current tackle rule, where players must make a clean tackle or risk conceding a free kick, can slow down the game. Modifying the rule to allow more physicality could make the game more exciting and potentially lead to more turnovers and scoring opportunities.
Of course, any rule changes would need to be carefully considered to ensure they do not fundamentally alter the nature of the game or compromise player safety.
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TearsIn85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 194 - 07/04/2023 11:18:13
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7. Make the players wear blindfolds and put a bell inside the ball.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2481 - 07/04/2023 13:52:06
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Replying To TearsIn85: "For fun, I ask how could the rules of Gaelic Football be changed to improve the game speed and entertainment value?''
1. Reduce the number of players on the field: One possible change would be to reduce the number of players on the field from 15 to 13 or even 11, which could lead to more open play and faster-paced action.
2. Modify the kick-out rule: The current kick-out rule, where the goalkeeper must kick the ball out beyond the 20-meter line, can slow down the game. One potential modification would be to allow the goalkeeper to kick the ball out to a designated area in the middle of the field, which would encourage quicker restarts and potentially more attacking play.
3. Introduce a shot clock: A shot clock could be introduced to encourage teams to take shots at goal within a certain time frame, which could help to speed up the game and make it more exciting.
4. Increase the value of goals: Currently, a goal is worth three points, and a point is worth one. However, increasing the value of goals to four or even five points could encourage more attacking play and make the game more exciting.
5. Allow more substitutes: Currently, each team is allowed to make only five substitutions per game. Allowing more substitutions could help to keep players fresh and potentially lead to faster-paced, higher-energy play.
6. Modify the tackle rule: The current tackle rule, where players must make a clean tackle or risk conceding a free kick, can slow down the game. Modifying the rule to allow more physicality could make the game more exciting and potentially lead to more turnovers and scoring opportunities.
Of course, any rule changes would need to be carefully considered to ensure they do not fundamentally alter the nature of the game or compromise player safety.
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What do you think? Better than some of the suggestions on here? Remember, don't shoot the messenger!!" I can think of 5 straight away:-
Scrap the Mark
Scrap the palming a ball into the net
Ensure every team leave at least 2 players in the opposition half at all times, or at least outside their own 45.
Limit the amount of consecutive hand passes
Limit the amount of players allowed to tackle or surround a player to a 2 v 1
Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3738 - 07/04/2023 14:17:23
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Maybe look at reducing the amount of Hand Passing, the use of the Foot seems to be a dying art.
St.Mologga (Cork) - Posts: 109 - 07/04/2023 16:26:36
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Replying To St.Mologga: "Maybe look at reducing the amount of Hand Passing, the use of the Foot seems to be a dying art." The better teams use it to effect against weaker opposition but tend to revert to a more conservative approach later in the year. It was effective last week for Dublin whose kick passes were more than twice Derry's.
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2584 - 07/04/2023 18:33:55
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It would totally change the way the game is played - and should be trialled first - it is the "Joe Brolly Exclusion Zone".
Essentially, to counter the blanket defense, Joe argues that no defender should be in an area around his own goal without marking an attacking player. So, for example, if all forwards move out of the zone, defenders would have to as well leaving the zone empty (apart from the goal keeper). Once the ball enters the zone, everyone is allowed in, marked or not. I think it's interesting - and worth a trial.
Joe's Exclusion Zone, however, is arching making it more difficult to police. I'd make it a rectangle, bordered by both sidelines, the goal line and a new broken line out field, say at 33m (halfway between the 20 and 45).
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2621 - 07/04/2023 20:30:12
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Replying To Fionn: "I can think of 5 straight away:-
Scrap the Mark
Scrap the palming a ball into the net
Ensure every team leave at least 2 players in the opposition half at all times, or at least outside their own 45.
Limit the amount of consecutive hand passes
Limit the amount of players allowed to tackle or surround a player to a 2 v 1" True but what some coaches will say but this will suit bigger team's etc Kerry dubs mayo who try to play football
Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 220 - 07/04/2023 20:57:48
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These threads tend to really annoy me.
The full impact of some of these rules are never thought through.
Reducing the number of players to 11 or 13 for instance would not help the game.
There'd just be more blow out results which realistically are some of the worst spectacles we ever see.
The biggest issue with the game in recent years hasn't been to do with the rules. When we get 2 evenly enough matched teams we can get some wonderful games.
The issue is that there are just too few games of meaning between tops teams or evenly matched teams.
Maybe the new format will help increase that. I'm not sure though as the group stage is a bit low risk with 3 teams going through. Top teams are going to be kept apart still because of the seeding and the field being split into 4 groups.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4241 - 07/04/2023 21:32:50
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Replying To omahant: "It would totally change the way the game is played - and should be trialled first - it is the "Joe Brolly Exclusion Zone".
Essentially, to counter the blanket defense, Joe argues that no defender should be in an area around his own goal without marking an attacking player. So, for example, if all forwards move out of the zone, defenders would have to as well leaving the zone empty (apart from the goal keeper). Once the ball enters the zone, everyone is allowed in, marked or not. I think it's interesting - and worth a trial.
Joe's Exclusion Zone, however, is arching making it more difficult to police. I'd make it a rectangle, bordered by both sidelines, the goal line and a new broken line out field, say at 33m (halfway between the 20 and 45)." Remember a few years ago Joe suggested making players line up in their positions for kick out. It's basically like we see for for the throw ins. More than any other rule change this is the one I would like to see how it would play out . Obviously it would need a bit of definition (I'm guessing full forward line is inside 14 yard line, half forward line between 14 and the 40 etc.)
While teams got used to it this rule it would have caused issues policing it but once it became the norm I think it would promote proper Gaelic football (ie more kicking, return Gaelic football to be a non possession based game).
Maybe if we changed the rules a bit around the tackle, re-balancing it a bit more in favour of the tackler this would make the possession game less effective (I would like to see this trialed as I know this may have a positive or negative impact, I could see it leading to much more breakdowns in possession hanpassing movements that teams do now (making them a less effective way to play the game) but it could either lead to teams leaving more players forward so to have more options to kick the ball in to or it could see teams leaving more players back as tackling would be easier)
Even though I I like kicking I don't like the mark, particularly the attacking mark. Gaelic football should not be a stop-start game.
GreenMan1987 (Meath) - Posts: 38 - 08/04/2023 11:02:14
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Replying To Whammo86: "These threads tend to really annoy me.
The full impact of some of these rules are never thought through.
Reducing the number of players to 11 or 13 for instance would not help the game.
There'd just be more blow out results which realistically are some of the worst spectacles we ever see.
The biggest issue with the game in recent years hasn't been to do with the rules. When we get 2 evenly enough matched teams we can get some wonderful games.
The issue is that there are just too few games of meaning between tops teams or evenly matched teams.
Maybe the new format will help increase that. I'm not sure though as the group stage is a bit low risk with 3 teams going through. Top teams are going to be kept apart still because of the seeding and the field being split into 4 groups." Agreed these rule change ideas are often illthought imo.
It doesn't take much thinking to see that limiting handpassing or a shot clock work in favour of teams playing a blanket defence.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 08/04/2023 11:37:10
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Defenders are not allowed to tackle any more forward solo inti contact fall over free in joke
highdropingball (Donegal) - Posts: 99 - 08/04/2023 11:42:13
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Handpass all day long if you want - but can't handpass forwards. End of.
Relatively simple and would transform the game from the abomination it is now. Instant reaction when I first heard this was that it was crazy, but think it through and it makes complete sense. You can still handpass to a man coming off the shoulder to make progress - but teams would adjust as they realise kicking the ball is the primary means of moving the ball ( as the game is supposed to be).
It wouldn't be all 'hoofing' the ball as teams would need fast players to hit diagonal ball into space or big men for high balls - its far more exciting (like hurling) when you see players racing to a ball, or competing for a ball - it gets the crowd going. You cant cheer a frickin' handpass.
( Its an embarrassment at times to watch a match with players basically throwing the ball up and down the pitch).
Solo_Run (Leitrim) - Posts: 209 - 08/04/2023 12:29:48
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Very interesting thread.
I think outlawing two consecutive hand passes in both hurling and football would have a massive positive effect. Teams would be forced to move the ball quicker to allow time for a foot pass (or stick pass in hurling).
I think that would naturally lead to more turnovers and would reduce cynical tackling because teams would just need to close down their opponents to apply pressure rather than pulling or dragging.
slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 08/04/2023 13:02:06
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If I'm not mistaken I think limiting hand passes was tried in some trial games before and was a disaster. It's why it's never been implemented in spite of it being given as the "obvious" solution.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4241 - 08/04/2023 13:41:45
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Replying To Whammo86: "If I'm not mistaken I think limiting hand passes was tried in some trial games before and was a disaster. It's why it's never been implemented in spite of it being given as the "obvious" solution." I recall watching a Connacht Minor League game between Ros and Sligo where a 3 handpass rule was trialed.
It certainly wasn't a disaster.
We need to eradicate handball from the game starting with the throw points and palmed goals,followed by some/many restrictions on the handpass.
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1443 - 08/04/2023 14:27:33
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Replying To GreenMan1987: "Remember a few years ago Joe suggested making players line up in their positions for kick out. It's basically like we see for for the throw ins. More than any other rule change this is the one I would like to see how it would play out . Obviously it would need a bit of definition (I'm guessing full forward line is inside 14 yard line, half forward line between 14 and the 40 etc.)
While teams got used to it this rule it would have caused issues policing it but once it became the norm I think it would promote proper Gaelic football (ie more kicking, return Gaelic football to be a non possession based game).
Maybe if we changed the rules a bit around the tackle, re-balancing it a bit more in favour of the tackler this would make the possession game less effective (I would like to see this trialed as I know this may have a positive or negative impact, I could see it leading to much more breakdowns in possession hanpassing movements that teams do now (making them a less effective way to play the game) but it could either lead to teams leaving more players forward so to have more options to kick the ball in to or it could see teams leaving more players back as tackling would be easier)
Even though I I like kicking I don't like the mark, particularly the attacking mark. Gaelic football should not be a stop-start game." Players limited to their own space on the field would be a joke, player soloing up the field and has to stop in case he goes out of bounds, too much emphasis on kick passing would turn the game into a lottery with who gives the ball away the least. Game is fine, maybe do away with fisted points and palmed goals, the forward mark and take frees from the exact place of foul. No stealing yards, watch over the weekend to see all teams steal yardage.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2017 - 08/04/2023 15:08:32
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Replying To Saynothing: "Players limited to their own space on the field would be a joke, player soloing up the field and has to stop in case he goes out of bounds, too much emphasis on kick passing would turn the game into a lottery with who gives the ball away the least. Game is fine, maybe do away with fisted points and palmed goals, the forward mark and take frees from the exact place of foul. No stealing yards, watch over the weekend to see all teams steal yardage." Easy way to deal with free takers stealing yards. Implement the free as in Australian rules. The person who commits the foul stands his ground where the foul has been committed the freetaker can the go back as far as he likes to take free. Person who is fouled takes the free immediately.
Gillo (UK) - Posts: 5 - 08/04/2023 15:55:11
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do away with the forward mark for a start
Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2845 - 08/04/2023 16:01:52
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Replying To TearsIn85: "For fun, I ask how could the rules of Gaelic Football be changed to improve the game speed and entertainment value?''
1. Reduce the number of players on the field: One possible change would be to reduce the number of players on the field from 15 to 13 or even 11, which could lead to more open play and faster-paced action.
2. Modify the kick-out rule: The current kick-out rule, where the goalkeeper must kick the ball out beyond the 20-meter line, can slow down the game. One potential modification would be to allow the goalkeeper to kick the ball out to a designated area in the middle of the field, which would encourage quicker restarts and potentially more attacking play.
3. Introduce a shot clock: A shot clock could be introduced to encourage teams to take shots at goal within a certain time frame, which could help to speed up the game and make it more exciting.
4. Increase the value of goals: Currently, a goal is worth three points, and a point is worth one. However, increasing the value of goals to four or even five points could encourage more attacking play and make the game more exciting.
5. Allow more substitutes: Currently, each team is allowed to make only five substitutions per game. Allowing more substitutions could help to keep players fresh and potentially lead to faster-paced, higher-energy play.
6. Modify the tackle rule: The current tackle rule, where players must make a clean tackle or risk conceding a free kick, can slow down the game. Modifying the rule to allow more physicality could make the game more exciting and potentially lead to more turnovers and scoring opportunities.
Of course, any rule changes would need to be carefully considered to ensure they do not fundamentally alter the nature of the game or compromise player safety.
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Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 08/04/2023 16:20:25
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Replying To Saynothing: "Players limited to their own space on the field would be a joke, player soloing up the field and has to stop in case he goes out of bounds, too much emphasis on kick passing would turn the game into a lottery with who gives the ball away the least. Game is fine, maybe do away with fisted points and palmed goals, the forward mark and take frees from the exact place of foul. No stealing yards, watch over the weekend to see all teams steal yardage." Yeah these seem like small but sensible changes.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4241 - 08/04/2023 17:24:14
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