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tiobraid, Breen deserved a red for kicking Bennett.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 817 - 13/03/2023 14:32:55 2463733 Link 1 |
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I'd imagine there was previous though. Which was most likely pointed out by the sideline. I thought ref handled a good tough game well enough. Would love to know all the same what he did to earn such special attention! Did himself and Cahill fall out when he was there? BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2525 - 13/03/2023 15:38:19 2463745 Link 0 |
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Tiobraid you are an honest poster. There were high tackles on both side but the one given to Pendergast was a direct run from behind by the Tipp player at him with no intent to play the ball and straight to the head. We had Waterford players with their helmets knocked off from tackles that a few years ago you would be red carded.If you are okay with a player getting kicked that you have moved into a different sphere. What his leg wasn't broken ? Is that criteria ? Okay you will be fine with players getting kicked going forward as part of the game. The Waterford boys make sure Jake Morris gets a kick to slow him down the next day. Absurd. Tipp were the better team Saturday but their tactics were disgusting and the officiating allowed the worst, nasty, illegal stuff that I have seen for many, many years. I guarantee if I see this from Waterford or anyone else I will be on here calling it out. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 13/03/2023 16:28:16 2463762 Link 0 |
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You have reached a conclusion that most would as to where the instruction for the targeting came from. Players do get assigned to mark players and that is okay within the rules. There was nothing within the rules as to the treatment of Bennett and you are wrong the officials were totally negligent, failing to protect the player in this instant. It will be interesting when the teams meet in May. If Waterford take retribution they will be the dirtiest team ever played the game. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 13/03/2023 16:41:38 2463766 Link 0 |
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Tiobraid you are an honest poster. There were high tackles on both side but the one given to Pendergast was a direct run from behind by the Tipp player at him with no intent to play the ball and straight to the head. We had Waterford players with their helmets knocked off from tackles that a few years ago you would be red carded.If you are okay with a player getting kicked that you have moved into a different sphere. What his leg wasn't broken ? Is that criteria ? Okay you will be fine with players getting kicked going forward as part of the game. The Waterford boys make sure Jake Morris gets a kick to slow him down the next day. Absurd. Tipp were the better team Saturday but their tactics were disgusting and the officiating allowed the worst, nasty, illegal stuff that I have seen for many, many years. I guarantee if I see this from Waterford or anyone else I will be on here calling it out. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 13/03/2023 16:43:06 2463767 Link 0 |
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Dead right Canuck,very disappointing carry on from Tipperary Saturday,and as for people saying he didn't really kick him,a kick is a kick,as I was always told going onto the pitch if your going to do it do it hard,because according to the rulebook a tip or a full blown wallop the same result applys,a red card,the intent is der.......
Fkd12 (Louth) - Posts: 147 - 13/03/2023 17:03:17 2463770 Link 0 |
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Well, your first point is pretty plain. I'd be curious as to the origins of it?
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2525 - 13/03/2023 17:18:34 2463773 Link 0 |
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I genuinely feel you're overstating what happened. Go back to the 2008 semi final for how special treatment was handed out to Tipp. That was on a whole different level and I never complained about that - I complained Tipp didn't stand up to them. I genuinely don't feel there was real a kick. There's an argument to say Bennett stamped on breen before that but I've played a lot of games where these things happen multiple times in games. It's complete harmless stuff in my opinion. I'm not sure if I was watching a different game to others but I thought there a complete lack of man marking and any real aggression on Saturday. The camera didn't show the Barron incident so I can't comment but I was disappointed he got sent off because I felt Waterford was our only test in the league so far given Kk completely threw the Tipp game. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 13/03/2023 18:06:02 2463781 Link 0 |
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Any need for the CCCC to get involved with unsavoury incidents over the weekend? daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1125 - 13/03/2023 19:09:24 2463791 Link 0 |
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BarneyGrant I have no proof that this was the case but Bennett was targeted for some reason by Breen and others. It is difficult to think that the Tipp players made a decision on their own to do this. Liam could come out and say if he did or did not. That won't happen because he will also deny the targeting. I am wondering how Tony Browne feels about this as he knows well what it is to be targeted. He should step down and return to Waterford over the treatment dished out to fellow county men on Saturday night.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 13/03/2023 20:48:29 2463807 Link 0 |
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BarneyGrant I have no proof that this was the case but Bennett was targeted for some reason by Breen and others. It is difficult to think that the Tipp players made a decision on their own to do this. Liam could come out and say if he did or did not. That won't happen because he will also deny the targeting. I am wondering how Tony Browne feels about this as he knows well what it is to be targeted. He should step down and return to Waterford over the treatment dished out to fellow county men on Saturday night.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 13/03/2023 21:03:26 2463811 Link 0 |
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Maybe I'm wrong but if Clare and Galway win this week and Limerick lose,the three teams will on 6 points,so goes to scoring difference.
cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 13/03/2023 21:08:49 2463814 Link 0 |
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Canuck youre a knowledgeable poster but when it comes to Waterford I feel you do have your blue and white glasses on. Did you come out as strong in 2008 against your own team in the 2008 semi and All Ireland finals? I have very clear memories of Seamus Prendergast up ending Conor O'Mahony before the ball was thrown in and Eoin Murphy trying the same with Eddie Brennan in the final - along with multiple others. These two stood out tho as I dont think it was their style and its widely agreed that was a Waterford tactic and one that backfired in the final. The likes of Brick was at the same and he definitely wasnt that type of player. What happened on Saturday was nothing like that in my opinion and no one was target for special treatment. Bennett was target for extra attention no doubt as hes your main scoring forward in my opinion. I genuinely feel this is a non issue. There was nothing anyway dangerous in that game. Most of it was like a game of tennis it was so loose. Ps. Ye can have Browne if we can get Kelly back... :-D tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 14/03/2023 12:10:02 2463862 Link 0 |
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O come on now we are into the semantics of what is a real kick. Leave me make it easy for you. He came from behind Bennett propelled his foot forward and struck him with his foot on the leg. There was no measuring device to calculate the force but that is not required as kicking a player is against the rules and a red card is the punishment. It is causing or attempting to cause injury to an opponent. Next you are going to tell me it is okay to swing at a guys head with your stick as long as you don't make contact. Everyone in the stadium saw it including two of the officials and neglected taking the correct action. End of story. Incidentally Jamie Barron did strike out in retaliation and rightly got a red card. His influence on the game required he got some extra attention also.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 14/03/2023 13:04:46 2463878 Link 0 |
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I have criticized Waterford players when I feel it is deserved. You need to be able to do the same and clearly admit what should happen when you kick a player. We are way behind Tipp in All-Irelands and also way behind them in the number of players they have injured. In fact so is everyone else.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 14/03/2023 13:15:09 2463880 Link 0 |
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https://youtu.be/Piv7_qYmH_U Everyone in the stadium say it? No they didn't. There's 4 parts to that incident if you ask me. Bennett walking on Breen's toes, Breen kicking out (we don't know if contact was made), Bennett taking a ridiculous dive and Bennett asking for Breen to be sent off. Bennett is my favourite Waterford hurler and I'm not going to criticise him and I still say it's a complete non incident that happens all the time. You can't compare a head high tackle to that. Hurling can be a dangerous sport and I know full well you can see nothing dangerous in that tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 15/03/2023 07:29:21 2463965 Link 0 |
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Seems to way and if that was the case then Clare will have a better score difference than Limerick. Galway have a big score difference to make up but it wouldnt be impossible if Limerick were to lose. With all due respect to Wexford but if Limerick lose at home then theyre throwing that game. Given the panel they have this season I dont see that happening somehow but its an interesting game as I think Wexford def go full strength while Limerick prob wont. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 15/03/2023 12:32:58 2464011 Link 0 |
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Unfortunately have to agree that Limerick losing to Wexford would be unexpected, to say the least. And the number of injuries we have means that we won't be at full strength. Maybe full strength of what's available to us, but definitely not full strength in the way we'd like to be. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2229 - 15/03/2023 12:49:59 2464020 Link 1 |
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Canuck, Can you tell me who might well be missing this weekend? We are still short our 4 all stars, not sure we have replaced Mikey Carey, Conor Browne isn't a phenomenal hirler, but his athleticism is a loss too. KKid (Kilkenny) - Posts: 418 - 15/03/2023 13:12:18 2464026 Link 0 |
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Is Richie Leahy till kicking about on the panel or has he been shown the door?
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1898 - 15/03/2023 15:47:13 2464068 Link 0 |