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Ya also doon/ahane.looking at results in all grades,Mungret seem to be on the up..juniors are also flying..I'm also surprised to see some big defeats for clubs in intermediate groups,where Croagh are flying again this year..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2308 - 19/09/2023 16:25:17    2504840

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Ya also doon/ahane.looking at results in all grades,Mungret seem to be on the up..juniors are also flying..I'm also surprised to see some big defeats for clubs in intermediate groups,where Croagh are flying again this year.."
Mungret like monaleen have the numbers both players and administrators and will be in senior hurling finals in the near future . Rural clubs won't compete at senior hurling in the years ahead unless they join up .
Standard intermediate looks like a Croagh v Ballingarry final which would draw a big crowd unless knockainey come up with a surprise.

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 699 - 19/09/2023 17:00:53    2504848

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Agree that it is going to be very difficult for rural clubs to compete going forward. There has been very little rural housing developments and one off houses being built in rural areas in the last 15-20 years while the populations of areas like Mungret, Monaleen, Caherdavin etc have grown. Amalgamations at juvenile level have also grown which will ultimately leave clubs having to join at Adult level down the line.

journeyman (Limerick) - Posts: 130 - 25/09/2023 15:25:59    2505655

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I've mentioned to friends that it looks like the 3 clubs mentioned will end up being super clubs not to unlike what is seen in Dublin..all 3 have huge populations to pick from and will nearly always benefit from picking up players coming into the city..it's going to make it very difficult for smaller clubs to keep an identity and compete..I'm not knocking the bigger clubs but population definitely helps.

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2308 - 25/09/2023 16:28:31    2505677

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Theres 47 Clubs playing Hurling In Limerick , too many. Some of the big clubs have 3 teams but the lesser clubs are doing well to have one and that team finds it hard to compete with the stronger clubs. Some clubs like Knockainey & Dromin Athlacca are defying the population logic but many others are struggling . Populations in clubs further away from the city particulary in the West of the county are getting less populated with each passing year . The players that are in these clubs lose interest never winning anything and give up or turn to football or soccer which is easier win something in for half the effort.
Newcastle West Rugby have the top Junior Rugby club in Munster but would have players from Newcastle West and 5 or 6 surrounding parishs playing with them. Should there be a Newcastle West & District Hurling club and other similar enteties created . The catholic Parishes the gaa was created on are now becoming Clusters of 3/4 old parishs together , maybe the clubs should follow suit and play for your cluster rather than your parish and have a decent team that can compete with the hope of winning something .

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 699 - 26/09/2023 09:32:18    2505743

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Any chance of a shock in one of quarter finals at weekend??to me it looks like the big 4 teams again..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2308 - 27/09/2023 14:34:40    2506009

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Any chance of a shock in one of quarter finals at weekend??to me it looks like the big 4 teams again.."
Think mungret will beat Doon.

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 783 - 27/09/2023 18:55:28    2506042

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Replying To OpenStand:  "Theres 47 Clubs playing Hurling In Limerick , too many. Some of the big clubs have 3 teams but the lesser clubs are doing well to have one and that team finds it hard to compete with the stronger clubs. Some clubs like Knockainey & Dromin Athlacca are defying the population logic but many others are struggling . Populations in clubs further away from the city particulary in the West of the county are getting less populated with each passing year . The players that are in these clubs lose interest never winning anything and give up or turn to football or soccer which is easier win something in for half the effort.
Newcastle West Rugby have the top Junior Rugby club in Munster but would have players from Newcastle West and 5 or 6 surrounding parishs playing with them. Should there be a Newcastle West & District Hurling club and other similar enteties created . The catholic Parishes the gaa was created on are now becoming Clusters of 3/4 old parishs together , maybe the clubs should follow suit and play for your cluster rather than your parish and have a decent team that can compete with the hope of winning something ."
Fully agree,just look at the city,on the north side and nothing against na piarsaigh,we have one team ,we have monaleen and mungret now with huge population and then have 4 inner city clubs in one area,it's easy to tell clubs join together but when children from the area of the four small inner city clubs are allowed join the big clubs is wrong.

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 783 - 27/09/2023 19:00:49    2506043

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Replying To journeyman:  "Agree that it is going to be very difficult for rural clubs to compete going forward. There has been very little rural housing developments and one off houses being built in rural areas in the last 15-20 years while the populations of areas like Mungret, Monaleen, Caherdavin etc have grown. Amalgamations at juvenile level have also grown which will ultimately leave clubs having to join at Adult level down the line."
When young players living in the St Patrick's, Claughaun,Old Christians, ballinacurra area are allowed transfer and join the likes of mungret, monaleen and na piarsaigh, nothing against the three clubs they are doing what is right but the county board have turned a blind eye to it and trying their best to force the 4 small clubs to join together.

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 783 - 27/09/2023 19:07:10    2506044

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It will be in limericks best interest if some of the large population grown is translated into young people playing gaa.
Players making it through to the top level from all clubs will come through the academy. If you're good enough you'll make it.

Sugary_tae (Limerick) - Posts: 70 - 27/09/2023 21:12:02    2506051

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On the all star nominations,it's tough on gearoid but probably a right decision..huge question on young hurler nominations,how did cahal o neill not make the final 3..he was huge for limerick in the championship run..I'm expecting limerick to receive 7..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2308 - 28/09/2023 10:52:41    2506083

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Replying To cityman73:  "Fully agree,just look at the city,on the north side and nothing against na piarsaigh,we have one team ,we have monaleen and mungret now with huge population and then have 4 inner city clubs in one area,it's easy to tell clubs join together but when children from the area of the four small inner city clubs are allowed join the big clubs is wrong."
Interesting point about the growth in suburban clubs in Limerick City, while city based clubs struggle compete, ie Claughan, the home of the Hartigans , Limerick hurling stars of the past.
That problem applies to a lesser extent in Offaly, as the population of the county's western half declines, some clubs in West Offaly find it hard to field teams. There is a population increase in the eastern half of the county, clubs around Tullamore are able to successfully compete in the championships. The local sports media have commented on the population changes.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1830 - 28/09/2023 11:50:18    2506096

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Replying To thelongridge:  "Interesting point about the growth in suburban clubs in Limerick City, while city based clubs struggle compete, ie Claughan, the home of the Hartigans , Limerick hurling stars of the past.
That problem applies to a lesser extent in Offaly, as the population of the county's western half declines, some clubs in West Offaly find it hard to field teams. There is a population increase in the eastern half of the county, clubs around Tullamore are able to successfully compete in the championships. The local sports media have commented on the population changes."
Pat Hartigan hurled with South Liberties and Bernie hurled with Old Christians. Claughaun was home to the Cregans, Mick and Eamonn.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2050 - 28/09/2023 16:48:33    2506147

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Replying To thelongridge:  "Interesting point about the growth in suburban clubs in Limerick City, while city based clubs struggle compete, ie Claughan, the home of the Hartigans , Limerick hurling stars of the past.
That problem applies to a lesser extent in Offaly, as the population of the county's western half declines, some clubs in West Offaly find it hard to field teams. There is a population increase in the eastern half of the county, clubs around Tullamore are able to successfully compete in the championships. The local sports media have commented on the population changes."
The Hartigans never played with Claughaun. Pat played with South Liberties as did Seamus and Bernie was with Old Christians. Claughaun had many players however, like Eamon and Mickey Cregan, Mickey Graham, Mike Gilligan among a host of other greats down the decades.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4418 - 28/09/2023 23:57:55    2506173

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "The Hartigans never played with Claughaun. Pat played with South Liberties as did Seamus and Bernie was with Old Christians. Claughaun had many players however, like Eamon and Mickey Cregan, Mickey Graham, Mike Gilligan among a host of other greats down the decades."
Thanks for clarifying that issue about the Hartigans Oldtourman. Are there any clubs in County Limerick amalgamating to field teams at adult level?

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1830 - 29/09/2023 11:36:01    2506221

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Interesting to hear information that two of what people are calling future super(bigger)clubs taking under 14 teams to portugal next Easter..it's advertised as warm weather training and training like professionals..how are other clubs to compete with this??should croke park get involved in stuff like this at under age level??

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2308 - 30/09/2023 20:47:20    2506405

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Interesting to hear information that two of what people are calling future super(bigger)clubs taking under 14 teams to portugal next Easter..it's advertised as warm weather training and training like professionals..how are other clubs to compete with this??should croke park get involved in stuff like this at under age level??"
Maybe at Underage level there should be a Elite Superclub Hurling competition in Limerick created for Na Piarsaigh, Monaleen & Mungret , play each other home and away and have top 2 in final each year .
The vast majority of clubs in Limerick havent a hope of competiting particulary underage with the resources, players & Volunteer numbers the 3 city clubs have. In time to come Limericks three city clubs could link with the Dublin Super Clubs Kilmacud, Ballyboden etc for a national underage league . Other city superclubs like Ballygunner in Waterford might be another potential team for that league .

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 699 - 01/10/2023 16:33:26    2506460

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I think there's two ways of looking at this. Firstly I've no issue with any club becoming successful so if a couple of massive housing developments go into any parish of course you want to convert this to playing numbers and hopefully successful teams. And eventually county players. No club has a right to success. If a high population club don't do it correctly you'll have a split In the club and an other club forming . we've a poor conversation of population into hurlers in the city so anything that makes players stay involved shouldn't be frowned upon. I know these under age players will have similiar trips for rugby and soccer so you have to be competitive. I might be a culchie but the demographics of the country will be very urban based in the future. I'd rather they played gaa than losing them to other sports. (Not that I'd have an issue with a child trying all sports to see what they like)

However I'm not at all comfortable with any parents being asked to pay. Gaa has always been community based. Didn't matter whether a family was Rich or poor….what mattered more was were they community driven to get stuck in and help out.
Secondly I would be absolutely terrified with trying to mind and manage a group of young lads or ladies of this age overseas for a week. You'd be doing very well to avoid the horrors of drunk teenagers I. Your care.

Sugary_tae (Limerick) - Posts: 70 - 01/10/2023 19:15:12    2506493

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Replying To OpenStand:  "Maybe at Underage level there should be a Elite Superclub Hurling competition in Limerick created for Na Piarsaigh, Monaleen & Mungret , play each other home and away and have top 2 in final each year .
The vast majority of clubs in Limerick havent a hope of competiting particulary underage with the resources, players & Volunteer numbers the 3 city clubs have. In time to come Limericks three city clubs could link with the Dublin Super Clubs Kilmacud, Ballyboden etc for a national underage league . Other city superclubs like Ballygunner in Waterford might be another potential team for that league ."
Is this for real? Have Monaleen, Nap or Mungret been the only teams to contest underage finals over the last few years? In fact, I'd say from u12-21, these 3 teams have not dominated any age grade over the last 5 years (open to correction on this?).

Regarding the foreign trip I personally think its ridiculous especially for u14s and puts unfair pressure on families. There's probably no unfair advantage over other teams - underage teams always over the county go on away trips to other counties, the only difference here is its farther away? Its not as if "warm weather training" will have any particular benefit for u14s?

It should be noted that the outrage on issues like this always seems to be worse when its GAA - club soccer teams (even at younger ages) and rugby teams regularly go abroad on trips and will train / play games but it never seems to get any attention.

McFan88 (Limerick) - Posts: 447 - 02/10/2023 12:44:02    2506609

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Even if those 3 teams were dominating underage what of it. I'm not connected to any of them but nothing wrong with any club maximising the potential within the parish bounds. The more players of quality coming through the better for all. Large portions of the city have been underexposed to hurling for years

Sugary_tae (Limerick) - Posts: 70 - 02/10/2023 20:49:45    2506699

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