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And if Clare or Waterford for that matter are out of the championship next week end there is a bigger percentage chance that a team or teams will be in who would not be as good as them. That is just how the new system throws up things. The problem I see for us is if we continue to fail to advance our standard will go down. Players will not be interested in the commitment of inter county to be out in a week. I know it will be said that is up to ourselves to improve but it does not do anything for the game to have Waterford or Clare decline let alone having the second tier teams come up. Time to scrap the league and run one proper championship league. The championship is now a half baked league that does not put the top teams in the right order. If provinces want their own championships go ahead and run them. The McCarthy cup is a national completion and the playing field should be level for all counties.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3035 - 24/04/2023 17:40:12 2473406 Link 0 |
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Viking I'd agree on getting rid of semis..let the top team in 1a and 1b play final..if that was this year am I right in saying league final would have been Tipp/cork.? CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2507 - 24/04/2023 17:40:50 2473407 Link 0 |
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What I said is 100% true not made up like a lot of your stuff.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 899 - 24/04/2023 18:43:41 2473434 Link 1 |
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Tbh I already can't remember: D
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15700 - 24/04/2023 19:14:18 2473450 Link 0 |
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Not necessarily Canuck, last year Cork lost their two games and were still in at post Munster and Limerick won a Munster Final in '19 after losing two games. I would have great hopes of Waterford progressing out of Munster yet.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 24/04/2023 21:06:31 2473483 Link 0 |
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See my reply to Canuck. Limerick could have won the All Ireland in '19 despite two defeats and Cork went on to the next stage, despite two defeats last year.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 24/04/2023 21:10:53 2473484 Link 0 |
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Making stuff up? Right let's go through this you clearly got put out with my 2021 discipline remark, that year Limerick should have got 3 straight reds in 4 championship games, Hegarty for a dangerous head high challenge v Cork, Gillane for the swipe back in the Munster Final and Cian Lynch in the final for dumping Tim O'Mahony on his head UFC style when the game was already long over to be fair. We saw none of this nonsense in 2022 and ye still won the All Ireland without Lynch and Peter Casey, yesterday was even worse than any of the 2021 games, I'm really fascinated for you to point out which part of this made up.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 24/04/2023 22:17:00 2473506 Link 0 |
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Bit rich coming from Wexford of all counties, the Wexford team of 1996 will never be surpassed in terms of hatchet men playing in croke park.
OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 741 - 25/04/2023 09:33:28 2473565 Link 1 |
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Gonna be a serious match this Saturday. Colm lyons down to ref and he did a great job in the AI final last year. Hannon won't be available with a groin issue so Dan to 6 and Mike to 3 will be the move. Dan doesn't have the same fluidity as hannon but no one in the game does and Dan will be just fine there. Tony Kelly won't be man marked which people can debate about. His last 3 championship matches he's been a spectator so I expect him to be more involved Saturday. I wonder will kiely be tempted to make a change or two. One may be enforced with a potential ban for Flanagan which I wouldn't agree with and I'd imagine would be appealed. I've seen an awful lot worse this year already but the focus is always firmly on the champions. I think kiely will back Hegarty to bounce back and lead this team Saturday evening. Cathal o neill is pushing really hard inside and David Reidy is going really well also. daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 25/04/2023 10:15:05 2473580 Link 1 |
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Ya all fair points. I certainly don't dispute any of this. One thing I would say is alot of the forums have people,not including yourself in this, jumping up and down about Limerick's physicality and how awful and dirty they are. The reality is they play a good hard brand of hurling, and sure on occasion tackles are mistimed, but that to me is the extent of it. I think alot of the posters, particularly on the boards website haven't a clue what they've talking about and at times get quite overboard in their posts. It's high time to get back to the hurling. Got help us all when Limerick and Clare collide. Boards.ie will sure self combust Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 374 - 25/04/2023 10:19:16 2473582 Link 0 |
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Yeah wouldn't dispute much of that either, will be interesting to see if ye bite the bullet with Tony Kelly and actually put a specific man marker on him, his last 3 championship outings he's been well curtailed by Shane Reck, Mikey Butler and Cathal Barrett. Based on Sunday Aidan McCarthy will taker alot of minding too.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 25/04/2023 11:06:14 2473619 Link 0 |
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Any ex player you talk to from any county or listen to admire limerick for what they are. Better hurlers, better physically better mentally than anything we've seen before. Any posters focusing on a particular area have either not played at the highest level or just don't really know what it takes to play compete and win at the highest level of hurling. Limerick focus on themselves and always will. Noise is what it is. Noise
daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 25/04/2023 11:21:52 2473625 Link 1 |
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Why was Kiely so upset about the "noise"???? LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 412 - 25/04/2023 12:08:57 2473656 Link 0 |
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Basically there was a media narrative last week of 'sure might aswel give Limerick the trophy now their so far ahead of the pack', obviously he feels that's BS.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 25/04/2023 12:34:25 2473672 Link 0 |
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There are loads of incidents in every championship where officials make wrong decisions eg. Jamie Barron punched Hegarty in semi-final in 2019, Lynch was tackled head high 2 or 3 times in Munster final that year. In AI final Downey tried to do Lynch with his hurley prior to O' Mahoney flip but I don't expect you to remember them as it doesn't play to your view that only Limerick commit those indiscretions.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 899 - 25/04/2023 13:11:53 2473689 Link 1 |
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It will be interesting to see if Kiely does make a few changes for the Clare game apart from Casey for Hannon. I'm pleased to learn that Hannon has just a groin injury and should be back soon. I definitely think that Cathal O'Neill should start instead of Gearoid? Dealer (Limerick) - Posts: 837 - 25/04/2023 13:12:13 2473690 Link 0 |
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I think the "noise" in general is now off the scale. Kiely was referring to noise from the media about how they were going to dominate and be looking towards 6 in a row etc which is complete rubbish that no one is talking about. You also now have lots of people now with only a passing interest in hurling who have never held a Hurley making sweeping comments on social media and everyone rolling in behind it. Certain people are waiting with bated breath for the next hard or mistimed tackle from Limerick to declare ".....see they are always at it...". In the heat of championship things will usually boil over and god help us if we ever lose this aspect of the game. Just remember back to when you had Colin Lynch and Mike Houlihan up against each other and what used to go on. They stuff written about the likes on Hegarty is just cruel at times imo and branding him as this and that. Yes he mistimed the tackle and he will take his sending off but lets move on. Lots of others play on the edge for years and you don't hear a whisper about them. Cathal Barrett for Tipp looks back to his very best, he is a guy who plays right on the edge and goes over it, Austin Gleeson is another. Calum lyons gave Cian Lynch plenty of it and played right up and at times over the edge. Look at Conor Cleary in the Munster final against Limerick last year he pushed and shoved him for the first 40 mins of the game. Seamus Flanagan got the hurley straight into the helmet from someone in the same game in a tussle and nothing about it. If other teams sins are to be ignored and Limericks highlighted to all in lights then our game is in trouble, Limerick need to ignore and drive on Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 434 - 25/04/2023 13:21:12 2473695 Link 3 |
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Limerick certainly aren't the only team who go over the edge put possibly have been more guilty than others on occasions, wouldn't be surprised if Sunday does Limerick good and we see less of these types of talking points in the remainder of the year.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 25/04/2023 13:47:45 2473708 Link 0 |
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Hitting to the head is a foul and rightly so to protect the health of the players. The grey area is it the moment of the play at the speed things are happening. That is why the sending off of any player should be after review as the officials can be excused for not making a correct decisions. Then we will be on here saying he missed it or got it wrong. There is enough of time used up on other things that are of less serious consequences. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3035 - 25/04/2023 14:47:53 2473738 Link 0 |
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If you recall the year Ritchie Hogan got red carded in the AI V Tipp there was huge emphasis at that time on head injuries it seems to have gone under the radar and there is a fair bit of clipping around the Helmet now. I was at an U-20 match In Ennis and the opposition got 2 yellows and should have got more for continuous clipping Peter Casey has has a couple of bruised ears in the last couple of matches they do need to stamp it out players seem to think that if you wear a helmet less care is needed but not so. I hope we see two further great matches this weekend without too much controversy or over analysis realistically both WF and Clare need some sort of result not easy to see how though. clooney (Clare) - Posts: 984 - 25/04/2023 15:47:10 2473759 Link 0 |