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Having said all I said I still think the suspension is marginal call and its as much as the GAA laying down a marker than anything else - as you said it was a push rather than a strike. Its a long time since Tipp had a midfielder who wasnt afraid to put it up to someone like WOD. He certainly took no backyard step given two or three hits on WOD in the first half and the 4 points he scored so I strongly disagree with you there. You can't really confront someone with a facegaurd flapping around the place so once that was put back away he went again! Anyway as I said this is real trivial stuff and if you swapped jerseys we'd be still arguing and backing our players. See ye in Thurles :-D tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 04/04/2023 14:37:37 2468805 Link 0 |
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No complaints from me Pal. Never suggested that there is any agenda against us either. I think you're mixing me up with someone else. Think Tynan got away with plenty is all, and this whole checking the back of the head looking for blood thing..its play acting. WOD hit him and got a suspension.. I'm sure we'll survive. skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1056 - 04/04/2023 14:56:34 2468809 Link 0 |
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Fair enough. We will move on. Enjoy the trip to Cork!
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 04/04/2023 15:33:37 2468822 Link 0 |
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Tiobraid what irks me is the inconsistency and you would find me on here complaining if one of our guys got away with kicking. Could stop myself from taking a swing there. There are many aspects to the sport that I enjoy including the performance of the other teams. The so called minnows like Westmeath and others do not get the coverage they deserve but I have enjoyed watching those teams also. I will make a prediction Waterford will come out of Munster. I love the underdog tag (7) as it suits us better. If I am wrong you can take me to task. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 04/04/2023 19:02:40 2468887 Link 1 |
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I agree Oldtourman, but in faairness the referee may have been unsighted as there were a few players in his line of vision. He did consult his umpires who certainly should have had a good view.
midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 541 - 04/04/2023 21:05:09 2468920 Link 0 |
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Its not a marginal call, he swung around and hit Tynan on the head with the hurl?? He deserved to be suspended. I don't care if he was provoked or not it was a massive over reaction to stuff that goes on before every throw in. Again Limerick posters on here saying its a conspiracy and all the rest but discipline and injuries are probably the only thing that could stop ye winning the AI. You can't control injuries but you certainly can control discipline. In this instance and Kyle Hayes incident in Galway both players escaped punishment on the day and were able to play the full game. The consequences and outcome in a championship match might be far more severe. I'll be labelled a Limerick hater for this post but for a team who pride themselves on accountability and how honest they train i don't understand why they can't seem to control their discipline. LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 05/04/2023 09:23:56 2468946 Link 3 |
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Theres been countless discipline issues with your own county over the last two seasons. They lead the red card table by a distance. Anyway I'll leave it at that as we have been back and forth on this 100 times now. The Munster betting has Limerick, Cork, Tipp, Clare and Waterford in that order. They're clearly basing most of that on league form. From a Tipp perspective I think injuries will hamper whatever chance we had. A lot will also depend on who Cahill picks and if he insists on going with one particular forward at 14 who can't score then we've no chance. 7 shots at the goals in a half of hurling wont cut it so that needs to be fixed. Limerick could have beaten Tipp by 12-15 points the last day if they really wanted to. I expect both Clare and Waterford to come out firing and expect both to get to AI series with Limerick. However, it'll become clearer after R1. Davys tactics have been bordering on the ridiculous in some league games so it remains to be seen what happens in championship. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 05/04/2023 09:47:33 2468950 Link 0 |
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https://twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1421473937742077954 Just for the laugh Canuck can you give your analysis and comparison on this kick by Gleeson and Breens "kick"? Both opposition players were lucky not to lose the leg I'd say.... Anyway thats def the last I'm saying on it. Trivial BS in my opinion. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 05/04/2023 10:00:52 2468954 Link 0 |
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It's the league Larry. Different stakes. Cork v kk same. Waterford have 4 reds already. Limericks discipline record in championship is very good. They know when to tone things back. Its been the same for decades with the great teams. They are a hugely physical team and the training matches are savage. It's why they've won 4 of the last 5 AIs. No one can match their physicality over 75 mins because they drive each other so hard for months. Will is an extremely physical but hugely fair hurler. He reacted to several dunts and one into the groin area but you're right he reacted poorly. Will has an excellent disciplinary record club and county. Limerick have way too much experience at this stage. Hurling is a hugely physical contact sport played at a huge pace nowadays but the same flash moments are always there. Kyle and will both accepted their suspensions and rightly so. Limerick as a group I know feed off this come championship . We know you're not a limerick hater Larry.
daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1123 - 05/04/2023 10:08:56 2468960 Link 1 |
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In last years AI semi final and final in two hugely physical matches Limerick didn't even receive one booking. Discipline when it matters counts. daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1123 - 05/04/2023 10:27:35 2468969 Link 3 |
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Your discipline was awful in the 2021 championship, should have got 3 straight reds in 4 games Hegarty v Cork, Gillane v Tipp and Lynch when the game was already over to be fair in the final. Cleaned it up big time last year when Hegarty was wrongly sent off V Clare and that was it really.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1673 - 05/04/2023 10:47:29 2468978 Link 0 |
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What is funny though is there is some on here lamenting the past and how great that was and yet if there is a slight throw back to the past people are up in arms. Remember the likes of Colin Lynch, Ollie Baker or Mike Houlihan before a throw in, playing without helmets. Watch the 98 Munster final replay throw in, Colin Lynch flakes his opponent and his own team mate, no one is safe. The great Tony Browne doesn't even flinch and the game moves on. Yes, Will deserves a suspension and i don't think there were any complaints on it from the camp but the attention it got is ridiculous imo. All great teams will be guaranteed to occasionally cross the disciplinary line because all great teams will play right on the edge of it. Overall the discipline for Limerick has been quite good this season, you are only mentioning two incidents out of a lot of hurling this year.
Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 384 - 05/04/2023 11:38:22 2468996 Link 0 |
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Ref and linesmen saw all 3 incidents and dealt with them on the field of play. You're going back 2 years now. I'm just staying facts. As John fogarty writes in today's examiner the spotlight is heavily on Limerick and unfairly at times but long may it continue. If every other team were under the same spotlight I think we'd all be concluding that the game itself has a disciplinary issue but it's a wonderful game. As I said this stuff only makes that group stronger and more focused.
daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1123 - 05/04/2023 11:39:01 2468997 Link 0 |
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Mark of a great team that. Eliminate weaknesses.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11725 - 05/04/2023 12:07:31 2469012 Link 0 |
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You mentioned discipline from 2017 onwards in a previous post so you can't pick and choose the time range to suit the point your making, just because its dealt with on the pitch doesn't mean it can't be discussed, should Cahalane's slap to Drennan's helmet a couple of weeks ago be brushed under the carpet as he got a yellow?
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1673 - 05/04/2023 12:50:30 2469030 Link 0 |
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larry i wouldnt consider you a limerick hater for that post you are right will o donoghue deserved to be sanctioned but what irks me is that its happening in other matches also and not been brought up....the one that gets to me is michael breen drawing a kick and knocking him to the ground on stephen bennett in the league match and not a word about it. you either go bk on all red card offences or forget about it you can't be picking and choosing .
munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1095 - 05/04/2023 12:52:41 2469032 Link 0 |
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Yes since 2017 limericks disciplinary record in the championship is better than 90% of the teams competing. Fact.
daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1123 - 05/04/2023 13:02:00 2469035 Link 0 |
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In 31 championship matches under john kiely limerick have had 3 red cards. One was rescinded. That is a very good discipline record in the modern game where cards are more common than in the past. A lot better than people would have you believe.
daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1123 - 05/04/2023 13:04:56 2469037 Link 2 |
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Stats can be what you want them to be. I never questioned anyone of the four red cards. All but one were in retaliation and the other I did not see provocation. However striking out is a red card and can be avoided with discipline and protection for players by the officials. There is certainly no consistency. If you add Breen and some others I witnessed during this league there should have been six in total of sending offs by opposition teams. All subjective, useless stuff and does not make any team dirtier that another.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 05/04/2023 14:23:33 2469067 Link 0 |
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Referee dealt with that incident and wrongly gave a yellow card.
LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 05/04/2023 14:29:54 2469069 Link 0 |