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Replying To bond:  "the team is in a great position currently. substantial improvement in performances this year so far & strenght in depth excellent and hopefully will improve further with Conor Brady, Oisin Brady & Conor Smith to return over the next few weeks. the only criticism i had off our previous performances was the lack of a goal scoring cutting edge and this was answered on Sunday. extremely positive so far and if we can win the Div 3 league will leave us in a great position to take on Armagh in Breffni. they will have the benefit of playing 7 games in a much higher standard but our progress is consistent and will leave us entering that game in a positive mindset"
Great to see GMcK passing the ball to Paddy for the goals....in times past he would have gone on his own or fisted over for the 2nd goal. What a potent FF line when all back in contention !!

ExiledCuCu (Cavan) - Posts: 256 - 07/03/2023 15:52:20    2462577

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Good win. Promotion done and dusted. Pity the division 3 winner doesn't go into the Sam Maguire, would have made it much more interesting. Focus now probably turns to Armagh, who seem to be playing a more defensive system in the league. I still think we can definitely hurt them like we did in 2019 in Clones. They are still weak in the full back line and at midfield. If we can hold their main scoring threats we can hurt them the other end. I would imagine that will be a sell out or close to it. What a big game to look forward to, although it won't be the same in April. Graham must be tempted to play McVeety full forward. He was outstanding that day in Clones against them. He would now have the support of Lynch and Gearoid. So many options for that forward line

97Cavans (Cavan) - Posts: 406 - 07/03/2023 18:33:58    2462628

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Replying To 97Cavans:  "Good win. Promotion done and dusted. Pity the division 3 winner doesn't go into the Sam Maguire, would have made it much more interesting. Focus now probably turns to Armagh, who seem to be playing a more defensive system in the league. I still think we can definitely hurt them like we did in 2019 in Clones. They are still weak in the full back line and at midfield. If we can hold their main scoring threats we can hurt them the other end. I would imagine that will be a sell out or close to it. What a big game to look forward to, although it won't be the same in April. Graham must be tempted to play McVeety full forward. He was outstanding that day in Clones against them. He would now have the support of Lynch and Gearoid. So many options for that forward line"
If you call J oh Burns weak in midfield then I don't know what you would call ours… It could be interesting but they are playing for the last 3/4 years at a totally different level than what we have been toiling at… The step up will be massive but you never know what might happen on the day.. they might have a stinker..

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3816 - 08/03/2023 10:58:43    2462693

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "If you call J oh Burns weak in midfield then I don't know what you would call ours… It could be interesting but they are playing for the last 3/4 years at a totally different level than what we have been toiling at… The step up will be massive but you never know what might happen on the day.. they might have a stinker.."
The level they've been at for the last years has never really served them. They go balls out all Spring to get up and about Div1 and then are nowhere near that level come Championship. Always been hesitant to go solely on league form (and I'd apply that to us going well this year too), but I'd have no fear with them coming to Breffni. They've messed up in Ulster more times, and they know we can get at them. That scar tissue will be there

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2466 - 08/03/2023 11:51:03    2462722

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I don't think Armaghs league form has been great this year which is a worry…picking up points but not overly impressive..I think they see an opportunity this year in Ulster with Tyrone's poor form and Monaghan in decline.. Donegal out of sorts and Derry trying to defend their crown..Couple that with a very favourable draw I think McGeeany is going to go all in on trying to win an Ulster title… You are right in saying our record against them is very good but it's going to take a huge effort to overcome them..

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3816 - 08/03/2023 12:11:51    2462729

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "If you call J oh Burns weak in midfield then I don't know what you would call ours… It could be interesting but they are playing for the last 3/4 years at a totally different level than what we have been toiling at… The step up will be massive but you never know what might happen on the day.. they might have a stinker.."
Jarlath Óg Burns plays predominantly as a half-back these days no?

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12332 - 08/03/2023 14:14:51    2462770

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "I don't think Armaghs league form has been great this year which is a worry…picking up points but not overly impressive..I think they see an opportunity this year in Ulster with Tyrone's poor form and Monaghan in decline.. Donegal out of sorts and Derry trying to defend their crown..Couple that with a very favourable draw I think McGeeany is going to go all in on trying to win an Ulster title… You are right in saying our record against them is very good but it's going to take a huge effort to overcome them.."
Not too worried about Armagh. You get what you see with Armagh. 15 men behind the ball. Their scoring average is very average also and could still get relegated from Div 1. Take them out of the Athletic grounds and they struggle. Beat a poor Donegal and Monaghan team by a few points each and were luck to beat Monaghan, both at home.

Cutler (Cavan) - Posts: 33 - 08/03/2023 15:32:46    2462807

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Replying To Breffni40:  "Jarlath Óg Burns plays predominantly as a half-back these days no?"
Was in midfield at the weekend…. A very powerful runner..

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3816 - 08/03/2023 15:50:27    2462818

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Replying To Cutler:  "Not too worried about Armagh. You get what you see with Armagh. 15 men behind the ball. Their scoring average is very average also and could still get relegated from Div 1. Take them out of the Athletic grounds and they struggle. Beat a poor Donegal and Monaghan team by a few points each and were luck to beat Monaghan, both at home."
We will see how worried we all might be come the first round of the championship…It's this sort of talk that usually comes back to bite you… Cavan are not any where near the level of the top teams in my opinion…. Playing Div 3/4 football for 3 years will prove costly

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3816 - 08/03/2023 16:53:11    2462841

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Replying To Breffni40:  "Jarlath Óg Burns plays predominantly as a half-back these days no?"
Was in midfield at the weekend…. A very powerful runner..

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3816 - 08/03/2023 16:53:50    2462843

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "If you call J oh Burns weak in midfield then I don't know what you would call ours… It could be interesting but they are playing for the last 3/4 years at a totally different level than what we have been toiling at… The step up will be massive but you never know what might happen on the day.. they might have a stinker.."
Yes true he was very good there against Donegal and is a quality player in general. But generally Armagh have struggled at midfield for a good few years now, hence his move there probably. I think it would be well worth targeting a squeeze on Armagh kickouts

97Cavans (Cavan) - Posts: 406 - 09/03/2023 11:23:39    2462935

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Replying To 97Cavans:  "Yes true he was very good there against Donegal and is a quality player in general. But generally Armagh have struggled at midfield for a good few years now, hence his move there probably. I think it would be well worth targeting a squeeze on Armagh kickouts"
I grew with the squeeze on kick outs but our midfield is so weak it could go against us… How we conceded 24 kick outs in the Taltainn Cup final was mind boggling…. Poor management

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3816 - 09/03/2023 11:42:28    2462940

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Replying To 97Cavans:  "Yes true he was very good there against Donegal and is a quality player in general. But generally Armagh have struggled at midfield for a good few years now, hence his move there probably. I think it would be well worth targeting a squeeze on Armagh kickouts"
A bit left field maybe, but I'd like to see if Killian the Gunner could do a job on Jarlath Burns. For all Burns strength as a runner, I believe that he can be got at physically. Their full back line is far from invincible also.

Fontofwisdom (Cavan) - Posts: 128 - 09/03/2023 21:18:26    2463095

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I think we have enough strong runners ourselves not to be too unduly worried about theirs

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12332 - 10/03/2023 12:33:46    2463169

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On another note, what do people think that our best forward line is? Mckiernan and Lynch and Gerry Smith are surely certs to start. That leaves only three places. In my opinion, Cian Madden offers a dynamism that we lack. He always chips in with a few scores. O Neill has been very good this year. You also have Oisin Brady, who Graham seems to like. Add in lads like Martin Reilly, Conor Smith, Stephen Smith, or maybe Graham puts McVitty or James Smith in at 14. Thoughts?

Fontofwisdom (Cavan) - Posts: 128 - 10/03/2023 13:47:45    2463201

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Replying To Fontofwisdom:  "On another note, what do people think that our best forward line is? Mckiernan and Lynch and Gerry Smith are surely certs to start. That leaves only three places. In my opinion, Cian Madden offers a dynamism that we lack. He always chips in with a few scores. O Neill has been very good this year. You also have Oisin Brady, who Graham seems to like. Add in lads like Martin Reilly, Conor Smith, Stephen Smith, or maybe Graham puts McVitty or James Smith in at 14. Thoughts?"
Oisin Kieran also might take a wing forward position, maybe a full forward line of gearoid paddy Lynch and Oisin brady or Brandon Boylan has done well lately, I'd say James smith will go midfield he probably wasn't midfield last year because Thomas was there, who partners him killian Clarke or Connor brady, probably killian he has settled well in there and is looking in great shape and playing well, Mcveety has made the no 6 his and we haven't had a centre back as good in along long time.

blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 885 - 10/03/2023 14:19:59    2463214

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Replying To Fontofwisdom:  "On another note, what do people think that our best forward line is? Mckiernan and Lynch and Gerry Smith are surely certs to start. That leaves only three places. In my opinion, Cian Madden offers a dynamism that we lack. He always chips in with a few scores. O Neill has been very good this year. You also have Oisin Brady, who Graham seems to like. Add in lads like Martin Reilly, Conor Smith, Stephen Smith, or maybe Graham puts McVitty or James Smith in at 14. Thoughts?"
Don't forget Oisin Kiernan still has to come back into wing forward and Conor Madden as an option too

i.am.legend (UK) - Posts: 48 - 10/03/2023 14:20:19    2463215

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Replying To i.am.legend:  "Don't forget Oisin Kiernan still has to come back into wing forward and Conor Madden as an option too"
Forgot all about Brandon Boylan. Its a tough pick for the management. Whisper it maybe, but do Cavan now have a potent attacking unit.

Fontofwisdom (Cavan) - Posts: 128 - 10/03/2023 14:36:55    2463218

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Lads, I'm a huge Oisin Kiernan fan. But has he really been in good form recently? Think he's been off the pace compared to his usual high standards, and needs to get back up to force his way in here. Wasn't he injured in the lead up to Donegal last year and made the bench? Don't think he's been fully right since before that. Really hope he does, quality player.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2466 - 10/03/2023 14:59:20    2463223

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Watch this space - I have a sneaky feeling Cavan will get to an Ulster Final this year and who know what will happen.

Derry are favourites for sure, Armagh will be tough, and you cant write off Tyrone after their victory over Kerry last week, but I feel Cavan have a strong panel and can bring on players who can make a difference, particularly in the forward line where in previous years, we struggled a little it. Midfield could be an issue, but when you look at most of the other teams, one would argue that we have players just as capable on their day.

I think its going to be an enjoyable summer for the Breffni County this year.

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 636 - 10/03/2023 15:07:44    2463226

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