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havent been on here in ages with lack of intercounty action, and next year as we all knew anyway is even going to be a more concdensed championship. Munster and Leinster hurling finals the same day not even the middle of June is just taking the mick now altogehter, maybe if they GAA done some sort of poll and draw maybe Kilkenny and Waterford out as potential finalists and bring along the Liam McCarthy cup to the AI club semi final (which done well not be fixed for Christmas day by looks of it) and give the winners of the club game the cup and then they wouldnt have to bother with the intercounty at all..pushing it a bit far yes of course I am, but this is all gone a bit too far now, how many club players get to play beyond September, not every club in Ireland is playing right up to All Club final obviously, more clubs and players are idle than are not idle...they answer is I dont know, but this microwaving of the inter county is ridiculous...in my view...without attacking me on the matter what do others think... Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 08/12/2022 20:17:09 2449900 Link 0 |
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Where does it say that the Munster and Leinster hurling finals will be played on the same day? According to the GAA Master Fixtures for 2023, they will be played on the weekend Saturday 10th or Sunday 11th June, with the exact dates and times still to be determined. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2478 - 09/12/2022 10:50:25 2449924 Link 0 |
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RTE sports news stated they were the same day- regardless FFS no need to have to such high profile games on so close together - maybe they should check and see if both games could be played smilataneoulsly on the same pitch...its a joke all this...
Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 09/12/2022 12:55:48 2449951 Link 1 |
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The problem with the Intercounty championships timewise isn't just the increased number of games. It's the whole package of training, meetings etc as well. If the intercounty teams only met for say 1 training session/meeting during the week before a game then the club championships and intercounty championships could run concurrently on alternate weekends over the whole summer. And the real summer months at that. But try getting any intercounty manager to agree to that.......
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12046 - 09/12/2022 12:55:51 2449952 Link 0 |
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Not really a hurling man, but for me football is over far too quick. It's all games, games, games and then nothing. In Ulster two and three games on the same weekend. What's the rush?
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2017 - 09/12/2022 13:55:02 2449964 Link 4 |
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my sentinments exactly..
Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 09/12/2022 14:46:44 2449970 Link 0 |
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Are you attending any of the club championships? Pat Spillane has an interesting suggestion of inter-county hurling and club football to start the season. Inter-county football and club hurling to end the season. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7873 - 09/12/2022 15:32:07 2449976 Link 0 |
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It was honestly 1 of the most ridiculous suggestions I've ever heard regarding GAA, would make it impossible for intercounty players to be dual players for their clubs, also he suggested flipping it every year so for example 2023 intercounty hurling would be January-June then in 2024 would be July-December. This would mean 12 months of intercounty hurling non-stop, then 12 months of no intercounty hurling but instead 12 months of non-stop intercounty football.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1752 - 09/12/2022 15:51:31 2449977 Link 1 |
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If you have 1 game per weekend when would you play the club championships?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12046 - 09/12/2022 16:15:09 2449981 Link 0 |
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How would that help? Nearly all our intercounty hurlers play club football and nearly all our intercounty footballers play club hurling. Would be the same to some extent in many other counties too.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12046 - 09/12/2022 16:18:49 2449982 Link 0 |
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Worth a try, hurling doesn't be long distancing itself from football when rules like black cards come in. Anything to prolong the inter county season suits me.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2017 - 09/12/2022 16:44:02 2449988 Link 1 |
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Worth a try, hurling doesn't be long distancing itself from football when rules like black cards come in. Anything to prolong the inter county season suits me.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2017 - 09/12/2022 17:48:34 2449991 Link 1 |
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Think I've suggested before that you might be a little out of touch, or self-absorbed with Kerry. If I didn't mention it, I certainly considered doing so, and this removes all doubt. As the other poster says above, that suggestion from Spillane is bat droppings crazy. An inter-county hurler in action with his county from January to June couldn't play football with his club during that time. And vice versa for an inter-county footballer in action from July to December, who couldn't play club hurling. I know you probably don't have many dual players in Kerry, but if you and Spillane weren't so self-absorbed, you might realise there are multitudes of them in other places. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2254 - 09/12/2022 18:05:59 2449993 Link 1 |
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Dual players have choices to make. Dual players should not be hindering the fixture calendar. Players playing one code should not have their opportunities limited because of dual players. Dual should be double effort, not 50:50 effort. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7873 - 10/12/2022 16:34:39 2450056 Link 1 |
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Why should players or clubs or counties who could only be bothered playing one code be favoured? Dual counties, clubs and players aren't causing the fixtures problem . There were always dual players since the founding of the GAA. The fixtures problems we have now are because there are way more intercounty fixtures now than there ever were before. And Intercounty management teams expect to have their players exclusively while these fixtures take place. Only playing 1 code is only putting in the half effort. Not the other way around. Surprised at you tbh. The 1st 15 football championships before Kerry won their 1st were all won by counties that have won AI titles in both codes. In fact that goes for the 1st 17 football championships because Kerry won an AI hurling title before they ever won a football one. Kildare in 1905 were the 1st winner of a football championship that didn't win a hurling one before or since. Kilkenny were the only Irish county that didn't win a football AI out of the counties that won hurling AIs in the 1st 20 championships though most of their players who won hurling AIs did win Leinster football titles. Im really surprised at having a debate with the only Kerryman there ever was with no gra for history. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12046 - 10/12/2022 17:17:30 2450060 Link 0 |
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Why should players or clubs or counties who could only be bothered playing one code be favoured? Dual counties, clubs and players aren't causing the fixtures problem . There were always dual players since the founding of the GAA. The fixtures problems we have now are because there are way more intercounty fixtures now than there ever were before. And Intercounty management teams expect to have their players exclusively while these fixtures take place. Only playing 1 code is only putting in the half effort. Not the other way around. Surprised at you tbh. The 1st 15 football championships before Kerry won their 1st were all won by counties that have won AI titles in both codes. In fact that goes for the 1st 17 football championships because Kerry won an AI hurling title before they ever won a football one. Kildare in 1905 were the 1st winner of a football championship that didn't win a hurling one before or since. Kilkenny were the only Irish county that didn't win a football AI out of the counties that won hurling AIs in the 1st 20 championships though most of their players who won hurling AIs did win Leinster football titles. Im really surprised at having a debate with the only Kerryman there ever was with no gra for history. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12046 - 10/12/2022 17:18:28 2450061 Link 0 |
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Yep. Only short of running them as weekend blitzes at this stage.
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2584 - 11/12/2022 12:18:12 2450105 Link 0 |
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There needs to be less games if you want the games more spread out Barney!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12046 - 12/12/2022 08:00:29 2450145 Link 0 |
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I wouldn't know for sure, but would Slaughtneil have won a club All - Ireland in either football or hurling if they didn't have dual players. Too much to ask to play both codes at a high level.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2017 - 12/12/2022 13:14:57 2450180 Link 0 |
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Single code players have choices to make. Choices like: - Am I happy to continue playing only one of the two great games our Association fosters and promotes, or should I at make at least some effort to play the other as well? - Am I happy that my club/county neglects one of our two great games, or should I push for it to be promoted and developed more, so that more players in my club/county are truer to the real spirit and aims of the Association? - Do I think it's reasonable to force club players in counties where both games are played on an approximately equal footing to have to choose between the games, just to suit places like my own, where we neglect one of them? Or do I conclude that's unreasonable, and instead admire these other players for showing twice the dedication that I do? Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2254 - 12/12/2022 13:40:34 2450186 Link 0 |