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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "I can totally see where ye are coming from lads, no easy answers like ye said, I remember listening to Donnacha Boyle from the Irish Indo on Off the Ball a few ago saying he doesn't think fixtures issues in the GAA will ever be fully resolved and I'd be in complete agreement with him."
Too many games and not enough time! Least we won't be bored!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 6697 - 14/12/2022 17:26:50    2450432

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Since its the lean time of year so far as local affairs are concerned, thought of something a bit different, I have been doing a bit of research lately so did a quick search to see what colours local clubs wore when they started out back in the late eighteen hundreds and see if any are still the same. I dont have a lot of clubs but have a good few, see list below Todays club first with old club name in brackets, some teams had clubs from different areas so tried to match up as best I could.
Adamstown - White jersey, green and white cap.
Ballymitty - Green and white
Blackwater - No jersey, black and amber cap
Boolavogue (Monageer-Boolavogue) - Green shirts with remember 98 across the breast.
Ballyhogue (Bree) - Blue and yellow
Buffers Alley (Monamolin) - Lose fitting blue jackets
Crossabeg-Ballymurn Crossabeg) - Orange jersey, green shorts
Ferns - Gold and black
Fethard - Orange and green
Kilmore - Amber black and green
Kilaneirn - Blue and white
Naomh Eanna (Gorey) - Blue and yellow
Our Ladys Island (Tacumshane) - red, white and green
Oylegate/Glenbrien - Oylegate wore green and yellow, Glenbrien wore green and tinsel yellow.
Oulart The Ballagh - Oulart Green and gold, The Ballagh blue and white.
Rapparees - Few different teams, Enniscorthy 98's, green and red, Enniscorthy black and gold with green caps, John Street Parnells - white hoop
Shamrocks - (Vinegar Hil[)/b]l - Green and black
Shelmaliers - Castlebridge wore green jersey with shamrock on it, screen wore green and gold.
St. Fintans (Ballymore) - White jersey, green and orange cap.
St. Josephs and Marys Maudlintown - Mulgannon harriers was the name of the club, not sure which area closest to, wore orange and green
St. Martins (Piercestown) - Green and white
St. Marys Rosslare (Rosslare) - Scarlet and black bars, in 1894 changed to white.
St. Annes - Black, blue and white

Wexford seemed to only decide on a colour in 1902, picking green and gold, wore various colours after this including blue and white. Even after they wore purple and gold in 1913, it was mentioned numerous times after this as wearing blue and gold. I wonder if the purple came about as just a fading of the two.

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 316 - 03/01/2023 14:28:37    2450971

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Think it was in Billy Rackard's book "No Hurling at the Dairy Door" that I read some mention of the blue and gold / purple and gold thing, a good few years ago now. If I recall correctly, it was basically that jerseys were woolen knitted garments at the time, and there were a couple occasions when purple wool wasn't available and so blue was used instead. Don't take that as gospel, though! Might root the book out sometime soon and see if I can find mention of it, all the same.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 1282 - 03/01/2023 14:51:41    2450975

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Replying To alwaysasub:  "Since its the lean time of year so far as local affairs are concerned, thought of something a bit different, I have been doing a bit of research lately so did a quick search to see what colours local clubs wore when they started out back in the late eighteen hundreds and see if any are still the same. I dont have a lot of clubs but have a good few, see list below Todays club first with old club name in brackets, some teams had clubs from different areas so tried to match up as best I could.
Adamstown - White jersey, green and white cap.
Ballymitty - Green and white
Blackwater - No jersey, black and amber cap
Boolavogue (Monageer-Boolavogue) - Green shirts with remember 98 across the breast.
Ballyhogue (Bree) - Blue and yellow
Buffers Alley (Monamolin) - Lose fitting blue jackets
Crossabeg-Ballymurn Crossabeg) - Orange jersey, green shorts
Ferns - Gold and black
Fethard - Orange and green
Kilmore - Amber black and green
Kilaneirn - Blue and white
Naomh Eanna (Gorey) - Blue and yellow
Our Ladys Island (Tacumshane) - red, white and green
Oylegate/Glenbrien - Oylegate wore green and yellow, Glenbrien wore green and tinsel yellow.
Oulart The Ballagh - Oulart Green and gold, The Ballagh blue and white.
Rapparees - Few different teams, Enniscorthy 98's, green and red, Enniscorthy black and gold with green caps, John Street Parnells - white hoop
Shamrocks - (Vinegar Hil[)/b
l - Green and black
Shelmaliers - Castlebridge wore green jersey with shamrock on it, screen wore green and gold.
St. Fintans (Ballymore) - White jersey, green and orange cap.
St. Josephs and Marys Maudlintown - Mulgannon harriers was the name of the club, not sure which area closest to, wore orange and green
St. Martins (Piercestown) - Green and white
St. Marys Rosslare (Rosslare) - Scarlet and black bars, in 1894 changed to white.
St. Annes - Black, blue and white

Wexford seemed to only decide on a colour in 1902, picking green and gold, wore various colours after this including blue and white. Even after they wore purple and gold in 1913, it was mentioned numerous times after this as wearing blue and gold. I wonder if the purple came about as just a fading of the two."]The 1st team from Taghmon parish wore black and gold jerseys with a gold harp and shamrock in 1886.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 6697 - 03/01/2023 16:19:48    2450986

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Replying To Viking66:  "
Replying To alwaysasub:  "Since its the lean time of year so far as local affairs are concerned, thought of something a bit different, I have been doing a bit of research lately so did a quick search to see what colours local clubs wore when they started out back in the late eighteen hundreds and see if any are still the same. I dont have a lot of clubs but have a good few, see list below Todays club first with old club name in brackets, some teams had clubs from different areas so tried to match up as best I could.
Adamstown - White jersey, green and white cap.
Ballymitty - Green and white
Blackwater - No jersey, black and amber cap
Boolavogue (Monageer-Boolavogue) - Green shirts with remember 98 across the breast.
Ballyhogue (Bree) - Blue and yellow
Buffers Alley (Monamolin) - Lose fitting blue jackets
Crossabeg-Ballymurn Crossabeg) - Orange jersey, green shorts
Ferns - Gold and black
Fethard - Orange and green
Kilmore - Amber black and green
Kilaneirn - Blue and white
Naomh Eanna (Gorey) - Blue and yellow
Our Ladys Island (Tacumshane) - red, white and green
Oylegate/Glenbrien - Oylegate wore green and yellow, Glenbrien wore green and tinsel yellow.
Oulart The Ballagh - Oulart Green and gold, The Ballagh blue and white.
Rapparees - Few different teams, Enniscorthy 98's, green and red, Enniscorthy black and gold with green caps, John Street Parnells - white hoop
Shamrocks - (Vinegar Hil[)/b
l - Green and black
Shelmaliers - Castlebridge wore green jersey with shamrock on it, screen wore green and gold.
St. Fintans (Ballymore) - White jersey, green and orange cap.
St. Josephs and Marys Maudlintown - Mulgannon harriers was the name of the club, not sure which area closest to, wore orange and green
St. Martins (Piercestown) - Green and white
St. Marys Rosslare (Rosslare) - Scarlet and black bars, in 1894 changed to white.
St. Annes - Black, blue and white

Wexford seemed to only decide on a colour in 1902, picking green and gold, wore various colours after this including blue and white. Even after they wore purple and gold in 1913, it was mentioned numerous times after this as wearing blue and gold. I wonder if the purple came about as just a fading of the two."
The 1st team from Taghmon parish wore black and gold jerseys with a gold harp and shamrock in 1886."]Couldn't find Taghmon alright so that's interesting.

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 316 - 03/01/2023 16:58:24    2450990

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Another one to add is Kimannon football club. This would be present day Murntown (St. Martins), wore scarlet and green.

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 316 - 03/01/2023 17:00:41    2450991

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Leinster Council taking a tough line with Oulart, trying to make a statement by increasing bans of two players. It was probably a bit silly of Oulart if the two aforementioned players were caught fully red handed on camera doing something and then appealing. The Leinster Council are obviously fed up with these appeals especially when the evidence was so obvious.

I think the harshest part for them is expulsion from future Leinster competition next time they qualify. The other team involved have seemed to accept there punishments and moved in, probably saw the writing on the wall.

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 316 - 11/01/2023 11:07:19    2452005

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Replying To alwaysasub:  "Leinster Council taking a tough line with Oulart, trying to make a statement by increasing bans of two players. It was probably a bit silly of Oulart if the two aforementioned players were caught fully red handed on camera doing something and then appealing. The Leinster Council are obviously fed up with these appeals especially when the evidence was so obvious.

I think the harshest part for them is expulsion from future Leinster competition next time they qualify. The other team involved have seemed to accept there punishments and moved in, probably saw the writing on the wall."
Harsh but probably fair. You can argue it happens all the time and no one is caught but this was caught and need start making examples somewhere. Hopefully this is the start of a hardline to these incidents. I get it's passionate and it's your club etc but some things went over that line. There will always be rows in games but if lads know this punishment is coming it might make a lad less inclined to hit a hayemaker on a lad and hit a cowardly belt with the hurl. I don't want the physicality and fight to go out of the game but scenes like that aren't what we need (enthralling and eye catching as they may be and we hate to admit but we'll always watch the footage of a mass brawl and fights)
There's a line and it was definitely crossed by both teams and think the punishment probably had to be harsh and hope other teams that do it receive similar punishments and not be brushed aside now this they've been seen to act on one incident.

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 122 - 11/01/2023 12:10:11    2452018

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And they are appealing again, they should just accept their medicine and move on.

The sinister part of me hopes the Leinster Council increase the suspension even more because of the appeal. It's the most annoying aspect of the GAA- teams and players have a holier than thou attitude towards disciplinary matters and can't accept they are in the wrong occassionally. Brings the game into disrepute. If the big bad Dublin club can move on, why can't Oulart?

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1285 - 12/01/2023 10:53:08    2452141

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I was at the game and I have no affiliation with oulart happen to be living in Dublin so went down to it. This is a disgrace the naomh barrog fans were shocking all through the game . The players off the ball were scandalous pulling off the oulart lads. The incident that led to the fight was because of a naomh barrog lad pulling knee high. No excuse for fans fighting and the woman seen using a hurl is not acceptable but but where is the fines and bans for them. What about the barrog fans who ran through the stands to start fighting.

Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 128 - 12/01/2023 11:27:04    2452151

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when will the drawbe for the local championship?

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2503 - 12/01/2023 19:46:39    2452254

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "when will the drawbe for the local championship?"
An email went out to clubs this week to say it'll take place after the County Board meeting on January 31.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 1282 - 13/01/2023 09:31:09    2452275

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Replying To beano:  "And they are appealing again, they should just accept their medicine and move on.

The sinister part of me hopes the Leinster Council increase the suspension even more because of the appeal. It's the most annoying aspect of the GAA- teams and players have a holier than thou attitude towards disciplinary matters and can't accept they are in the wrong occassionally. Brings the game into disrepute. If the big bad Dublin club can move on, why can't Oulart?"
Because they got away with murder and know that. Why wouldn't they.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 309 - 13/01/2023 11:37:27    2452295

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Replying To Wexfordgaa:  "I was at the game and I have no affiliation with oulart happen to be living in Dublin so went down to it. This is a disgrace the naomh barrog fans were shocking all through the game . The players off the ball were scandalous pulling off the oulart lads. The incident that led to the fight was because of a naomh barrog lad pulling knee high. No excuse for fans fighting and the woman seen using a hurl is not acceptable but but where is the fines and bans for them. What about the barrog fans who ran through the stands to start fighting."
I was not at the game but I do know some of the stewards in the Nell and they all think Barrog have got away with one here. They were the chief agressors on the day as were their support and while there is no excusing the behaviour of a few of the Oulart supporters, my understanding is that the Leinster Council didn't look at all the video available to them and this is the basis of Oulart's appeal.
beano, if anything it is punishing the "big bad high profile Wexford club", Barrog are not a big club in Dublin and I would say before this most people had not heard of them?

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 477 - 13/01/2023 12:28:21    2452302

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "I was not at the game but I do know some of the stewards in the Nell and they all think Barrog have got away with one here. They were the chief agressors on the day as were their support and while there is no excusing the behaviour of a few of the Oulart supporters, my understanding is that the Leinster Council didn't look at all the video available to them and this is the basis of Oulart's appeal.
beano, if anything it is punishing the "big bad high profile Wexford club", Barrog are not a big club in Dublin and I would say before this most people had not heard of them?"
Wasn't an it either but yeah that's what I find unusual is the one sided nature of the punishment's in 1 of the viral videos its clear some of the barrog supporters make there way from the back of the stand to get involved in the sideline antics, in fairness to this generation of oulart teams never put them down as a team to be involved in this stuff but there is no excusing some of the stuff captured in the footage.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 434 - 13/01/2023 12:45:52    2452304

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When it comes to gaa disciplinary issues .
I d say 90% of the time they do as they please. They are only ordinary gaa people too and possibly don't understand the rules or the consequences of their decisions on a club or individuals and are not knowledgeable enough .
Some I would say are on power trips and try to instill their own verdict .
Saying that the laws and rules within the organisation can be let's say watery and open to interpretatikn to say the least .
If it were me I would appeal after appeal as I can guarantee you all the protocols were not followed correctly and Oulart must feel aggrieved to be punished so harshly whilst naomh Barrog get away lighter.
Was increase in punishment their way of appeasing the general public and media . And saving face .
Or someone on panel having a grudge .
Whatever the reason a smart person will find fault in the process if they look hard enough and will be reduced .
Maybe the next time they qualify for leinster most of the current team will no longer be playing as they really are in transition at present and future generations will be denied that reward a 5 or 6 year span would have sufficed to cover the next time they qualify if they don't it lapses or if they do qualify in that time they take the ban. .
next time they qualify for leinster it might be football I m sure they d be devasted not to play in that.

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 29 - 13/01/2023 14:05:01    2452318

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Replying To beano:  "And they are appealing again, they should just accept their medicine and move on.

The sinister part of me hopes the Leinster Council increase the suspension even more because of the appeal. It's the most annoying aspect of the GAA- teams and players have a holier than thou attitude towards disciplinary matters and can't accept they are in the wrong occassionally. Brings the game into disrepute. If the big bad Dublin club can move on, why can't Oulart?"
Yep completely agree

TheHogues (Wexford) - Posts: 22 - 13/01/2023 14:21:21    2452322

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