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Should Tailtean Cup Team Of The Year (TOTY) Have Only Two Representatives From Any One County

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Tomsmith here from Cavan

I just wonder would it be more benefical to weaker Counties that aMaxiimun of two players be allowed from each County on the TOTY .
I feel that again the weaker Counties are not getting afair representation while the stronger Counties are getting all the glory.
I see 6 from one County
I see 4 from my own County of Cavan

While many Counties are left unrepresented

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3856 - 26/10/2022 10:15:38    2445465

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here from Cavan

I just wonder would it be more benefical to weaker Counties that aMaxiimun of two players be allowed from each County on the TOTY .
I feel that again the weaker Counties are not getting afair representation while the stronger Counties are getting all the glory.
I see 6 from one County
I see 4 from my own County of Cavan

While many Counties are left unrepresented"
Hahahahahahaha

Tom your wummigs getting worse the more you post.
It's a team of the year not give everyone same reps in a team

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3504 - 26/10/2022 10:20:02    2445467

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here from Cavan

I just wonder would it be more benefical to weaker Counties that aMaxiimun of two players be allowed from each County on the TOTY .
I feel that again the weaker Counties are not getting afair representation while the stronger Counties are getting all the glory.
I see 6 from one County
I see 4 from my own County of Cavan

While many Counties are left unrepresented"
It wouldnt be a team of the year then.

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 524 - 26/10/2022 10:20:39    2445468

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here from Cavan

I just wonder would it be more benefical to weaker Counties that aMaxiimun of two players be allowed from each County on the TOTY .
I feel that again the weaker Counties are not getting afair representation while the stronger Counties are getting all the glory.
I see 6 from one County
I see 4 from my own County of Cavan

While many Counties are left unrepresented"
A Team of the Year should be the best lads for that year regardless of county. Besides, 2 per county would still have left most counties unrepresented. This might encourage others to train and play harder to win next year. There's not a huge gulf in standard between any of the teams in Divisions 3 and 4.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11798 - 26/10/2022 10:40:52    2445473

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here from Cavan

I just wonder would it be more benefical to weaker Counties that aMaxiimun of two players be allowed from each County on the TOTY .
I feel that again the weaker Counties are not getting afair representation while the stronger Counties are getting all the glory.
I see 6 from one County
I see 4 from my own County of Cavan

While many Counties are left unrepresented"
We would be moving into 'participation trophy' territory with a move like that. The team of the year should reflect the best players, regardless of how many appear from any one county. Quotas would discredit the process entirely and make the accolade meaningless.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 471 - 26/10/2022 10:44:43    2445476

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here from Cavan

I just wonder would it be more benefical to weaker Counties that aMaxiimun of two players be allowed from each County on the TOTY .
I feel that again the weaker Counties are not getting afair representation while the stronger Counties are getting all the glory.
I see 6 from one County
I see 4 from my own County of Cavan

While many Counties are left unrepresented"
Be a bit unfair on the winners and lads who had great year over many games if they didn't get one especially when the Liam Mac/Sam Maguire All Stars wouldn't use the same method of selection, maybe a cap of 5 be more realistic and even then probably not. Do think in recent years the final and winners carry way more weight than ever, even at their height Kilkenny or Kerry did win as many all stars as Limerick or Dublin picked up some years. In the 1980s you had all stars in hurling from Laois, Westmeath and Antrim. There's no right way to pick all stars, if it goes the public vote it'll just turn into a popularity vote, (think the NBA trialled that for a few years but it was just the same lads no matter how they played due to their popularity) There's going to be flaws to the selection process. Brian Whelahan winning hurler of the year but no star in 94 another example. Different tastes in players too, how many times has the Sunday Game team of the year been completely different to the actual all stars team. I remember in 2017 nearly all the pundits picked Gearoid McInerney as Hurler of the year and he wasn't even nominated then for the proper award then. I think the importance of all stars has diminished a bit over the last decade or so, still unbelievable for any people to get one but I don't think they carry as much weight in interest for the public or media that they did. Shane Walsh is going to win his first all star and nominated for Footballer of the Year but he won't be attending the award show at all, going to a fundraiser in Chicago for Galway Community/GAA out there, no doubt he's getting a nice packet to go out there and rightly so but if that was 10/15 years ago it would've been the biggest day in his sporting life outside of an all Ireland win but shows a little how the all stars have fallen a bit in their standing. It'll always be about winning with the team and what someone will always be remembered for first (probably matter to players but not as much I think)

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 258 - 26/10/2022 10:46:23    2445478

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Do not agree at all, too many 'medals for all' competitions about as it is...

beidhmeanseo (Donegal) - Posts: 137 - 26/10/2022 10:49:47    2445479

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here from Cavan

I just wonder would it be more benefical to weaker Counties that aMaxiimun of two players be allowed from each County on the TOTY .
I feel that again the weaker Counties are not getting afair representation while the stronger Counties are getting all the glory.
I see 6 from one County
I see 4 from my own County of Cavan

While many Counties are left unrepresented"
Your suggestion would weaken the awards albeit it's the Tailteann Cup.
By the same token you would need to do likewise with the All Stars. Could you see Kerry happy with 2 awards ?

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1652 - 26/10/2022 10:52:44    2445480

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here from Cavan

I just wonder would it be more benefical to weaker Counties that aMaxiimun of two players be allowed from each County on the TOTY .
I feel that again the weaker Counties are not getting afair representation while the stronger Counties are getting all the glory.
I see 6 from one County
I see 4 from my own County of Cavan

While many Counties are left unrepresented"
No I don't think so. Should the all stars be limited. It might be a second tier competition but it is still a meritocracy.

Backheel (Leitrim) - Posts: 133 - 26/10/2022 11:05:24    2445484

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here from Cavan

I just wonder would it be more benefical to weaker Counties that aMaxiimun of two players be allowed from each County on the TOTY .
I feel that again the weaker Counties are not getting afair representation while the stronger Counties are getting all the glory.
I see 6 from one County
I see 4 from my own County of Cavan

While many Counties are left unrepresented"
What conceivable, measurable benefit to the strength or development of football in a county would getting a player named on the Team of the Year deliver?
The Team of the Year should be just that - the best players who have played in that competition that season.

Londonish (UK) - Posts: 33 - 26/10/2022 11:21:07    2445488

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here from Cavan

I just wonder would it be more benefical to weaker Counties that aMaxiimun of two players be allowed from each County on the TOTY .
I feel that again the weaker Counties are not getting afair representation while the stronger Counties are getting all the glory.
I see 6 from one County
I see 4 from my own County of Cavan

While many Counties are left unrepresented"
Sure why not just give everyone who played in it an award while we're at it.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 26/10/2022 11:44:09    2445492

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Tomsmith here

I feel that I am in the perfect person / position to put forward this suggestion.
As Cavan has been in the final of the T C in 2022
As Cavan has 4 T O T Y nominees.
So as a senior poster of long standing excellent posts I feel this had to be said and suggested .
While a few of you have made some good points a lot of hot air has been blown over my post.
In recognition of other lesser known Counties who may have one or two excellent footballers and dont get any recognition that is why I posted.
As a County that got 4 on T O T Y it is defenitely not sour grapes.
Look at the post from weaker Counties point of view and dont be blinded by self rightness
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tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3856 - 27/10/2022 08:49:11    2445582

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here

I feel that I am in the perfect person / position to put forward this suggestion.
As Cavan has been in the final of the T C in 2022
As Cavan has 4 T O T Y nominees.
So as a senior poster of long standing excellent posts I feel this had to be said and suggested .
While a few of you have made some good points a lot of hot air has been blown over my post.
In recognition of other lesser known Counties who may have one or two excellent footballers and dont get any recognition that is why I posted.
As a County that got 4 on T O T Y it is defenitely not sour grapes.
Look at the post from weaker Counties point of view and dont be blinded by self rightness
."
any county footballer is a decent footballer and a good athlete!! the game now a days is basically professional so no this idea is crazy and what your suggesting makes no sense!! its a team of the year based on how an individual plays in that competition!! if it is giving to 2 reps from each county that most years the same players will receive the award!!

ie
Longford: mickey quinn
Leitrim: K Beirne
westmeath: Heslin
Cavan G mcKeirnan
Tipp: Sweeney
Fermanagh: Quigley

and the list goes on!

Garmin (Longford) - Posts: 87 - 27/10/2022 12:16:15    2445637

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Tomsmith here

In response would it be fantastic to see,
Quinn,
Beirne,
Heslin,
Quigley be honoured for participion.
When is/will these wonderfull exponents of the GAA Game be honoured.
Some are never likely to be on ateam that will win the Tailtean Cup.
Wake up its not all about people playing on Teams that won provincial finals a few short years ago.
I am all for honouring the lessor known Gaa players that is why I still say a maximum of two players per County.

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3856 - 30/10/2022 20:52:02    2446002

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Should be the best players at each position no matter who they play for. Anything else and we're into this 'everyone gets a medal' rubbish.

FrankieJoe (Wicklow) - Posts: 71 - 31/10/2022 17:30:06    2446055

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Hahahahahahaha

Tom your wummigs getting worse the more you post.
It's a team of the year not give everyone same reps in a team"
Tom are u joking

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1800 - 31/10/2022 18:00:24    2446060

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I suggested before Tom you should try knitting help to pass the time

breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 454 - 31/10/2022 21:32:33    2446077

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Tomsmith here

I dont agree that its the best players should be honoured that played Tailtean Cup.
If you look at why this cup competition was set up it was to give lesser know players and teams recognition.
This is not happenening with so called team of the year.
Once could advance the theory that the entire team could come from the two or last four in the competition.
When is Quigley fom Fermanagh ever likely to feature on a winning Tailtean Cup team.
So lads before you criticise Tomsmith or the great Mrs T thing on the injustice that this one sided selection has done tremendous injustice to good players on poor teams

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3856 - 03/11/2022 11:33:26    2446318

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here

I dont agree that its the best players should be honoured that played Tailtean Cup.
If you look at why this cup competition was set up it was to give lesser know players and teams recognition.
This is not happenening with so called team of the year.
Once could advance the theory that the entire team could come from the two or last four in the competition.
When is Quigley fom Fermanagh ever likely to feature on a winning Tailtean Cup team.
So lads before you criticise Tomsmith or the great Mrs T thing on the injustice that this one sided selection has done tremendous injustice to good players on poor teams"
There are 16 teams in the Cup. So who do you propose misses out when you allow 2 per county?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11798 - 03/11/2022 12:02:02    2446326

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith here

I feel that I am in the perfect person / position to put forward this suggestion.
As Cavan has been in the final of the T C in 2022
As Cavan has 4 T O T Y nominees.
So as a senior poster of long standing excellent posts I feel this had to be said and suggested .
While a few of you have made some good points a lot of hot air has been blown over my post.
In recognition of other lesser known Counties who may have one or two excellent footballers and dont get any recognition that is why I posted.
As a County that got 4 on T O T Y it is defenitely not sour grapes.
Look at the post from weaker Counties point of view and dont be blinded by self rightness
."
ROFL... anybody taking your advise in ANYTHING would need to have their head examined.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 844 - 03/11/2022 20:14:32    2446412

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