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Replying To Onfor15:  "There is some seriously delusional nonsense about building teams around lads who aren't good enough for the current panel. We have no one under the age of 25 who is good enough to be on our best 15. Therefore we are still relying on much older/tired lads who would be far better off as impact subs, but we cant afford to do the due to the lack of talent from 20 to 25."
It is a different animal but I had a tougher time playing against some of those 20-25 year olds at club level than against some older senior panellists.

I now realise my post the other night was a bit over the top and cringe but Wexford never needed support as badly as they do on Sunday. If I was within a short hop of Wexford Park I would not want it to be said at 4pm on Sunday "Where were you"?

People can talk about players commiting all they want but if they don't feel they have the peoples support then why wouldn't they just walk away like the support has done? "Why doesn't he commit" - why would he would commit 4-5 nights a week and support won't even commit to 2-3 hours every few weeks?

I honestly believe the crowd can help this team over the line on Sunday. A decision, a free, etc is easier won if the crowd are calling for it. Referees are human and need to be swayed some times.

Last point - we know full well certain posters who are quiet now will appear if Wexford get relegated on Sunday evening with their agenda, he is the problem this is the problem, county board, and so on. My advice to every poster here with Wexford hurlings best interest at heart is to not reply to these clowns. Let them post whatever they want. If they hide behind anonymity to score a point on somebody, then that is their own problem. All they want is a reaction. Don't give it to them.

My da is a Leeds fan all his life so he is going to have a tough day on Sunday but he said if only 1 are to stay up, he will gladly sacrifice Leeds.

Unfortunately the match is not on GAA GO but I'll be shouting at the radio and dying for a purple and gold win. UP WEXFORD.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1729 - 25/05/2023 09:55:00    2481433

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Replying To Onfor15:  "There is some seriously delusional nonsense about building teams around lads who aren't good enough for the current panel. We have no one under the age of 25 who is good enough to be on our best 15. Therefore we are still relying on much older/tired lads who would be far better off as impact subs, but we cant afford to do the due to the lack of talent from 20 to 25."
I agree with you unfortunately. The lads aged 21-26 just arent up to the required standard. We need to get the lads from the last 2 promising under 20 teams up to first 15 inter county standard asap. We also need lads like Cian Molloy and AJ Redmond to commit to the set up, I know its a huge commitment but its very disappointing to lose lads that have hurled for Wexford since they were 13/14

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 25/05/2023 09:57:57    2481436

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Apparently Damien Reck may be available on Sunday. If fully fit it will strengthen our leaky defence. Jippo and OHanlon will need to up their game significantly bearing in mind that Westmeath won the ariel battles in that forgettable second half and scoring 4 goals is careless in the extreme. Dee Okeeffe is an absolute must against the cats. His experience and positional sense would be hugely beneficial. Maybe we should just go for it and do as Westmeath done in the second half. That is leaving the tactics in the dressing room and play with freedom. The so called tactics or lack of them simply hasn't worked in all our games so far so unless management can improve them why persist with a failed system.
This is a vital game. Lose and we might be facing 2nd tier hurling next year, depending on the result from Mullingar. Win and we can breathe easily again and restore some pride back.
I believe we can win but only if we play for the full 70+ minutes with all out passion and guts.
Verdict--- wexford to win by 3 points.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 254 - 25/05/2023 10:12:43    2481442

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "It is a different animal but I had a tougher time playing against some of those 20-25 year olds at club level than against some older senior panellists.

I now realise my post the other night was a bit over the top and cringe but Wexford never needed support as badly as they do on Sunday. If I was within a short hop of Wexford Park I would not want it to be said at 4pm on Sunday "Where were you"?

People can talk about players commiting all they want but if they don't feel they have the peoples support then why wouldn't they just walk away like the support has done? "Why doesn't he commit" - why would he would commit 4-5 nights a week and support won't even commit to 2-3 hours every few weeks?

I honestly believe the crowd can help this team over the line on Sunday. A decision, a free, etc is easier won if the crowd are calling for it. Referees are human and need to be swayed some times.

Last point - we know full well certain posters who are quiet now will appear if Wexford get relegated on Sunday evening with their agenda, he is the problem this is the problem, county board, and so on. My advice to every poster here with Wexford hurlings best interest at heart is to not reply to these clowns. Let them post whatever they want. If they hide behind anonymity to score a point on somebody, then that is their own problem. All they want is a reaction. Don't give it to them.

My da is a Leeds fan all his life so he is going to have a tough day on Sunday but he said if only 1 are to stay up, he will gladly sacrifice Leeds.

Unfortunately the match is not on GAA GO but I'll be shouting at the radio and dying for a purple and gold win. UP WEXFORD."
Would it be on the RTE player?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11692 - 25/05/2023 10:31:26    2481450

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A man in our club last night said "Win and we will talk about how we go forward, lose and we will talk about how we come back".

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1115 - 25/05/2023 10:31:35    2481451

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "A man in our club last night said "Win and we will talk about how we go forward, lose and we will talk about how we come back"."
That's exactly it. If we lose and get relegated we need to assess how we have ended up in this position. Survive on Sunday and we need to figure out how we never end up in this position again

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 25/05/2023 11:12:54    2481463

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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin:  "I like a lot of what you're saying in this post...at last haha. Some great points tbf. Think it all comes back pur underage across the board has and is a good few steps behind other counties, that's 10 years in the making. Even seeing some of the beatings our feile Champs have taken in recent years in the all Ireland feile na gaeil...I don't care about winning those at all, can be so irrelevant, but it was the lack of basic skills done correctly in comparison to other counties champions, listen no one is the finished article at u15 but still a bit worrying, especially when we've sent some clubs with huge numbers and population. But it was a little eye opening (before you can say hurling only, some of them teams had teams who'd won th football feile or been close in their counties too..we won't start on that one again) Regardless of result the next day, I think county board games officers and coaches will have to upbtheir game and be under a lot more scrutiny than before. 100% agree with you on how our club is not at th standard it can be and you're spot on with the investment in underage will have knock on effects for all these.
As for getting some lads to commit to county panels, I've felt like we've lagged behind other counties in the modern Era in accepting what being a county hurler means now, infairness to Davy he did inherit a lot of Liam Dunnes work but he did drag a lot of those lads into the modern almost professional Era (might have over done it a bit too) but it did weed out a lot of lads who didn't want to embrace it and that's fair enough too, can't force lads, some lads like Guiney, Andrew Shore etc were just a bit free spirited if you want to call it that. If lads don't want to put in the work they've no place in modern county hurling, no escaping it and if the new lads don't want to do that, better they don't go in than do half job and get exposed for it by a Kilkenny or Galway in Croke Park. Lads may have given out about Lee Chin being plastered all over social media etc but that's down to the work he's put in as a county hurler that he's given those chances, if that's what lads want use him as an example if they want, I don't what the modern 18/19/20 year old wants out of it. But it has to be driven by themselves and if they don't like being challenged by it, its not for them then. There is a lot more perks of being a county hurler nowadays than before.
See a lot of county's have development squads for another 20 or so lads behind the championship squad who are given same plans as senior squad and are assessed throughout year and brought in and out to fulfill in house games, training etc. If other counties can get lads to commit to doing that without getting even in proper with county squads, surely we can do something similar or just get lads to commit to a senior squad proper. Think we need to embrace the way modern hurling has gone, we have no choice, it's what we have to do. It's what happened Offaly at the beginning of their fall (before it went really really bad, still can't see that complete collapse happening...if we act now) where they didn't embrace the S&C from u14-senior, the tactics, the underage development etc, they were left behind and then collapsed more and more as the gap got bigger with players not coming through ready for new Era.
Good post, a lot of great points and questions. You do seem to be fairly on front line with your club too and ready to learn from all you're saying, that's great attitude. Might not agree with the football bit but we'll get over that. All want the same thing, to stay up and up standards and belief across the board.
I did think this was a lot of lads last chance to get deep in the champioship and expected a few lean years ahead but that's been speed up a bit now. At least it might also speed up the changes needed and has put everything into the spot light which is no harm either so long as they're acted on."
Lots of good points being made here and obviously people with diffenert bits of information about what happens at club and county level.

At county level, I do know that the Director of Hurling who has been appointed is supposed to be excellent and this year worked with a group of 18s/19s who did not make the 20s panel. Some of these players such as young Byrne and Sean rowley ended up playing so well they made the 20s panel. Apparently there was also a plan for last years 20s to form a development panel and play games but numbers were not there due to some players who have been mentioned not having the interest. Someone mentioned earlier why that is and it defintely should be looked at. I do sometimes wonder if the pressurised environment in Wexford is an enjoyable one. Lots of expectation for success that we never have had!

From looking at twitter it seems that there has been a big investment in S and C in the last year or two but obviously that takes time to come through and size was defintely not an issue for our 20s this year.

The club scene is another ball game and if we are all honest, it seems that the level of hurling and football at underage is not at the level of other counties and probably hasn`t been for a long time. the stat you use about Feile is interesting. the best u14 team in the county should be at least competitive every year and if they are not then it tells a story. Co minor managers etc can`t work magic. that work starts in the club and in the homes. If a boy or girl is hurling once/twice a week and not practicing in between they will not develop to a high level. They are probably playing soccer in the park or in school every lunchtime. Maybe its time everyone realised they have a part to play in improving the standard rather than using a blame game. We all like to blame football (and the other way around), blame the management, players, co board, coaches.. It does seem like a lot of good things have been happening but maybe a shock to the system is needed to get everyone working again.

Keith Rossitors podcast was really good and worth a listen.

wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 121 - 25/05/2023 11:47:33    2481473

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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin:  "I like a lot of what you're saying in this post...at last haha. Some great points tbf. Think it all comes back pur underage across the board has and is a good few steps behind other counties, that's 10 years in the making. Even seeing some of the beatings our feile Champs have taken in recent years in the all Ireland feile na gaeil...I don't care about winning those at all, can be so irrelevant, but it was the lack of basic skills done correctly in comparison to other counties champions, listen no one is the finished article at u15 but still a bit worrying, especially when we've sent some clubs with huge numbers and population. But it was a little eye opening (before you can say hurling only, some of them teams had teams who'd won th football feile or been close in their counties too..we won't start on that one again) Regardless of result the next day, I think county board games officers and coaches will have to upbtheir game and be under a lot more scrutiny than before. 100% agree with you on how our club is not at th standard it can be and you're spot on with the investment in underage will have knock on effects for all these.
As for getting some lads to commit to county panels, I've felt like we've lagged behind other counties in the modern Era in accepting what being a county hurler means now, infairness to Davy he did inherit a lot of Liam Dunnes work but he did drag a lot of those lads into the modern almost professional Era (might have over done it a bit too) but it did weed out a lot of lads who didn't want to embrace it and that's fair enough too, can't force lads, some lads like Guiney, Andrew Shore etc were just a bit free spirited if you want to call it that. If lads don't want to put in the work they've no place in modern county hurling, no escaping it and if the new lads don't want to do that, better they don't go in than do half job and get exposed for it by a Kilkenny or Galway in Croke Park. Lads may have given out about Lee Chin being plastered all over social media etc but that's down to the work he's put in as a county hurler that he's given those chances, if that's what lads want use him as an example if they want, I don't what the modern 18/19/20 year old wants out of it. But it has to be driven by themselves and if they don't like being challenged by it, its not for them then. There is a lot more perks of being a county hurler nowadays than before.
See a lot of county's have development squads for another 20 or so lads behind the championship squad who are given same plans as senior squad and are assessed throughout year and brought in and out to fulfill in house games, training etc. If other counties can get lads to commit to doing that without getting even in proper with county squads, surely we can do something similar or just get lads to commit to a senior squad proper. Think we need to embrace the way modern hurling has gone, we have no choice, it's what we have to do. It's what happened Offaly at the beginning of their fall (before it went really really bad, still can't see that complete collapse happening...if we act now) where they didn't embrace the S&C from u14-senior, the tactics, the underage development etc, they were left behind and then collapsed more and more as the gap got bigger with players not coming through ready for new Era.
Good post, a lot of great points and questions. You do seem to be fairly on front line with your club too and ready to learn from all you're saying, that's great attitude. Might not agree with the football bit but we'll get over that. All want the same thing, to stay up and up standards and belief across the board.
I did think this was a lot of lads last chance to get deep in the champioship and expected a few lean years ahead but that's been speed up a bit now. At least it might also speed up the changes needed and has put everything into the spot light which is no harm either so long as they're acted on."
Glad we are agreeing on most things: D As regards the 2nd panel of lads behind the championship panel I think Keith Rossiter did have that at u20 this year, they even played games against other counties not just in house games, and there is the celtic challenge panel at minor. So it's probably a little unfair on the CB and underage management teams to say we are doing nothing that way. And I met our u14 panel on the way back from PUC after the League game there seemed to be around 40 of them, though chatting to a couple of them they had only been together a couple of weeks and were looking forward to their 1st game for the county which was I think only a couple weeks later against Dublin. It was great to see that they had been brought down to see our u20s and Seniors, although we lost both games our performances in both were up there with the best I saw this year from them.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11692 - 25/05/2023 12:41:20    2481485

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Replying To wexfordwin:  "Lots of good points being made here and obviously people with diffenert bits of information about what happens at club and county level.

At county level, I do know that the Director of Hurling who has been appointed is supposed to be excellent and this year worked with a group of 18s/19s who did not make the 20s panel. Some of these players such as young Byrne and Sean rowley ended up playing so well they made the 20s panel. Apparently there was also a plan for last years 20s to form a development panel and play games but numbers were not there due to some players who have been mentioned not having the interest. Someone mentioned earlier why that is and it defintely should be looked at. I do sometimes wonder if the pressurised environment in Wexford is an enjoyable one. Lots of expectation for success that we never have had!

From looking at twitter it seems that there has been a big investment in S and C in the last year or two but obviously that takes time to come through and size was defintely not an issue for our 20s this year.

The club scene is another ball game and if we are all honest, it seems that the level of hurling and football at underage is not at the level of other counties and probably hasn`t been for a long time. the stat you use about Feile is interesting. the best u14 team in the county should be at least competitive every year and if they are not then it tells a story. Co minor managers etc can`t work magic. that work starts in the club and in the homes. If a boy or girl is hurling once/twice a week and not practicing in between they will not develop to a high level. They are probably playing soccer in the park or in school every lunchtime. Maybe its time everyone realised they have a part to play in improving the standard rather than using a blame game. We all like to blame football (and the other way around), blame the management, players, co board, coaches.. It does seem like a lot of good things have been happening but maybe a shock to the system is needed to get everyone working again.

Keith Rossitors podcast was really good and worth a listen."
All the Offaly lads around me in Carlow commented on how big our u20 team looked when they ran out onto the pitch. There's definitely signs of improvement the last couple of years that way.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11692 - 25/05/2023 12:46:34    2481486

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Replying To Viking66:  "All the Offaly lads around me in Carlow commented on how big our u20 team looked when they ran out onto the pitch. There's definitely signs of improvement the last couple of years that way."
From conversations I have had this week, it seems there is very good work happening to improve things. Unfortunately that will get lost in the hysteria of our current situation. I was told by someone who would know hurling inside out that the changes set to happen at co board at the end of the year could have a very negative effect.

wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 121 - 25/05/2023 13:05:44    2481498

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Replying To wexfordwin:  "From conversations I have had this week, it seems there is very good work happening to improve things. Unfortunately that will get lost in the hysteria of our current situation. I was told by someone who would know hurling inside out that the changes set to happen at co board at the end of the year could have a very negative effect."
What changes might these being? I'm not someone who knows hurling inside out but from the outside looking in I don't have any real complaints about the Board. Wexford GAA seem to have been run well compared to other counties off the pitch. OK the appointment of Darragh Egan hasn't worked out, but just how much of what happens on the pitch can the Board influence apart from the appointments of managers? The Centre of Excellence looks a good facility from my only visit to it for the challenge game against Waterford, albeit one that needs further work. And we aren't in huge debt over it. The floodlights in the Park are a much needed addition and will be brilliant come the tail end of the club championships, as well as meaning other income flows are now possible. I don't think money has been wasted, or not spent where it was needed. I know our Senior intercounty panels were well resourced. Maybe one thing I'd like to see would be more, and better, coaches going around the schools and clubs more often. But overall off the pitch I don't have too many complaints about how Wexford GAA has been run.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11692 - 25/05/2023 13:39:20    2481511

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Interesting listening to the Wexford hurling podcast this morning they made two good points about our club championship. Ed Rowsome and Keith Rossiter pointed out a championship played over 6 weeks when there is 52 weeks in a year is simply not enough top hurling for club players in the county. They also pointed out how we are the only county in Ireland where 18 year olds . We are robbing the likes of Cillian Byrne, Sean Rowley and Simon Roche a year where they could develop hugely playing senior and intermediate hurling. We need to rectify both these issues for next year. We need to get the small things right in this county they all add up"
Yes I have been saying this for since they changed it. The current split season in the county isnt fit for purpose. How can a team be out of a championship in 6 weeks (if the finish 5th). Its beyond a joke. And before someone says that the club player knows when they are playing, they still did with two weeks hurling, two weeks football, the vast majority are duel players anyways so are still playing the same number of weeks. I looked at the league walkovers and participation from 2019, 2022 and this year just finished the groups stages (leaving out 2020 and 2021 covid years).

In hurling in 2019 (old championship structure), there was 59 teams entered with only 7 walkovers.
2022: 60 teams entered with a slight increase to 9 walkovers.
2023: 58 teams entered, with a whopping 16 walkovers, a massive increase.

Then lets take football:
2019 53 teams entered, 19 walkovers
2022, 57 teams entered. 25 walkovers
2023: 51 teams entered, 36 walkovers

The figures speak for themselves, when players are disinterested in playing a league they wont stay around for championship, the football league unfortunately has become a farce. It needs to go back to alternative weekends, at least then you have a competitive league and championship for both codes.

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 403 - 25/05/2023 14:24:21    2481530

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Replying To alwaysasub:  "Yes I have been saying this for since they changed it. The current split season in the county isnt fit for purpose. How can a team be out of a championship in 6 weeks (if the finish 5th). Its beyond a joke. And before someone says that the club player knows when they are playing, they still did with two weeks hurling, two weeks football, the vast majority are duel players anyways so are still playing the same number of weeks. I looked at the league walkovers and participation from 2019, 2022 and this year just finished the groups stages (leaving out 2020 and 2021 covid years).

In hurling in 2019 (old championship structure), there was 59 teams entered with only 7 walkovers.
2022: 60 teams entered with a slight increase to 9 walkovers.
2023: 58 teams entered, with a whopping 16 walkovers, a massive increase.

Then lets take football:
2019 53 teams entered, 19 walkovers
2022, 57 teams entered. 25 walkovers
2023: 51 teams entered, 36 walkovers

The figures speak for themselves, when players are disinterested in playing a league they wont stay around for championship, the football league unfortunately has become a farce. It needs to go back to alternative weekends, at least then you have a competitive league and championship for both codes."
If we go back to alternate weeks, or even alternate blocks of 2 weeks, it's not going to increase the amount of games or training most of our Senior intercounty hurlers and footballers are getting in either hurling or football though, except the few that only play hurling or only play football. So it's unlikely to make any difference to our Senior Intercounty teams fortunes.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11692 - 25/05/2023 14:33:47    2481535

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Replying To alwaysasub:  "Yes I have been saying this for since they changed it. The current split season in the county isnt fit for purpose. How can a team be out of a championship in 6 weeks (if the finish 5th). Its beyond a joke. And before someone says that the club player knows when they are playing, they still did with two weeks hurling, two weeks football, the vast majority are duel players anyways so are still playing the same number of weeks. I looked at the league walkovers and participation from 2019, 2022 and this year just finished the groups stages (leaving out 2020 and 2021 covid years).

In hurling in 2019 (old championship structure), there was 59 teams entered with only 7 walkovers.
2022: 60 teams entered with a slight increase to 9 walkovers.
2023: 58 teams entered, with a whopping 16 walkovers, a massive increase.

Then lets take football:
2019 53 teams entered, 19 walkovers
2022, 57 teams entered. 25 walkovers
2023: 51 teams entered, 36 walkovers

The figures speak for themselves, when players are disinterested in playing a league they wont stay around for championship, the football league unfortunately has become a farce. It needs to go back to alternative weekends, at least then you have a competitive league and championship for both codes."
100%

Waterford and Wexford are two teams performing terribly this year and the same 2 teams running the ridiculous split season of hurling first etc etc.

Been saying it for nigh on 2 years now, it's a disaster, how people here can complain about our players playing football and not getting as many hours training hurling yet support this current structure cos they don't want hurling only clubs to have an advantage is beyond hypocritical.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1325 - 25/05/2023 14:47:50    2481542

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Replying To Viking66:  "What changes might these being? I'm not someone who knows hurling inside out but from the outside looking in I don't have any real complaints about the Board. Wexford GAA seem to have been run well compared to other counties off the pitch. OK the appointment of Darragh Egan hasn't worked out, but just how much of what happens on the pitch can the Board influence apart from the appointments of managers? The Centre of Excellence looks a good facility from my only visit to it for the challenge game against Waterford, albeit one that needs further work. And we aren't in huge debt over it. The floodlights in the Park are a much needed addition and will be brilliant come the tail end of the club championships, as well as meaning other income flows are now possible. I don't think money has been wasted, or not spent where it was needed. I know our Senior intercounty panels were well resourced. Maybe one thing I'd like to see would be more, and better, coaches going around the schools and clubs more often. But overall off the pitch I don't have too many complaints about how Wexford GAA has been run."
I'd have to agree with Viking66 - For me our county board is been run very well currently compared to the hole we were in during Liam Dunnes tenure. We were struggling to get a jersey sponsor then. Money wise and commercial wise we are doing really well. Big money has been spent on Wexford Park and Ferns COE and little debt remains. Our Senior teams are very well resourced and commercial income is at an all time high.

I do think more emphasis needs to be put on school / club coaching and not plough everything into the development squads. The quality of coaches needs to be improved and stop expecting college graduates to become coaches .. The player pathway was launched last year but seems to be totally forgot about and I haven't heard one more word about it.

MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 136 - 25/05/2023 14:52:29    2481543

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I think a lot of the complaints about the Wexford county board are agenda driven, personal attacks with no substance.
I genuinely thought I was seeing things when people were moaning about making a big deal of the switching on of the floodlights. It was January and Wexford got 12-13k people in to the park and children were free if I remember correct? It was a lot better than the league match v Clare, that is for certain.
People complain about the jersey sales, sponsorships, etc - where does money come from?

I think everything which people perceive as a weakness of Wexford (e.g. S&C) is in progress of being acted on and results won't be seen over night but rather than rushing any appointment etc they do think before they act.

The weaknesses which next need to be addressed are schools hurling and hurling in New Ross. I am tired banging a drum but every young chap should get an opportunity to play A-level schools hurling. How that happens, well the Americans put a man on the moon once Wexford can get young lads to Ferns a couple of evenings per week.

First and foremost, Wexford need to win on Sunday and beyond that we can sort anything out.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1115 - 25/05/2023 14:57:06    2481547

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Replying To Viking66:  "If we go back to alternate weeks, or even alternate blocks of 2 weeks, it's not going to increase the amount of games or training most of our Senior intercounty hurlers and footballers are getting in either hurling or football though, except the few that only play hurling or only play football. So it's unlikely to make any difference to our Senior Intercounty teams fortunes."
This is a good point that many people seem to miss. It would still be the same number of matches, over the same calendar window. All that would really change is that things would come in a different order.

The only feasible way that a change might lead to lads getting more hurling, and therefore maybe improving the fortunes of our county teams in the long run, would be if clubs continued to concentrate on hurling even during a "football week" or "a football block". But then that would likely lead again to complaints from "the football crowd", that "football is getting short shrift in too many clubs, and something has to be done about it".

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2216 - 25/05/2023 15:14:32    2481553

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "This is a good point that many people seem to miss. It would still be the same number of matches, over the same calendar window. All that would really change is that things would come in a different order.

The only feasible way that a change might lead to lads getting more hurling, and therefore maybe improving the fortunes of our county teams in the long run, would be if clubs continued to concentrate on hurling even during a "football week" or "a football block". But then that would likely lead again to complaints from "the football crowd", that "football is getting short shrift in too many clubs, and something has to be done about it"."
When you see a lad like Matthew O Hanlon play in a club football championship game you can see how much he puts into, and gets out of, it. He doesn't just go through the motions. And like every dual player, that has expressed an opinion on the subject, he is firmly behind the split season as it is. He said as much in an interview after a game on the Wexford TV. And even for the few lads who don't play football it has its benefits. Shane and Damien Reck were able to get a longer spell of travelling in because of it, and didn't have to miss too much intercounty training. Imagine if their club hurling games were spread out til October? They might have decided to take this year off altogether.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11692 - 25/05/2023 16:02:09    2481564

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "This is a good point that many people seem to miss. It would still be the same number of matches, over the same calendar window. All that would really change is that things would come in a different order.

The only feasible way that a change might lead to lads getting more hurling, and therefore maybe improving the fortunes of our county teams in the long run, would be if clubs continued to concentrate on hurling even during a "football week" or "a football block". But then that would likely lead again to complaints from "the football crowd", that "football is getting short shrift in too many clubs, and something has to be done about it"."
When you see a lad like Matthew O Hanlon play in a club football championship game you can see how much he puts into, and gets out of, it. He doesn't just go through the motions. And like every dual player, that has expressed an opinion on the subject, he is firmly behind the split season as it is. He said as much in an interview after a game on the Wexford TV. And even for the few lads who don't play football it has its benefits. Shane and Damien Reck were able to get a longer spell of travelling in because of it, and didn't have to miss too much intercounty training. Imagine if their club hurling games were spread out til October? They might have decided to take this year off altogether.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11692 - 25/05/2023 16:03:06    2481565

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Do people actually believe we can win on Sunday after that horror show last week,I can see us be beating by at least 5points?

Lockerroomboy (Wexford) - Posts: 428 - 25/05/2023 16:11:03    2481569

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