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Late County Finals - Split Season

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Replying To Viking66:  "Take it you weren't a dual player then?"
I can understand why you are saying what you are saying though.

Wexford actually do guarantee an ok championship in each code. Minimum of 6 games, in hurling they could play up to 9 games. That's a fine season, it's actually not possible in all counties.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4578 - 15/06/2025 11:13:31    2617656

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Replying To brianb:  "
Replying To Pikeman96:  "Yes, there was certainty, despite how whoever wrote that line being quoted was guilty of wording it a bit clumsily.

There was a master club fixtures calendar put out back in early February that set out when club championships would start, based on several different scenarios, e.g.:
- if our senior hurlers went out in an All-Ireland quarter-final and our footballers didn't reach the latter stages of TC
- if our senior hurlers didn't reach that stage and our footballers went out early too
- if our hurlers went out early and our footballers got to TC semi-final
- if our hurlers went further and our footballers went out early
- and so on.

There was even the optimistic scenario of how club championships would be affected if our hurlers happened to reach the All-Ireland Final. Overall, it allowed for every possible set of circumstances. And in all bar one of those circumstances, the start date for the club championships would be two weekends after the second of the inter-county teams went out of their championship.

In just one set of circumstances, the club championship would have to start midweek - so 10 or 11 days after the relevant county side lost.

Hence the clumsily-worded "expected to commence approximately two weeks after".

More the case that "will commence two weeks after, barring one particular set of circumstances, in which case one and a half weeks after".

But there was certainty all right."
A lot of ifs and buts there for something so certain."
No ifs or burs. The Wexford club championships aren't starting until June 28th or later. That's been a certainty since the start of the year. So players have been able to plan to take holidays, go travelling etc before that date. Many of ours have done just that. No ifs or buts. So what are you talking about?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16310 - 15/06/2025 11:17:20    2617659

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Replying To brianb:  "
Replying To Pikeman96:  "Yes, there was certainty, despite how whoever wrote that line being quoted was guilty of wording it a bit clumsily.

There was a master club fixtures calendar put out back in early February that set out when club championships would start, based on several different scenarios, e.g.:
- if our senior hurlers went out in an All-Ireland quarter-final and our footballers didn't reach the latter stages of TC
- if our senior hurlers didn't reach that stage and our footballers went out early too
- if our hurlers went out early and our footballers got to TC semi-final
- if our hurlers went further and our footballers went out early
- and so on.

There was even the optimistic scenario of how club championships would be affected if our hurlers happened to reach the All-Ireland Final. Overall, it allowed for every possible set of circumstances. And in all bar one of those circumstances, the start date for the club championships would be two weekends after the second of the inter-county teams went out of their championship.

In just one set of circumstances, the club championship would have to start midweek - so 10 or 11 days after the relevant county side lost.

Hence the clumsily-worded "expected to commence approximately two weeks after".

More the case that "will commence two weeks after, barring one particular set of circumstances, in which case one and a half weeks after".

But there was certainty all right."
A lot of ifs and buts there for something so certain."
To be fair there's less certainty in Wexford because they go a bit rogue with their competitions that can last up to17 rounds between the 2 codes.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4578 - 15/06/2025 11:24:08    2617664

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Replying To Whammo86:  "
Replying To brianb:  "[quote=Pikeman96:  "Yes, there was certainty, despite how whoever wrote that line being quoted was guilty of wording it a bit clumsily.

There was a master club fixtures calendar put out back in early February that set out when club championships would start, based on several different scenarios, e.g.:
- if our senior hurlers went out in an All-Ireland quarter-final and our footballers didn't reach the latter stages of TC
- if our senior hurlers didn't reach that stage and our footballers went out early too
- if our hurlers went out early and our footballers got to TC semi-final
- if our hurlers went further and our footballers went out early
- and so on.

There was even the optimistic scenario of how club championships would be affected if our hurlers happened to reach the All-Ireland Final. Overall, it allowed for every possible set of circumstances. And in all bar one of those circumstances, the start date for the club championships would be two weekends after the second of the inter-county teams went out of their championship.

In just one set of circumstances, the club championship would have to start midweek - so 10 or 11 days after the relevant county side lost.

Hence the clumsily-worded "expected to commence approximately two weeks after".

More the case that "will commence two weeks after, barring one particular set of circumstances, in which case one and a half weeks after".

But there was certainty all right."
A lot of ifs and buts there for something so certain."
To be fair there's less certainty in Wexford because they go a bit rogue with their competitions that can last up to17 rounds between the 2 codes."]We try do our best for our clubs and club players.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16310 - 15/06/2025 15:18:50    2617729

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Replying To Viking66:  "
Replying To Whammo86:  "[quote=brianb:  "[quote=Pikeman96:  "Yes, there was certainty, despite how whoever wrote that line being quoted was guilty of wording it a bit clumsily.

There was a master club fixtures calendar put out back in early February that set out when club championships would start, based on several different scenarios, e.g.:
- if our senior hurlers went out in an All-Ireland quarter-final and our footballers didn't reach the latter stages of TC
- if our senior hurlers didn't reach that stage and our footballers went out early too
- if our hurlers went out early and our footballers got to TC semi-final
- if our hurlers went further and our footballers went out early
- and so on.

There was even the optimistic scenario of how club championships would be affected if our hurlers happened to reach the All-Ireland Final. Overall, it allowed for every possible set of circumstances. And in all bar one of those circumstances, the start date for the club championships would be two weekends after the second of the inter-county teams went out of their championship.

In just one set of circumstances, the club championship would have to start midweek - so 10 or 11 days after the relevant county side lost.

Hence the clumsily-worded "expected to commence approximately two weeks after".

More the case that "will commence two weeks after, barring one particular set of circumstances, in which case one and a half weeks after".

But there was certainty all right."
A lot of ifs and buts there for something so certain."
To be fair there's less certainty in Wexford because they go a bit rogue with their competitions that can last up to17 rounds between the 2 codes."]We try do our best for our clubs and club players."]Yeah, it's not a criticism, I'd want more counties to do that.

The thing about it is that Wexford being close to Dublin makes it easier for them to have the odd mid week game.

If you had to run all your rounds at the weekend you'd be going to the 3rd weekend in November, there's only 5 weeks until Christmas then and not enough time to run off Leinster club championships in 2 codes.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4578 - 15/06/2025 16:00:18    2617747

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Replying To Viking66:  "
Replying To brianb:  "[quote=Pikeman96:  "Yes, there was certainty, despite how whoever wrote that line being quoted was guilty of wording it a bit clumsily.

There was a master club fixtures calendar put out back in early February that set out when club championships would start, based on several different scenarios, e.g.:
- if our senior hurlers went out in an All-Ireland quarter-final and our footballers didn't reach the latter stages of TC
- if our senior hurlers didn't reach that stage and our footballers went out early too
- if our hurlers went out early and our footballers got to TC semi-final
- if our hurlers went further and our footballers went out early
- and so on.

There was even the optimistic scenario of how club championships would be affected if our hurlers happened to reach the All-Ireland Final. Overall, it allowed for every possible set of circumstances. And in all bar one of those circumstances, the start date for the club championships would be two weekends after the second of the inter-county teams went out of their championship.

In just one set of circumstances, the club championship would have to start midweek - so 10 or 11 days after the relevant county side lost.

Hence the clumsily-worded "expected to commence approximately two weeks after".

More the case that "will commence two weeks after, barring one particular set of circumstances, in which case one and a half weeks after".

But there was certainty all right."
A lot of ifs and buts there for something so certain."
No ifs or burs. The Wexford club championships aren't starting until June 28th or later. That's been a certainty since the start of the year. So players have been able to plan to take holidays, go travelling etc before that date. Many of ours have done just that. No ifs or buts. So what are you talking about?"]Got it - so certainly not starting before the school summer holidays but some time after that at a certain date to yet be announced.

It does make sense though - no point in not playing over the summer as is happening with the split season in most other counties.

brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 465 - 15/06/2025 17:58:16    2617787

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