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They caused 3 months training for 2 games!
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2447 - 19/06/2025 13:28:40 2619227 Link 1 |
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Ammm....if the All-Ireland Football Final is August weekend 3, then assuming you give the players a week off to either celebrate or drown sorrows, the competing counties can't start their club championships until August weekend 5 (if there is one) or September weekend 1. That only gives them eight weekends to play them off if they're to have them completed by end of October, in time for the regular start of the provincial championships. Suggested "solution" seems to be to allow the club champions in those counties to enter the provincial championships at a later stage, but to give them the four weeks back, you'd basically be parachuting their club champions into a provincial final, or at least a semi-final. Now consider the provincial Intermediate & Junior club championships, where the representatives from the All-Ireland Final counties may not have contributed a single player to the county squad. Why should they get that advantage over the Intermediate & Junior representatives from all other counties in that province? And you can't say "just play off the second & third grades in those counties earlier". As long as even one club in those grades has somebody on the county squad, that club shouldn't be made play club championship without them, and that would hold up the whole thing anyway. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2962 - 19/06/2025 13:36:54 2619231 Link 0 |
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Exactly. Plus when you had dominant clubs like Crossmaglen and Corofin who were at that stage in consecutive years and also had a significant number of players on their respective county panels, it was completely unfair to those lads and their county teams. They had to be at the peak of their powers for a full 12 months, and rolled straight into the next. It made no sense to have it dragged out so long. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2401 - 19/06/2025 14:09:40 2619244 Link 0 |
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August 3rd & 4th 2024 until Saturday November 30th 2024 was 18 weekends. The Leinster Club Championship hurling and football were completed.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8965 - 19/06/2025 14:40:28 2619262 Link 0 |
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The Leinster club championships weren't over on the 30th November.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16361 - 19/06/2025 15:09:51 2619275 Link 0 |
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The Leinster club championships weren't over on the 30th November.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16361 - 19/06/2025 15:10:05 2619277 Link 0 |
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Did intermediate and/or junior finish later? The higher level usually sets the trend for what is acceptable. The higher level usually comes under scrutiny if scheduling or format is perceived as unfair. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8965 - 19/06/2025 17:27:23 2619313 Link 0 |
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You hit on a key point. The demands on successful players are too high and because of those. Trying to accommodate players being involved in everything leads to too many players not getting enough games. If the National League were to be decoupled from the championship again, maybe provincial club and All Ireland club could be played at the same time as those. The idea would be that club championships be finished as early as possible and no later than November. December and January would be break months as much as possible. County champions don't run straight through into a Provincial campaign. I think you could do more with the All Ireland too in that case. Something along the lines of 3 tiers. 12, 10, 10 with 2 groups of 5 or 6 per tier. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4585 - 20/06/2025 05:02:20 2619374 Link 0 |
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No. Maybe down in elitist Kerry , but we are all equal up here ;-)
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16361 - 20/06/2025 06:02:03 2619376 Link 0 |
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You're talking a season along the lines of February March for National League and Provincial/All Ireland club. You then have like 39 weeks until the end of November to play with. An inter county season that is 19 weeks long could accommodate Provincial championship plus then an All Ireland series based around 2 groups of 6. 6 for Provincial, break, 12 weeks for an 8 round All Ireland. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4585 - 20/06/2025 09:38:05 2619397 Link 0 |
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https://hoganstand.com/article/index/334458 The finals were on the 30th of November? legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8965 - 20/06/2025 10:26:10 2619408 Link 0 |
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. . . so the solution was to pull the finals back into the calendar year. Another solution would have been to push provincial club semi finals and finals into the following year allowing better preparation for the games. brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 473 - 20/06/2025 10:37:20 2619409 Link 0 |
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Why the obsession with wrapping up club championships in a hurry, forcing teams to play in bad weather to run off club provincial and club all Irelands over the winter. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1453 - 21/06/2025 07:09:11 2619567 Link 0 |
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Around 8% of Clubs play in Provincial competitions, half them get 1 game. Let's not ruin life for the 96% of clubs (possibly 98% of teams) Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2447 - 21/06/2025 11:15:39 2619595 Link 0 |
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This doesn't work. Do you run provincial intermediate club championships? Do these clubs also get straight into the quarterfinals of their county championships? Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4585 - 21/06/2025 12:26:37 2619604 Link 0 |
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All the more reason why the county champions of the previous year should represent. Start with that and before the club games. Because it is knockout half gone the first week. It also prepares them to defend their county title.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3116 - 21/06/2025 14:45:17 2619623 Link 0 |