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So the GPA are calling for pre season completions to be scrapped. I for one never understand the obsession with wanting to be scrapped. Teams are only going to be training at this time of the year anyway so what's the issue with playing actual games? oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1623 - 10/10/2022 17:00:40 2443452 Link
Replying To oneoff: "So the GPA are calling for pre season completions to be scrapped. I for one never understand the obsession with wanting to be scrapped. Teams are only going to be training at this time of the year anyway so what's the issue with playing actual games?" Yes teams will be playing challenges or doing training if they were to be scrapped. Pre Season is there to experiment and try out as many new or newish players as possible before the NFL. GPA i think just love the sound of their own voices. Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3609 - 10/10/2022 17:40:15 2443461 Link
Replying To oneoff: "So the GPA are calling for pre season completions to be scrapped. I for one never understand the obsession with wanting to be scrapped. Teams are only going to be training at this time of the year anyway so what's the issue with playing actual games?" Teams will still be playing games. All counties play plenty of friendlies on top of these competitions anyway. Having knock out competitions for pre season is silly anyway. Just let teams play as many or as few games as they like with no need for them to be part of a trophy/competition KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3758 - 10/10/2022 17:57:42 2443464 Link
Replying To oneoff: "So the GPA are calling for pre season completions to be scrapped. I for one never understand the obsession with wanting to be scrapped. Teams are only going to be training at this time of the year anyway so what's the issue with playing actual games?" Teams will be training any way but will be playing loads of games anyway. Its just removing competitions. Having knock out cups for pre season is ridiculous anyway. Just let teams pick and choose as many games as they like. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3758 - 10/10/2022 18:32:19 2443473 Link
Replying To oneoff: "So the GPA are calling for pre season completions to be scrapped. I for one never understand the obsession with wanting to be scrapped. Teams are only going to be training at this time of the year anyway so what's the issue with playing actual games?" You dont need to have competitions especially knock out cups in pre season though. Far easier if you just let teams have whatever amount of games etc they like without any competitions. you dont see many soccer sides playing a knock out cup competition to prep for the premiership. same with most other sports. some may have a sponsors backed competition as in 3/4 games all with few different teams backed by a sponsor but that isnt the same as these games. nobody who says scrap these competitions says teams shouldnt be playing games just theres zero need for them to be a cup or league KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3758 - 10/10/2022 18:58:59 2443476 Link
Replying To oneoff: "So the GPA are calling for pre season completions to be scrapped. I for one never understand the obsession with wanting to be scrapped. Teams are only going to be training at this time of the year anyway so what's the issue with playing actual games?" You dont need the competitions. its pre season preparing for the league and championship. the GPA know teams are playing games already why do you need to be playing in a competition especially knock out cups simply to prepare for the league. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3758 - 10/10/2022 19:46:33 2443484 Link
Replying To oneoff: "So the GPA are calling for pre season completions to be scrapped. I for one never understand the obsession with wanting to be scrapped. Teams are only going to be training at this time of the year anyway so what's the issue with playing actual games?" How many sports have pre season competitions though? Just leave the teams play friendlies. theyre already playing them. just no need at all for organised knock out cup competitions before the league. nobody is saying removing the pre season competitions means teams wont be playing games. they will. they already play loads of pre season friendlies... KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3758 - 10/10/2022 20:27:27 2443489 Link
Replying To Gaa_lover: "Yes teams will be playing challenges or doing training if they were to be scrapped. Pre Season is there to experiment and try out as many new or newish players as possible before the NFL. GPA i think just love the sound of their own voices." GPA should be scrapped Thejampot (Leitrim) - Posts: 354 - 10/10/2022 21:47:50 2443504 Link
Impressive how someone can give six versions of the same answer so I'm not sure what onr to reply to. oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1623 - 11/10/2022 08:18:47 2443511 Link
Replying To oneoff: "Impressive how someone can give six versions of the same answer so I'm not sure what onr to reply to." My thoughts exactly. Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1615 - 11/10/2022 10:08:31 2443525 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "How many sports have pre season competitions though? Just leave the teams play friendlies. theyre already playing them. just no need at all for organised knock out cup competitions before the league. nobody is saying removing the pre season competitions means teams wont be playing games. they will. they already play loads of pre season friendlies..." Soccer does. OK they might be Mickey mouse competitions but something has to justify the jaunts to far flung places. Asia Cup, the Amsterdam tournament in prior years. If teams are going to be palying games anyway why not have a wee edge to them? Speaking personally, I look forward to that first game of the new year in the McKenna Cup. There has been no county action for months and it's good to get a look at some up and coming players even if the weather is often cat. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9755 - 11/10/2022 10:18:07 2443530 Link
Probably an important point that looks like it's being missed here is that proceeds from the pre-season competitions (at least here in Leinster) go directly towards the injured players' fund. It's not exactly a fortune, but it's something anyway. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2856 - 11/10/2022 11:35:50 2443547 Link
Teams should only be starting training in Jan-Feb, not November to get ready for some mickey mouse tournament which matters to nobody. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1337 - 11/10/2022 11:39:24 2443548 Link
Replying To Lockjaw: "Soccer does. OK they might be Mickey mouse competitions but something has to justify the jaunts to far flung places. Asia Cup, the Amsterdam tournament in prior years. If teams are going to be palying games anyway why not have a wee edge to them? Speaking personally, I look forward to that first game of the new year in the McKenna Cup. There has been no county action for months and it's good to get a look at some up and coming players even if the weather is often cat." I look forward to the Walsh Cup and Byrne Cup every year. What is the advantage of scrapping them? Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15712 - 11/10/2022 11:51:52 2443552 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "How many sports have pre season competitions though? Just leave the teams play friendlies. theyre already playing them. just no need at all for organised knock out cup competitions before the league. nobody is saying removing the pre season competitions means teams wont be playing games. they will. they already play loads of pre season friendlies..." They are becoming more commonplace in soccer...albeit it's usually a marketing thing for teams to play in in destinations where they can fill stadiums. Usually aren't knockout though. Remember seeing a double header of Valencia v Inter and Man City v Ac Milan in some competition in NYC thebronze14 (Donegal) - Posts: 49 - 11/10/2022 12:51:54 2443563 Link
Replying To ExiledInWex: "Teams should only be starting training in Jan-Feb, not November to get ready for some mickey mouse tournament which matters to nobody." But that's not what they're training for.... oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1623 - 11/10/2022 13:16:15 2443570 Link
Replying To oneoff: "But that's not what they're training for...." Yeah the games to training ratio in GAA is ridiculous. County teams will be training anyway at that time of year so why not have them play a few games. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9755 - 11/10/2022 13:34:52 2443574 Link
Replying To Lockjaw: "Soccer does. OK they might be Mickey mouse competitions but something has to justify the jaunts to far flung places. Asia Cup, the Amsterdam tournament in prior years. If teams are going to be palying games anyway why not have a wee edge to them? Speaking personally, I look forward to that first game of the new year in the McKenna Cup. There has been no county action for months and it's good to get a look at some up and coming players even if the weather is often cat." Why would the O Bytne cup have more of an edge to a game compared to a friendly especially between sides with genuine aspirations of success later in the year. teams dont exactly say their year was a success if the only thing won is a pre season competition. pre season should be about playing games. no need to turn everything into a league or a cup now if its an annual fixture against the same team and you play for a trophy its different ie dublin meath play a pre season friendly and call it the '1991' trophy and it honours charities in both counties then fine but no need for a mini leinster championship or mini munster league in pre season before counties play the league and the provincial championship again... KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3758 - 11/10/2022 18:25:54 2443625 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "Why would the O Bytne cup have more of an edge to a game compared to a friendly especially between sides with genuine aspirations of success later in the year. teams dont exactly say their year was a success if the only thing won is a pre season competition. pre season should be about playing games. no need to turn everything into a league or a cup now if its an annual fixture against the same team and you play for a trophy its different ie dublin meath play a pre season friendly and call it the '1991' trophy and it honours charities in both counties then fine but no need for a mini leinster championship or mini munster league in pre season before counties play the league and the provincial championship again..." Why not? What harm are they doing? Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15712 - 12/10/2022 07:46:06 2443659 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "Why would the O Bytne cup have more of an edge to a game compared to a friendly especially between sides with genuine aspirations of success later in the year. teams dont exactly say their year was a success if the only thing won is a pre season competition. pre season should be about playing games. no need to turn everything into a league or a cup now if its an annual fixture against the same team and you play for a trophy its different ie dublin meath play a pre season friendly and call it the '1991' trophy and it honours charities in both counties then fine but no need for a mini leinster championship or mini munster league in pre season before counties play the league and the provincial championship again..." Honestly what are you on about? You say teams shouldn't be playing for a trophy in pre season yet in the next line you say they should. You say other sports don't have pre season completions despite the fact there clearly are in all feild sports. What exactly is your issue with them? oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1623 - 12/10/2022 08:41:59 2443662 Link