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The CPA did a great job but reality is club championships in many counties started no earlier and players left their clubs after the inter county season. Staging the hurling final first Sunday in August and football third Sunday of August for example wouldn't alter the current system too much but would improve it. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 974 - 05/09/2022 18:31:53 2439786 Link 0 |
I don't see why I should have sympathy for clubs doing poorly because their players have chosen to play in the USA. It's not like they're doing their best to play for their club and the GAA should be meeting them halfway. They've pretty explicitly shown that playing for their club is less a priority to them than playing in America, so why should the rest of the GAA be changing the calendar to suit a tiny number? CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1591 - 05/09/2022 20:00:33 2439795 Link 0 |
And when that's over there's the playoffs for relegation/promotion which will take you into the middle of November. Back training in the middle of January or sooner. Well done county board.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 1704 - 05/09/2022 20:32:25 2439801 Link 0 |
Spot on
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 8494 - 06/09/2022 09:23:56 2439816 Link 0 |
We wouldn't fit our club championships in before the start of the Leinster championships then. Those dates won't suit any dual county with dual clubs.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 8494 - 06/09/2022 09:26:14 2439817 Link 0 |
Munster Club Hurling and football draws made last night, if im not mistaken the finals of both will be the same time as last year, why is this the case after finishing the intercounty so early?? OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 529 - 06/09/2022 10:25:46 2439826 Link 0 |
I couldnt disagree with you more. Club games at this time of the year is seeing better attendances and far better quality of games. Finishing in December ensures the last of the club games are only played on the best pitches and bad pitches have a less of an impact on games. If you're only half way through in December then you're going to see awful games from a viewers perspective as a lot of pitches wont hold up. I've gone to club games in 3 different counties this year and they're a breath of fresh air compared to what you'll get with your proposal. Thats just my own personal opinion on it. I feel its working and no need for more tinkering. I'll be far less inclined to go to as many games as we enter October, November, etc... tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 3999 - 06/09/2022 10:49:45 2439830 Link 0 |
Just wondering if any other counties also do something we do here in Wexford, in that we also have club action during the inter-county season? Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 1482 - 06/09/2022 11:30:23 2439838 Link 0 |
Let Tyrone play their co final in December if they wish, split season is brilliant, Galway club teams in both codes have gotten to play a few championship games in August, most games will be done and dusted by end of September. It is a brilliant system, very club player (who are 99% of the members) friendly, long may it last in Galway anyway batitout (Galway) - Posts: 41 - 06/09/2022 13:33:19 2439845 Link 1 |
If your point is true then why haven't the majority of counties started their club championships any earlier? What is strange is some counties have started their championships even later with the split season; most starting late August, early September or one example late September. If the will is there to get two weeks between the two All Ireland Finals and space for some replays which I suspect it is, then how the split season has been managed so far won't stop a slight extension to the inter county seasons.
sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 974 - 06/09/2022 17:25:26 2439860 Link 0 |
Yes we play a competitive league of 15 games, great knowledge. And I wouldn't want to change that. I don't have a solution a suppose but I see Dublin are at the quarter final stage. Would have loved to see the championship in the height of summer in Tyrone, children off school, good crowds, good football etc. 7 league games and 1 championship game wouldn't be enough. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2061 - 06/09/2022 17:58:04 2439865 Link 0 |
I've noticed that in a lot of counties but in Galway in particular that theyre running the junior competitions off earlier or starting them much earlier than senior and intermediate. I think this is very unfair on Junior clubs and giving a huge advantage to the big clubs with 3-4 teams. I always thought senior was started first followed by intermediate, etc. With this current system it seems theres nothing stopping a player winning a Jun A and senior championship in the one year which is a farce really. Thats not a dig at just Galway by the way but I'm curious as to what people think. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 3999 - 07/09/2022 09:30:38 2439896 Link 0 |
Tyrone played a League. Most counties I know of started club championships around the same time as us. Cork, Tipp, Dublin etc
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 8494 - 07/09/2022 12:01:55 2439919 Link 0 |
Would have to say that if you want to play a league competition that seems to take 17 rounds of fixtures (15 group games, semi-finals and final) before you start your championship, then you can't really complain if your championship doesn't start until nearly the end of September. If you want to play championship during the summer, what you could do is play some early rounds of the league, then switch to championship, and then play out the remainder of the league. But that would probably take a lot of the interest and relevance out of the league, if it's mainly treated as build-up & preparation for the championship that follows? By the way, just to point out that what I suggested as an alternative was two groups of eight in the league, followed by a championship involving four groups of four. So you'd have at least three championship games, not just one. If a minimum of ten games still wasn't deemed enough, another option would be to do two groups of eight for the league and play that to completion, then draw another two groups of eight for the championship. That would give each team a minimum of 14 games. But either way, point remains that these are issues related to how you choose to run your domestic competitions in Tyrone, rather than being related to the broader picture of the split season. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 1482 - 07/09/2022 13:00:07 2439922 Link 0 |
I think the split season isn't the best answer to the question of how we get a fairer deal for club players. It is certainly better than what was there before. brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 242 - 08/09/2022 15:29:04 2440049 Link 0 |
What media? Sure teams don't talk to the media any more. Why should the media bother any more, all they get is generic jargon from players, coaches and managers. A media night by Zoom ahead of an All-Ireland? In all fairness. As a player, I loved this year. It was hard going in the last few hurling games but overall it has been great. A match every week, a definite calendar. All the things which I had hated not having up until Covid. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1643 - 08/09/2022 18:21:49 2440069 Link 1 |
They were late starting the League in Tyrone some dispute over a promotion game last year FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2655 - 09/09/2022 09:10:16 2440095 Link 0 |
they walk amoung us folks!!!!!!!!
Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2612 - 09/09/2022 09:59:01 2440101 Link 0 |
Their structures haven't done Football any harm this Millenium. 4 AI titles.....
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 8494 - 09/09/2022 10:52:57 2440105 Link 0 |
No championship grading at all. 3 different divisions so 3 different championships. Championship can be started anytime while league is in progress.
Neartheborder (Derry) - Posts: 44 - 09/09/2022 11:04:45 2440108 Link 0 |