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I know this topic has been done to death but with the increased likelihood of League of Ireland clubs performing well in Europe over the coming years, should the GAA look to work with the league of Ireland to allow their stadiums to be used?
Fair enough there are health and safety requirements for European games but there are means for stadiums to have terraces turned into seated stands in very little time. This happens in the Bundesliga all the time.
In the case of Sligo Rovers it would be great to see them not have to trek to Dublin to play their game against Viking. If Rovers and Sligo GAA could work together to open up Markievicz to meet European standards, there could be a great pay day for all involved and it would be great to see the occasion stay in Sligo.
This is a model that could and should be replicated in other parts of the country in future as it would provide a great boost to local economies. increased frequency aside, they would be infrequent enough to not prevent any significant danger to GAA scheduling. Would be interested to hear some thoughts
meathfan1 (Meath) - Posts: 229 - 29/07/2022 14:46:19
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I'd have no objection in principle to Central Council having the discretion to allow GAA grounds be used for other sports in certain circumstances, same as applied in the case of Croke Park during the Lansdowne Road/Aviva Stadium construction.
Not sure though how feasible or cost-efficient it would actually be to install temporary seating where required, such as in the case of Sligo. I believe Markievicz Park has approx. 3,500 seats and according to another piece I read today, UEFA requirements Sligo's next match in that competition are a minimum of 4,500 seats.
I know it used to be done on the terraces for soccer matches in "the old" Lansdowne Road, but at least there, it was being done fairly regularly, so whatever initial cost was involved in installing brackets etc. for seating would have worked out over time. Something like Sligo Rovers in Markievicz Park wouldn't be anywhere near as regular, and so it could be a big outlay for a once-off event.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2247 - 29/07/2022 16:11:04
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Replying To meathfan1: "I know this topic has been done to death but with the increased likelihood of League of Ireland clubs performing well in Europe over the coming years, should the GAA look to work with the league of Ireland to allow their stadiums to be used?
Fair enough there are health and safety requirements for European games but there are means for stadiums to have terraces turned into seated stands in very little time. This happens in the Bundesliga all the time.
In the case of Sligo Rovers it would be great to see them not have to trek to Dublin to play their game against Viking. If Rovers and Sligo GAA could work together to open up Markievicz to meet European standards, there could be a great pay day for all involved and it would be great to see the occasion stay in Sligo.
This is a model that could and should be replicated in other parts of the country in future as it would provide a great boost to local economies. increased frequency aside, they would be infrequent enough to not prevent any significant danger to GAA scheduling. Would be interested to hear some thoughts" Only about 1,000 seats in MarkyPark.
Anyway that game is going ahead in the Showgrounds.
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1417 - 29/07/2022 16:16:25
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Replying To meathfan1: "I know this topic has been done to death but with the increased likelihood of League of Ireland clubs performing well in Europe over the coming years, should the GAA look to work with the league of Ireland to allow their stadiums to be used?
Fair enough there are health and safety requirements for European games but there are means for stadiums to have terraces turned into seated stands in very little time. This happens in the Bundesliga all the time.
In the case of Sligo Rovers it would be great to see them not have to trek to Dublin to play their game against Viking. If Rovers and Sligo GAA could work together to open up Markievicz to meet European standards, there could be a great pay day for all involved and it would be great to see the occasion stay in Sligo.
This is a model that could and should be replicated in other parts of the country in future as it would provide a great boost to local economies. increased frequency aside, they would be infrequent enough to not prevent any significant danger to GAA scheduling. Would be interested to hear some thoughts" That would be an excellent idea but I can't see the GAA giving it the go ahead…. still lots of them with their heads buried in the sand
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1926 - 29/07/2022 16:21:55
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Replying To meathfan1: "I know this topic has been done to death but with the increased likelihood of League of Ireland clubs performing well in Europe over the coming years, should the GAA look to work with the league of Ireland to allow their stadiums to be used?
Fair enough there are health and safety requirements for European games but there are means for stadiums to have terraces turned into seated stands in very little time. This happens in the Bundesliga all the time.
In the case of Sligo Rovers it would be great to see them not have to trek to Dublin to play their game against Viking. If Rovers and Sligo GAA could work together to open up Markievicz to meet European standards, there could be a great pay day for all involved and it would be great to see the occasion stay in Sligo.
This is a model that could and should be replicated in other parts of the country in future as it would provide a great boost to local economies. increased frequency aside, they would be infrequent enough to not prevent any significant danger to GAA scheduling. Would be interested to hear some thoughts" That would be an excellent idea but I can't see the GAA giving it the go ahead…. still lots of them with their heads buried in the sand
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1926 - 29/07/2022 16:22:45
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Replying To meathfan1: "I know this topic has been done to death but with the increased likelihood of League of Ireland clubs performing well in Europe over the coming years, should the GAA look to work with the league of Ireland to allow their stadiums to be used?
Fair enough there are health and safety requirements for European games but there are means for stadiums to have terraces turned into seated stands in very little time. This happens in the Bundesliga all the time.
In the case of Sligo Rovers it would be great to see them not have to trek to Dublin to play their game against Viking. If Rovers and Sligo GAA could work together to open up Markievicz to meet European standards, there could be a great pay day for all involved and it would be great to see the occasion stay in Sligo.
This is a model that could and should be replicated in other parts of the country in future as it would provide a great boost to local economies. increased frequency aside, they would be infrequent enough to not prevent any significant danger to GAA scheduling. Would be interested to hear some thoughts" I think the FAI need to get their act together with the League of Ireland first before they get to use intercounty grounds. Otherwise it's just another excuse they'll have to further neglect the league because there'll be less incentive to develop or upgrade League of Ireland grounds. It's a good idea though if county boards get more revenue in for soccer games but only when stadiums are not needed for GAA activities. I think Markievicz Park would take a lot of work to come up to UEFA standards though.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 29/07/2022 17:41:26
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Replying To meathfan1: "I know this topic has been done to death but with the increased likelihood of League of Ireland clubs performing well in Europe over the coming years, should the GAA look to work with the league of Ireland to allow their stadiums to be used?
Fair enough there are health and safety requirements for European games but there are means for stadiums to have terraces turned into seated stands in very little time. This happens in the Bundesliga all the time.
In the case of Sligo Rovers it would be great to see them not have to trek to Dublin to play their game against Viking. If Rovers and Sligo GAA could work together to open up Markievicz to meet European standards, there could be a great pay day for all involved and it would be great to see the occasion stay in Sligo.
This is a model that could and should be replicated in other parts of the country in future as it would provide a great boost to local economies. increased frequency aside, they would be infrequent enough to not prevent any significant danger to GAA scheduling. Would be interested to hear some thoughts" The Showgrounds is closer to meeting UEFA standards than Markievicz Park is ever likely to be. For one thing it has floodlights.
Surely it'd be smarter for Sligo Rovers to just upgrade their own grounds rather than pay for improvements to someone elses?
CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 29/07/2022 17:51:12
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Would Markievicz meet UEFA standards? It would have to be all seater I'm assuming?
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 29/07/2022 18:22:14
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Replying To meathfan1: "I know this topic has been done to death but with the increased likelihood of League of Ireland clubs performing well in Europe over the coming years, should the GAA look to work with the league of Ireland to allow their stadiums to be used?
Fair enough there are health and safety requirements for European games but there are means for stadiums to have terraces turned into seated stands in very little time. This happens in the Bundesliga all the time.
In the case of Sligo Rovers it would be great to see them not have to trek to Dublin to play their game against Viking. If Rovers and Sligo GAA could work together to open up Markievicz to meet European standards, there could be a great pay day for all involved and it would be great to see the occasion stay in Sligo.
This is a model that could and should be replicated in other parts of the country in future as it would provide a great boost to local economies. increased frequency aside, they would be infrequent enough to not prevent any significant danger to GAA scheduling. Would be interested to hear some thoughts" Simple answer, NO. Paddle and canoe spring to mind.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2013 - 29/07/2022 20:35:53
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Considering the size of Sligo, its a great shame there has never been the foresight (in either the FAI, County Council or GAA) to focus what little money they have on building 1 high quality stadium for 15,000 people
Instead, they have two substandard grounds that can't hold a European match, Connacht final, or even a Mayo/Galway v Donegal/ Tyrone qualifier
tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1109 - 30/07/2022 08:24:08
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Replying To meathfan1: "I know this topic has been done to death but with the increased likelihood of League of Ireland clubs performing well in Europe over the coming years, should the GAA look to work with the league of Ireland to allow their stadiums to be used?
Fair enough there are health and safety requirements for European games but there are means for stadiums to have terraces turned into seated stands in very little time. This happens in the Bundesliga all the time.
In the case of Sligo Rovers it would be great to see them not have to trek to Dublin to play their game against Viking. If Rovers and Sligo GAA could work together to open up Markievicz to meet European standards, there could be a great pay day for all involved and it would be great to see the occasion stay in Sligo.
This is a model that could and should be replicated in other parts of the country in future as it would provide a great boost to local economies. increased frequency aside, they would be infrequent enough to not prevent any significant danger to GAA scheduling. Would be interested to hear some thoughts" A few points.
1. Safe standing terraces/seats in the Bundesliga are specifically designed. When it's a terrace the seats are still there. The seats are just locked in an upright position. For European games the seats just have to be unlocked.
2. The Showgrounds is in much better nick then Markievicz Pk and much closer to UEFA standard. GAA stadia are larger than LoI stadia but not necessarily in better condition from my experience.
3. Your general point is sound though. There is definitely room for LoI clubs and certain county boards to partner together. Louth and Drogheda Utd comes to mind. Two grounds right beside each other, neither good, particularly the GAA one. It seems a no brainer to me.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 30/07/2022 08:33:28
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I actually think the practicalities of converting a GAA pitch to a soccer pitch are the biggest issue.
The dimensions of a GAA pitch are much greater, so you end up with a lot of empty space, particularly behind each goal.
The supporters are even further away from the action. I remember the Irish soccer games in Croke Park. They looked terrible aesthetically.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2040 - 30/07/2022 09:16:10
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Replying To yew_tree: "Would Markievicz meet UEFA standards? It would have to be all seater I'm assuming?" Depends on what standards you are looking at.
These are on wiki but accurate enough. these are standards for each category UEFA have for stadiums
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KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 30/07/2022 10:29:20
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Replying To yew_tree: "Would Markievicz meet UEFA standards? It would have to be all seater I'm assuming?" They'd need to get the scoreboard working for every game too. Makes for an interesting second half when it isn't though!
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 30/07/2022 13:43:47
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Replying To ForeverBlue2: "That would be an excellent idea but I can't see the GAA giving it the go ahead…. still lots of them with their heads buried in the sand" Think this is a very unfair comment. As far back as 2005, Congress voted by more than two to one to allow Croke Park be used for other sports while Lansdowne Road was being redeveloped.
Since then, GAA was also a key player in Ireland's bid for the 2023 Rugby World Cup. Eight of the 12 grounds that were part of the bid were GAA grounds. There was overwhelming support for this too.
They found a way around their own rules for the Liam Miller charity soccer match in Cork a few years ago too, when it was decided it was the right thing to do.
Hardly the actions of an organisation with heads buried in the sand.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2247 - 30/07/2022 14:01:08
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Well any thing is possible as long as a sports game does not interfere with a concert schedule. If a sport event does we know what will get kicked to touch (forgive the the pun ).
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 01/08/2022 19:00:45
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Ireland and the UK have submitted their final bid to host Euro 2028.
The Aviva Stadium is on the list of venues to host matches, but Croke Park has missed out.
The FAI says its delighted to make the proposal to UEFA, alongside the football associations of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
Here in Dublin, the Aviva Stadium's been chosen to host games, with it's capacity of 51,000.
Casement Park in Belfast will also play host - as well as grounds like Wembley, the National Stadium of Wales in Cardiff and Hampden Park in Glasgow.
However, Croke Park isn't on the list, despite the GAA having approved its HQ for use as part of Euro 2028.
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 12/04/2023 13:05:29
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Replying To KillingFields: "Ireland and the UK have submitted their final bid to host Euro 2028.
The Aviva Stadium is on the list of venues to host matches, but Croke Park has missed out.
The FAI says its delighted to make the proposal to UEFA, alongside the football associations of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
Here in Dublin, the Aviva Stadium's been chosen to host games, with it's capacity of 51,000.
Casement Park in Belfast will also play host - as well as grounds like Wembley, the National Stadium of Wales in Cardiff and Hampden Park in Glasgow.
However, Croke Park isn't on the list, despite the GAA having approved its HQ for use as part of Euro 2028." Great news , except for Casement.
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You have to admire the chutzpah of the FAI snubbing one of their benefactors!
Tell them take a hike altogether would be my plan. Should have nothing to do with this gang. Let them play the thing in their own places. Beggars on horseback.
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2556 - 12/04/2023 17:49:24
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Replying To Saynothing: "Great news , except for Casement." Casement Park will now get it's redevelopment completed (mostly paid for by the British tax payers). And once the Euro 2028 circus leaves town, the GAA and Ulster have a nice new shiny stadium.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2460 - 13/04/2023 08:26:35
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