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Its Time The GAA Took On The USA Money Bags Before Football Turns Professional

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There are clubs closer to home offering bags of money for players to join them. Worse than any player going to the states for a few months. sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1181 - 19/08/2022 11:37:39 2437996 Link
Replying To sourmilk93: "There are clubs closer to home offering bags of money for players to join them. Worse than any player going to the states for a few months." Job, free accommodation, travel paid and lump sum of €20k????? Tell me where and I'm on me way... Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1803 - 19/08/2022 11:53:14 2438002 Link
If a lad in his 20's can get a trip to the states, working and a few bob on top to play football, the best of luck to him totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 983 - 19/08/2022 12:38:48 2438010 Link
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "Job, free accommodation, travel paid and lump sum of €20k????? Tell me where and I'm on me way..." Read the papers. sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1181 - 19/08/2022 12:54:13 2438015 Link
Sourmilk Roscommon Tomsmith here If people /players/team builders (AKA moneybags) want to go paying for players let the Clubs that train them to this high standard get the money. People in Clubs are selling tickets for Draws trying to keep Country Clubs going in Rural areas of North of Ireland and Southern Ireland for cherry pickers to come in and via a local agent take your besy players away. I feel suspend the entire Gaa calender for 6 weeks let all go to America Let the Clubs at home make the Dollars tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3947 - 20/08/2022 08:56:43 2438082 Link
Replying To Square_B: "You don't? Wow..." Wow not DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 290 - 20/08/2022 11:39:35 2438094 Link
For an alternative view on the exodus of county players to the US... https://www.mayonews.ie/sports/38723-american-dream-can-be-club-nightmare Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 20/08/2022 13:30:35 2438111 Link
Replying To tomsmith: "Sourmilk Roscommon Tomsmith here If people /players/team builders (AKA moneybags) want to go paying for players let the Clubs that train them to this high standard get the money. People in Clubs are selling tickets for Draws trying to keep Country Clubs going in Rural areas of North of Ireland and Southern Ireland for cherry pickers to come in and via a local agent take your besy players away. I feel suspend the entire Gaa calender for 6 weeks let all go to America Let the Clubs at home make the Dollars" The problem to control this and if you want to control it is that our players are amateur and no-one has any hold over any player. The amateur bit only applies to the player because it is a way of controlling the money generators. Managers, Administrators , etc are paid. Start with the inter player and pay compensation for and if he wants to sign a contract. Then the agent has to legally approach the owner of the contractor who can say yes $25000 to the player and another $25000 to his club. The club player who is not an inter county is little more tricky . However how about the rule that you play for one team in a calendar year. That might seem like you are penalizing his club again and denying the player an opportunity but remember money as well as opportunity is the driver here. So to allow everyone get what they want an equal amount to allow a player play over seas and at home in one year payed by the buyer. Going to the club. $25000 seems to be brandished around like chump change. If a few things were put in place we would see how big their pockets are and if so everyone gets something out of it. If the club as it is now is losing out anyway they may as get paid for it to help the next kids on the horizon. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2845 - 20/08/2022 14:38:09 2438117 Link
Only allow temporary transfers between 1st October and 31st March. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1803 - 20/08/2022 14:48:16 2438121 Link
We always seem to be stuck in neutral. Whinging about this and that but doing nothing about it.Then someone else sees an opportunity and whips it from under our noses. That is what is going to happen with our sport down the road. There will be paid players and we can huff and puff all we like. Why not get out ahead of the curve and develop a system that will protect as many of the cherished aspects of our sport as is possible. You would have to ask what are the factors that allow the game in the U.S. pay for players. Don't offer the nonsense about population. There are sports that pay their juniors to participate and with a couple of score supporters present. It is down to a business plan that will happen one way or the other. The question is will the GAA be the owner ? Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2845 - 20/08/2022 15:19:29 2438125 Link
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "Only allow temporary transfers between 1st October and 31st March." Seanbanbot Tomsmith here from Cavan I feel your proposal has alot of merit. Let transfers from i st October to end of March over to the money Bags who have just a set of Jerseys . Always remember that some of these money Bags do take a team from Eire ( North and Southern Ireland ) to bolster a buisness Its reported that one money Bag has put a vast amount of money into taking a team from Ireland this year to assist him in attracting Irish American buisness. Then again maybe some of them players who went to America went to play the Gaa game free of Charge. I just wonder what is the current finders fee that money Bags are paying. In precovid times it was as high as E500 for aCounty man and 300/400 for a good club man Perhaps Croke park could look into the damage these money Bags are doing to the GAA, at a time that labourers are getting almost 200 E perday and cannot be got tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3947 - 20/08/2022 16:51:35 2438137 Link
This has been going on long term already. It was happening when I got involved in admin in the USA back in 2005 and it does feck all to clubs and yanks here. Most homegrown players don't get past minor as they won't see the other side of the white line as some young lad is getting paid to come over. Now, I don't blame the young lad; I'd have done the same if I was any good. But, it's killing the GAA stateside, at least in the big cities. kilflynn (Kerry) - Posts: 66 - 24/08/2022 10:37:57 2438521 Link
Replying To kilflynn: "This has been going on long term already. It was happening when I got involved in admin in the USA back in 2005 and it does feck all to clubs and yanks here. Most homegrown players don't get past minor as they won't see the other side of the white line as some young lad is getting paid to come over. Now, I don't blame the young lad; I'd have done the same if I was any good. But, it's killing the GAA stateside, at least in the big cities." You are just telling it as it is but we are always in denial or spinning it because of a different agenda. The game at home is suffering also because the players who are carrying the team when the exiles are away find themselves back on the bench when they return. Some will say to heck with that, why should I bother.The rights or wrongs of it can be be a subjective discussion but the results of it at both ends will not be deniable at some stage. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2845 - 25/08/2022 16:47:29 2438700 Link
Kirflynn County Kerry and Carnuck Tomsmith here Both of you hit the nail on the head.. I understand that Finals were held last Sunday and the number of Clubs from Ireland that was represented on one team was horrific. I understand that Dublin Airport on Tuesday morning was like Croke Park on an All Ireland day with fellows arriving with playing gear. Hopefully these fellows will row in with the home club that trained them to this level and now train the youth in the home club ( I very much doubt it) as most County player or people that on County panels are lost to the home Club.. Oneof the above hit the nail on the head when it was mentined how the poor player in Ireland feels when he is left on the bench for this Sundays game. I suppose the money Bags in the USA has achieved his Goal, in attracting Ireland best players, hi s agent at Club level in the Irish club is happy he has his finders fee so all is happy other than No 16 onwards on the local Club team here. I feel its time to take a stand before the game deteriorates like another Sport where anyone that wishes to play at a higher lever has to emigrate. The voluntary/ amateur ethos of the GAA is at a very grave risk of being exploited by none other than MONEY BAGS tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3947 - 27/08/2022 12:01:51 2438804 Link
Replying To tomsmith: "Kirflynn County Kerry and Carnuck Tomsmith here Both of you hit the nail on the head.. I understand that Finals were held last Sunday and the number of Clubs from Ireland that was represented on one team was horrific. I understand that Dublin Airport on Tuesday morning was like Croke Park on an All Ireland day with fellows arriving with playing gear. Hopefully these fellows will row in with the home club that trained them to this level and now train the youth in the home club ( I very much doubt it) as most County player or people that on County panels are lost to the home Club.. Oneof the above hit the nail on the head when it was mentined how the poor player in Ireland feels when he is left on the bench for this Sundays game. I suppose the money Bags in the USA has achieved his Goal, in attracting Ireland best players, hi s agent at Club level in the Irish club is happy he has his finders fee so all is happy other than No 16 onwards on the local Club team here. I feel its time to take a stand before the game deteriorates like another Sport where anyone that wishes to play at a higher lever has to emigrate. The voluntary/ amateur ethos of the GAA is at a very grave risk of being exploited by none other than MONEY BAGS" It's really a semi professional meaningless tournament with artificial teams made up of temporary players. Can't blame young lads for taking up offers of free overseas travel and a bucketful of US$ (now 1 for 1 with €) thrown in. Up to the top table to stop it e.g overseas transfers must be for no less than 6 months. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1803 - 27/08/2022 12:46:15 2438808 Link
Seanfanbot from Roscommon Tomsmith here from Cavan Sean I fully agree with you it is s professional tournament played out in front of ahandfull of spectators . I underatand that some teams that the players dident know one another other than seeing them play on theSUnday game . Its sad that Ga HG is letting the game in the uSA turn into a professional Sport to line the pockets of Money Bags who long to win favour among the Irish Community in which the operate in. It seems very little enery is being put into tackling these fellows ( Money Bags I just wonder why.. I just wonder will this commercial aspect eventually be the same as what has happened to another sport ( played with a much smaller Ball ) and the Gaa lands in a Bunker. I say ban all Gaa Clubs that buy in players tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3947 - 28/08/2022 12:47:45 2438889 Link
Replying To tomsmith: "Seanfanbot from Roscommon Tomsmith here from Cavan Sean I fully agree with you it is s professional tournament played out in front of ahandfull of spectators . I underatand that some teams that the players dident know one another other than seeing them play on theSUnday game . Its sad that Ga HG is letting the game in the uSA turn into a professional Sport to line the pockets of Money Bags who long to win favour among the Irish Community in which the operate in. It seems very little enery is being put into tackling these fellows ( Money Bags I just wonder why.. I just wonder will this commercial aspect eventually be the same as what has happened to another sport ( played with a much smaller Ball ) and the Gaa lands in a Bunker. I say ban all Gaa Clubs that buy in players" Would that ban include the might cavan gales!! Thejampot (Leitrim) - Posts: 296 - 07/09/2022 09:15:58 2439893 Link
Replying To Thejampot: "Would that ban include the might cavan gales!!" Tomsmith here The Jam Pot of 23 Posts In my lifetime supporting Cavans greatest Club I have not known of any inducements, to be offerered to any player to join this great Club tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3947 - 18/09/2022 13:24:17 2441024 Link
Replying To tomsmith: "Tomsmith here The Jam Pot of 23 Posts In my lifetime supporting Cavans greatest Club I have not known of any inducements, to be offerered to any player to join this great Club" Lived in cavan town for a few years in the early 2000's and was a member of your great club for a while and seen it happen BUT they not the only club to do it. Some clubs best supporters dont like to know the truth. What dose the number of posts have to do with what some says? Just cause the number is low dont mean it not true. As you would of been at that number at some stage too!!. Mabe the truth hurts Thejampot (Leitrim) - Posts: 296 - 22/09/2022 15:15:44 2441558 Link

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