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Replying To Mayonman: "Not too much of a big deal players jumping or waving in front of a free taker. More concerned about where the kick is taken from. Loads of examples. Rian O'Neill may have stolen a yard or two v Galway but to be fair he didn't seem to nneed it. The biggest joke was the free in the same game where the Armagh guy had it in his hands and must have run 15 yards before he kicked it. I know to many copying soccer is a cardinal sin but the foam is simple and works extremely well. Sean O'Se..... wow. Apart from the accuracy he must have cleared the posts by another 20 metres." Good man, Croker posts are 13m high, so you say the ball was at a height of 33m at least when it crossed the bar, as I say "good man". sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 684 - 15/07/2022 09:15:41 2432144 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "Point for point O 'Shea's. Into the Hill against the wind( which the commentators mentioned every time Dublin missed)last kick to win match, had run for 80 minutes . Very few could do it . Towards end of match some keepers maybe but only because they're well rested." Wind was not against him, crossfield wind at hill end blowing from Cusack stand side, actually it brought ball back over the bar, good luck? but in fairness more likely good judgement. Great kick tho maybe a last minute kick to level a game is more pressure? sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 684 - 15/07/2022 09:24:09 2432145 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "Point for point O 'Shea's. Into the Hill against the wind( which the commentators mentioned every time Dublin missed)last kick to win match, had run for 80 minutes . Very few could do it . Towards end of match some keepers maybe but only because they're well rested." He really went for it too - full power and commitment. Always best. To score is great, to put it wide is bad, obviously, but at least you tried - the absolute worst however is to drop it into the goalie's hands ... O'Neill for Armagh was slightly more pressure in that he had to score to win. Of course, O'Shea knew Dublin were on a fight back, and injury time could have been a lottery, so while they were still in the game if he missed it, it still was a great test of nerve. The skill is one aspect, but you can practice technique. However, to be able to block out the context and hit it as if you were out by yourself on a training pitch always fills me with admiration. Similar for penalties. I've no idea how players can execute their techniques well under such pressure, tbh. I'd rather get punched by Mike Tyson than have to take a pressure free or penalty like those. When you win as a result of a free like that, it's something that a player will remember forever. points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 241 - 15/07/2022 09:47:03 2432148 Link
Replying To sligo joe: "Good man, Croker posts are 13m high, so you say the ball was at a height of 33m at least when it crossed the bar, as I say "good man"." You are réadú g it wrong. He is talking about distance. Seanie Ó Sheas free was a long way out and he did clear the posts by a long way. In other words even if he was further out it would have been a score also. CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 15/07/2022 12:49:12 2432195 Link
There was some debate on here away back about taking a last minute free to win a match or to draw a match, I think it's obvious there is more pressure when you are trying to draw the match, It's a pity Con wasn't fit to play the last day, I think if he was Dublin might have shaded it but we'll never know, Dublin may be in div 2 next year but they haven't gone away you know. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2752 - 15/07/2022 13:23:25 2432212 Link
Replying To CiarraiMick: "You are réadú g it wrong. He is talking about distance. Seanie Ó Sheas free was a long way out and he did clear the posts by a long way. In other words even if he was further out it would have been a score also." Fair enough, read him wrong. Watching from the hill the ball was swinging right to left big time when it crossed the bar, heading for where the Nally Stand used to be, any less power and it would have gone across the face of the goal. sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 684 - 15/07/2022 13:48:10 2432220 Link
Replying To sligo joe: "Fair enough, read him wrong. Watching from the hill the ball was swinging right to left big time when it crossed the bar, heading for where the Nally Stand used to be, any less power and it would have gone across the face of the goal." Yes he judged the kick a perfectly to swing at the right moment. That's what all good free takers do. CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 15/07/2022 16:56:36 2432263 Link
What about the incessant booing of freetakers? Across all codes, all counties. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 15/07/2022 17:11:09 2432268 Link
Replying To sligo joe: "Good man, Croker posts are 13m high, so you say the ball was at a height of 33m at least when it crossed the bar, as I say "good man"." So, is it time to make the football heavier........??? ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1132 - 15/07/2022 18:17:12 2432280 Link
Replying To ExiledInWex: "Mother of god, are you trying to sanitise the game altogether? The game on Sunday was played in good spirit - hard, fair, honest. It was a pleasure to be there and witness it. Should the crowd stay mute also like rugby, with their annoying "shhhhh......" because Sexton is lining up a kick in a Pro 12 game that hardly anyone cares about? I don't see why anybody would have a problem with a player waving hands, shaking goal posts, etc. I draw the line at anybody throwing anything at the free taker though and do not like that behaviour. The level of sportsmanship at the end was top notch also. Hand shakes all round and massive respect between both teams. Some other counties could take note of the behaviour." The behaviour by that Dublin keeper was despicable one more than one occasion...take off the rose tinted specs my friend showmehow (Kerry) - Posts: 6 - 15/07/2022 21:46:49 2432292 Link
Replying To CiarraiMick: "Yes he judged the kick a perfectly to swing at the right moment. That's what all good free takers do." True CiarraiMick, perfect judgement, my point is that although the ball was still quite high as it crossed the bar because of the angle S. O'S sent it in,(and he judged that angle perfectly) it was pretty close to it's limit, certainly if the goal was 10m further back, it would not have made it. sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 684 - 16/07/2022 12:42:22 2432325 Link
Replying To Tirchonaill1: "There was some debate on here away back about taking a last minute free to win a match or to draw a match, I think it's obvious there is more pressure when you are trying to draw the match, It's a pity Con wasn't fit to play the last day, I think if he was Dublin might have shaded it but we'll never know, Dublin may be in div 2 next year but they haven't gone away you know." Yes Tírchonaill I agree. I used take frees myself as a young fella and it was all off the ground. I would have loved the opportunity of taking a free to win game. Its a free shot. If you miss your team still in it and if you score you ré a hero. However I'm glad I never was in a position to have a last min free to equalise. That's real pressure! I did take a penalty onc me in an underage final down 2 points and ref told me it's the last kick. Anyway Goalie saved it lol. CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 16/07/2022 19:01:28 2432388 Link
Replying To CiarraiMick: "Yes Tírchonaill I agree. I used take frees myself as a young fella and it was all off the ground. I would have loved the opportunity of taking a free to win game. Its a free shot. If you miss your team still in it and if you score you ré a hero. However I'm glad I never was in a position to have a last min free to equalise. That's real pressure! I did take a penalty onc me in an underage final down 2 points and ref told me it's the last kick. Anyway Goalie saved it lol." That was a painful one but it's good to learn young how to accept victory and defeat and we had plenty of both in our day, it was a hell of a score from young O'Shea, It's going to be a great final you'd have to favour Kerry but Galway will push ye all the way I think. Pity the intercounty season will be over so early, just doesn't seem right to me. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2752 - 16/07/2022 19:27:44 2432394 Link
Replying To Tirchonaill1: "That was a painful one but it's good to learn young how to accept victory and defeat and we had plenty of both in our day, it was a hell of a score from young O'Shea, It's going to be a great final you'd have to favour Kerry but Galway will push ye all the way I think. Pity the intercounty season will be over so early, just doesn't seem right to me." Agree on both counts. Galway have some class players like Comer Walsh and Conroy. Also yes it's a shame the season over so early. It seemed like a complete rush job. It's just not the same P. G. It will revert back to at least august next year. CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 16/07/2022 20:04:54 2432399 Link
Replying To CiarraiMick: "Agree on both counts. Galway have some class players like Comer Walsh and Conroy. Also yes it's a shame the season over so early. It seemed like a complete rush job. It's just not the same P. G. It will revert back to at least august next year." Have to agree with yourself and Tirchonaill1, football nearly over and f all to look forward to. Couple of weeks ago there were up to 10 matches on any given weekend, now nothing. Something has to change, at least as you say , late August. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2014 - 16/07/2022 21:19:31 2432408 Link
Replying To Tirchonaill1: "Worst one I remember is Lee Keegan throwing his GPS at Dean Rock as he attempted and succeeded in kicking the winning free in an All Ireland final, as low an act as any you'll see in any game imo. I agree it's time they brought in the shaving foam idea from soccer, the number of times frees are walked in by free takers is a complete joke." I really seem to be in a position of one but do you really think Lee Keegans GPS thing is as low an act as you'll see? I just completely disagree. Is it worse than diving or feigning injury? Going back a while here but what about Phillip Jordan faking an injury to get Diarmuid Marsden sent off in the 03 final? Surely that was worse. Or sledging? Talking about players personal lives (sometimes even bereavements ffs) during a game. I think that's literally 100 times worse than what keegan did. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1712 - 17/07/2022 08:38:10 2432424 Link
Replying To showmehow: "The behaviour by that Dublin keeper was despicable one more than one occasion...take off the rose tinted specs my friend" I don't think trying to put off a free taker counts as "despicable" now, does it. Things which are despicable are sledging, gouging, and so on. I don't have rose tinted glasses either btw, I don't care very much about the Dublin footballers as I am first and foremost a hurling man. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1132 - 17/07/2022 12:47:41 2432456 Link
Replying To ExiledInWex: "I don't think trying to put off a free taker counts as "despicable" now, does it. Things which are despicable are sledging, gouging, and so on. I don't have rose tinted glasses either btw, I don't care very much about the Dublin footballers as I am first and foremost a hurling man." In fairness, he does say "on a number of occasions" so he's not just referring to that one incident. But I do actually agree with you. Words lose their meaning when we rush to use words like "despicable" to describe every incident of cynical play. Let's be clear, Comerford was deeply cynical with his feigned injury eating up 2 minutes of the black card, and his goal shaking was very poor sportsmanship (not to mention against the rules) and hardly the standard set by the legend he's been chosen to succeed. But despicable? No. Fully worthy of derision though! festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 17/07/2022 13:55:01 2432468 Link
Replying To showmehow: "The behaviour by that Dublin keeper was despicable one more than one occasion...take off the rose tinted specs my friend" Surely can we not just cherish the amateur players we have on all our teams. These players are human with all the flaws that that entails. If we let our tribal team affiliations get the better of us and label opposing players actions as despicable or players as thugs or scum etc it's just a race to the bottom. Funny I never see posters calling out their own players actions as despicable etc sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 684 - 17/07/2022 14:43:42 2432481 Link
Replying To festinog: "In fairness, he does say "on a number of occasions" so he's not just referring to that one incident. But I do actually agree with you. Words lose their meaning when we rush to use words like "despicable" to describe every incident of cynical play. Let's be clear, Comerford was deeply cynical with his feigned injury eating up 2 minutes of the black card, and his goal shaking was very poor sportsmanship (not to mention against the rules) and hardly the standard set by the legend he's been chosen to succeed. But despicable? No. Fully worthy of derision though!" Dead right. Feigning injury and diving for frees are a blight on our game. But as you say, feigning injury does not deserve to be described as despicable. Is it against the rule to shake the posts? ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1132 - 17/07/2022 19:00:19 2432542 Link