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Galway Can Beat Kerry In The Final.

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I have written off Galway in their last two games and i have had to eat humble pie. They are deserving of being in the final and I hope they go on to win it now.

LslashersFanatic (Longford) - Posts: 22 - 11/07/2022 11:08:45    2431301

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Replying To Leftpeg1:  "They absolutely can do it. Can't believe Galway are being written off by so many already. They have shown resiliance this year and have a steeliness about them. Should be a cracker. Honestly can't predict the winner."
I honestly can …. Kerry

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1951 - 11/07/2022 11:10:18    2431303

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Galway 3/1 is lunacy. I'll be lumping on.

SimonstownBack (Meath) - Posts: 143 - 11/07/2022 11:34:51    2431315

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "I honestly can …. Kerry"
On what basis are you so confident on a handy win for Kerry?

Leftpeg1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 89 - 11/07/2022 11:43:21    2431323

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "I honestly can …. Kerry"
I can predict a winner in the Tailteann Cup... Westmeath

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 843 - 11/07/2022 11:46:03    2431326

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Personally I thought Dublin were poor for long periods yesterday. No man running off the shoulder and very little direct running...Kerry were set up well but Dublin didnt seem to have willing shooters. I think Galway have that. This is definitely not as clear cut as Galway at 3/1 would suggest. There has been talk of Galway being contenders for a few years now but the clearout seems to have worked wonders and now they are actually real contenders.
I dont think it says that much about Kerry that they struggled past a Dublin team that the likes of an aging Mick Fitz, James McCarthy, Johnny Cooper and Dean Rock are still seen as such vital cogs. There was no cavalry to come on yesterday and stil that game probably should have went to ET. I didnt see a replay of the final free decision but I thought it was a very soft one.
An intriguing game yesterday but Kerry didnt look like world beaters to me.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 11/07/2022 12:34:16    2431349

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Absolutely loving how much Galway are being written off already!

MaroonedinDublin (Galway) - Posts: 28 - 11/07/2022 12:47:34    2431355

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Personally I thought Dublin were poor for long periods yesterday. No man running off the shoulder and very little direct running...Kerry were set up well but Dublin didnt seem to have willing shooters. I think Galway have that. This is definitely not as clear cut as Galway at 3/1 would suggest. There has been talk of Galway being contenders for a few years now but the clearout seems to have worked wonders and now they are actually real contenders.
I dont think it says that much about Kerry that they struggled past a Dublin team that the likes of an aging Mick Fitz, James McCarthy, Johnny Cooper and Dean Rock are still seen as such vital cogs. There was no cavalry to come on yesterday and stil that game probably should have went to ET. I didnt see a replay of the final free decision but I thought it was a very soft one.
An intriguing game yesterday but Kerry didnt look like world beaters to me."
Agree with that post. Kerry were ordinary yesterday but thats usually what o connor wants his teams to be. Disciplined, organised, hard beaten etc. They won't usually shoot the lights out as thats not his style. He emphasises defence.

Look at his other stints in charge. With exception of a few games they never were overly ambitious. Meath semi final in 2009 was a dour game as was the final that year. Struggled past antrim and longford also. 2006 I think drew 1 10 a piece with limerick. He likes his teams to be workmanlike as opposed to all flair and no substance.

howdareu (USA) - Posts: 220 - 11/07/2022 13:02:17    2431363

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I don't see any reason why Galway can't win the final. Kerry had a great first half yesterday but nearly threw it away. Dublin are way off the pace compared to a few years ago and there isn't a stand out team anymore. I'd say its a 50/50 match and if Galway can stop the supply to Clifford and O'Shea then they have a great chance. Galway play with a sweeper anyhow so the supply line to the Kerry full forward line will be limited. Dublin didn't seem to have a sweeper and to make matters worse they put no pressure on the kicker so they were able to find Clifford and O'Shea easily. You can't allow those lads to have the ball, nearly a guaranteed score when they get the ball in their hands.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1876 - 11/07/2022 13:14:04    2431365

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Of course Galway can win it. I hope not but if they do fair play to them. Galway have an excellent fb and some class players like Conroy Comer and Walsh.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 11/07/2022 13:25:00    2431369

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It will suit Galway to be underdogs and written off. They will come in to the game with a bit of bite. I think Kerry are such a powerful attacking unit that's it's hard to see anything other than them winning. Having said that Tyrone were underdogs every time they played and they have 4 All Irelands in recent times. Kerry are indeed beatable.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 11/07/2022 13:28:40    2431373

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Replying To SimonstownBack:  "Galway 3/1 is lunacy. I'll be lumping on."
who would you be lumping it on kerry ?

breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 457 - 11/07/2022 13:30:02    2431374

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Personally I thought Dublin were poor for long periods yesterday. No man running off the shoulder and very little direct running...Kerry were set up well but Dublin didnt seem to have willing shooters. I think Galway have that. This is definitely not as clear cut as Galway at 3/1 would suggest. There has been talk of Galway being contenders for a few years now but the clearout seems to have worked wonders and now they are actually real contenders.
I dont think it says that much about Kerry that they struggled past a Dublin team that the likes of an aging Mick Fitz, James McCarthy, Johnny Cooper and Dean Rock are still seen as such vital cogs. There was no cavalry to come on yesterday and stil that game probably should have went to ET. I didnt see a replay of the final free decision but I thought it was a very soft one.
An intriguing game yesterday but Kerry didnt look like world beaters to me."
There were 10 minutes in the game yesterday where Dublin played like the team of old and brought it back to a point. Kerry were ahead by 6 at halftime which could just as easily have been 9 or more considering the goalie's mystery injury that successfully ran down the black card time clock. Dublin never led, and if memory serves never drew level. At one point but for the goading of the fans, they'd have sat all 15 men in their own half and not even tried to get the ball from Kerry despite being behind.
Honestly, I thought they were very average and but for those 10 minutes it wasn't even a competition. I thought Kerry were worthy winners and played great football. They'll go into the final as favorites and rightly so. But I'd be very disappointed if Galway played as poorly as Dublin did at times yesterday. We need to watch out for our tendency to start slow. I expect Kerry to come looking for goals early, and if we can withstand that and the game is close at halftime, anything is possible.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 11/07/2022 13:44:32    2431382

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Replying To an_cearrbhach:  "And then just stop all the rest afterwards, simple! You'd wonder why nobody else has figured that out..."
What?

Tyrone had Conor Meyler do it last year?

sam2008 (Tyrone) - Posts: 797 - 11/07/2022 13:59:44    2431387

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Why do some people think that in a two horse race that sometimes one has "nothing to lose". I've went into finals as underdogs and never once felt that

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 11/07/2022 14:07:23    2431392

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Replying To anotheralias:  "I can predict a winner in the Tailteann Cup... Westmeath"
Easy to predict it 2 days later….. I doubt you made money on it though

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1951 - 11/07/2022 14:07:38    2431393

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Replying To Leftpeg1:  "On what basis are you so confident on a handy win for Kerry?"
Did I say it would be a handy win…. I just predicted Kerry to win…. simple to understand

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1951 - 11/07/2022 14:09:15    2431396

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Replying To SimonstownBack:  "Galway 3/1 is lunacy. I'll be lumping on."
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It's your money but 10/3 with PP at the moment is a better bet!
& there will be 7/2 on offer somewhere - or more perhaps before throw in.

timmyhogan (UK) - Posts: 290 - 11/07/2022 14:10:49    2431397

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Did I say it would be a handy win…. I just predicted Kerry to win…. simple to understand"
Lookit, I don't blame you for having trouble remembering some of the stuff you've written. I'd be quick to as well. But over on the other thread these are your exact words:
"All the worse for Galway in the final that Kerry were put to the pin of their collar to get over the line… A monkey off their backs and now they will be seriously focusing on the final where if they establish a lead like yesterday they will really put Galway to the sword… "
(https://www.hoganstand.com/Forum/Details/111713?County=National&PageNumber=10&TopicID=111713)

You've every right to predict Kerry will romp home, heck, you might even be right. All the other poster did was ask you to explain why you were of that opinion, which you clearly are.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 11/07/2022 14:20:29    2431406

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Replying To festinog:  "There were 10 minutes in the game yesterday where Dublin played like the team of old and brought it back to a point. Kerry were ahead by 6 at halftime which could just as easily have been 9 or more considering the goalie's mystery injury that successfully ran down the black card time clock. Dublin never led, and if memory serves never drew level. At one point but for the goading of the fans, they'd have sat all 15 men in their own half and not even tried to get the ball from Kerry despite being behind.
Honestly, I thought they were very average and but for those 10 minutes it wasn't even a competition. I thought Kerry were worthy winners and played great football. They'll go into the final as favorites and rightly so. But I'd be very disappointed if Galway played as poorly as Dublin did at times yesterday. We need to watch out for our tendency to start slow. I expect Kerry to come looking for goals early, and if we can withstand that and the game is close at halftime, anything is possible."
They did get back level at the end before the free...
Kerry could have been 9 points ahead but werent. Dublin missed a host of relatively easy chances. I agree Dublin had a great 10 mins but then went back into their shell. My point is that Dublin played poorly, yet it could have been easily them winning that free at the end if the kickout was won by them (ifs and buts I know but it was very tight at the end). Kerry were the better team, no question but yet struggled to win that game. I think they were overly defensive at times and I dont see the final being a classic.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 11/07/2022 14:25:30    2431412

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