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Should be a great game and good luck to both teams. Will be cheering for our Derry neighbours but wouldn't begrudge Galway a final!

ardmhacha (Armagh) - Posts: 172 - 02/07/2022 14:20:31    2429196

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Could ya see Derry playing some early high ball on top of the Galway goal or is that too obvious?

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 784 - 02/07/2022 14:41:44    2429207

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "Could ya see Derry playing some early high ball on top of the Galway goal or is that too obvious?"
Probably a bit obvious I guess and thinking Derry know that as well as us. Of course they could and probably will try this tactic at some point. I would be surprised if we have not tightened up in this area and feel if Derry are to win it will be in other lines of the field. They have big players in key central positions with Glass, Rogers, McKeigue and McGuigan serious operators. We have plenty of leaders as well and offensively we have more options than previous years.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 02/07/2022 14:55:59    2429208

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "Could ya see Derry playing some early high ball on top of the Galway goal or is that too obvious?"
It's pretty obvious but then again they'd be mad not to try it.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1711 - 02/07/2022 15:31:28    2429222

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Replying To ardmhacha:  "Should be a great game and good luck to both teams. Will be cheering for our Derry neighbours but wouldn't begrudge Galway a final!"
Yes I agree it should be a great tense game and I'm looking forward to it too!
I've always liked the Derry people and would support them in the Final if we didn't win.
Had good craic with the Derry fans before and after the '98 and '01 All Ireland Semi Finals...they are nice people.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2207 - 02/07/2022 15:40:57    2429226

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "Could ya see Derry playing some early high ball on top of the Galway goal or is that too obvious?"
God be with the days when men like theNoel tierney and the likes would field those high balls wirh ease
In some ways the old skills of the game have been lost due this Basketball/handball game we now play
where we rarely kick the ball anymore

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1478 - 02/07/2022 16:13:49    2429235

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Replying To rhudson:  "ITs hard to know one thing for sure Galway wont be afraid to try to attack
The Question mark about Derry is this What have they beaten
Donegal were shocking in Ulster final showed no ambition to go and win that game
They hand passed the ball back and over withouth ever trying to breach the Derry defence
Murphy and mc brearty seem to be on the wane legs are gone id say
Brendan Rodgers scored 3 points and set up another3 Murphy coundnt even keep up with him
He will be well kept busy next day if he has to deal with Comer a man in his peak years
Chrissy Mc Kaigue has been lauded for his man marking jobs so far
But how hard was that against Monaghan and Donegal who do their their best to not put ball into their forwards
Shane Walsh will give Chrissy plenty to do and keep him busy
Derry also beat Monaghan a really poor team now again play this back and over hand passing game
They then walloped Clare who really were a little naive and were easy prey
So i would say Derry havent met or beaten a team like Galway yet
Galway will present a diff challenge to what they have met allready"
Derry have beat bad teams so far, Tyrone were playing as bad as I've seen in years, Donegal were just as bad. A true reflection of where Galway are was when they were 6 points up v Armagh as they beat bad teams as well. Galway by at least 6.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2014 - 02/07/2022 16:23:58    2429236

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "Could ya see Derry playing some early high ball on top of the Galway goal or is that too obvious?"
Of the Derry games I've seen this year they have played little no high balls in not really Rory Gallaghers style to do so either with whatever team he's managed. Possession through the hands and using pace is normally their style.

In the league encounter Derry was destroyed on the kick out and the contest was all over long before half time. Main focus for Gallagher will be trying to make this match a more competitive match.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3347 - 02/07/2022 17:00:29    2429245

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I thought for sure Derry would beat whoever came out of Armagh-Galway but the manner of the win for Galway will do them wonders. Saynothing is right as well, they were well ahead of Armagh until those final minutes and the meltdown in defence. So it'll be interesting to see how this one goes.

I'd give Derry more credit than my Tyrone neighbour above, I think they won a very difficult Ulster facing a variety of styles and teams. They weathered the Monaghan storm 2nd half when it looked like momentum had totally shifted and ran out comfortable winners again, and then the Ulster final was a serious arm-wrestle.

Can't underestimate thre impact of someone like Glass in Croke Park as well. Everyone saying about Derry's style of play on the Croke Park turf but I think we'll see Glass go another level on that type of field.

I also think when people talk about the kickouts, Derry managed the Donegal press very very well in the Ulster final. We got some joy but they actually flooded a pile of their own men back to give Lynch as many options as possible. At the time Donegal were criticised for not doing more on the Derry kickout but if you watch it back, we tried to press but they just had so many men back for the options, the press didn't work. And if you're pressing up that hard on Derry and they get it away, they are lethal getting up the pitch so it's a huge risk then. There's no doubt their kickout is weak enough but they found a way to get around things in the Ulster final. I also think the game has moved a bit, kickouts are still a huge weapon but losing the kickout isn't the be all and end all it was a couple of years ago.

I actually think it is the Derry keepers general play they need to be more worried about. He has a serious mistake in him and I think it'll cost them at some point.

I'm excited for this one to be honest. Hopefully whoever comes out of this semi-final goes on to win it all. I'll be cheering for Derry but wouldn't begrudge Galway at all.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 02/07/2022 17:24:42    2429251

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Replying To rhudson:  "God be with the days when men like theNoel tierney and the likes would field those high balls wirh ease
In some ways the old skills of the game have been lost due this Basketball/handball game we now play
where we rarely kick the ball anymore"
Dylan McHugh wad exceptional last Sunday. His reading of the game, and in particular his exquisite handpass into Tierney - onto Heany for the palmed goal was so fast. Very Corofinish!!

Sean Kelly got turned quite easily at times. I now think Dylan could cover fullback duties much more efficiently. It's quite simple - if our last line of defence copes, I believe nothing can touch us..

AnCrúiscínLán (Galway) - Posts: 87 - 02/07/2022 18:41:45    2429270

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I'm hoping for a Galway win and I'd love to see Galway win the double, it's a long time since it's been done, should be 2 great contests next weekend,
anyone of the 4 remaining teams has a good chance of winning Sam, football is competitive again thank God.
Galway by 2. nervy finish, Comer man of the match.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2749 - 02/07/2022 19:02:41    2429276

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I honestly think Galway will definitely have to change the goalie otherwise cant see them winning it might sound harsh but has 2 be done even the last kick out in extra time he kicks it along the ground to Jack Glynn when he should have gone long he can't kick it short all except along the ground ,

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 844 - 02/07/2022 19:36:45    2429287

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Replying To rhudson:  "God be with the days when men like theNoel tierney and the likes would field those high balls wirh ease
In some ways the old skills of the game have been lost due this Basketball/handball game we now play
where we rarely kick the ball anymore"
There were plenty poor goals scored back in those days too from high balls in. A look back at older matches will show plenty clangers.
The 3 goals we conceded were very poor, but I'd be surprised if see a goal of that nature next Saturday.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2043 - 02/07/2022 20:01:04    2429304

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Replying To Kickitout:  "I honestly think Galway will definitely have to change the goalie otherwise cant see them winning it might sound harsh but has 2 be done even the last kick out in extra time he kicks it along the ground to Jack Glynn when he should have gone long he can't kick it short all except along the ground ,"
Rem what happened when Mayo changed their goalie!! Derry goalie is their weak point too, I think goalies would be as well just kick it long if they have a decent midfield to aim at, the short kickouts can cause havoc if they go wrong, ask me how I know.
I think Derry will def send some high dropping ball in on top of the Galway full back line after they seen what joy Armagh got from it late on the last day, it's an old school tactic but it works sometimes for sure.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2749 - 02/07/2022 20:11:27    2429308

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I think if management don't change the goalie they will definitely have questions to answer even for the penalties he went wrong way for them all up to the 72nd min the last day Galway only had conceded 13, points and then we all know what happened he just not good enough of a goalie ( nothing against him as a person at all )

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 844 - 02/07/2022 20:43:13    2429323

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Replying To Kickitout:  "I think if management don't change the goalie they will definitely have questions to answer even for the penalties he went wrong way for them all up to the 72nd min the last day Galway only had conceded 13, points and then we all know what happened he just not good enough of a goalie ( nothing against him as a person at all )"
I agree he isn't up to it - but then again they should know that by now he has been in the panel since 2020.
The only thing is - Flaherty wasn't on the bench the last day so must not be ready to play yet.
Even if he was passed fit in the meantime - he hasn't kicked a ball since the league final so it would be a risk to bring him straight back in now.
The sub keeper the last day has never played for Galway seniors before even in the league (I think). There is no way they will give him a debut in an All Ireland semi final. It just won't happen. That would be a bigger risk.

galwayman2 (Galway) - Posts: 1241 - 02/07/2022 20:52:31    2429329

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "There were plenty poor goals scored back in those days too from high balls in. A look back at older matches will show plenty clangers.
The 3 goals we conceded were very poor, but I'd be surprised if see a goal of that nature next Saturday."
The keeper was at fault but the defenders were equally poor for the goals.
The 3rd goal - how all of the defenders (and there were plenty back) allowed the ball to bounce is beyond me.
That ball needed to be attacked and none of them attacked it.
I imagine they will be working on defending high balls (among other things of course) before the Derry game.

galwayman2 (Galway) - Posts: 1241 - 02/07/2022 20:54:44    2429331

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The same thing happened v Offaly In league this year as well so definitely management have know by now he not good enough , I think flaherty back training lasts 3 weeks and also he was in goal in league match up in Derry , it's easier drop him now than have to take him off when the damage is done , Derry will target him big time no point Galway playing good football and scoring if they going conceded goals from high balls into square 4 high balls in last 15 mins 3 goals Derry coukd put in 10 snd prob end up with 5 game over ,,

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 844 - 02/07/2022 21:11:30    2429337

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Derry have beat bad teams so far, Tyrone were playing as bad as I've seen in years, Donegal were just as bad. A true reflection of where Galway are was when they were 6 points up v Armagh as they beat bad teams as well. Galway by at least 6."
I would be interested to know ,of the other 3 semifinalists, which good teams have they beaten?
Teams that are better than Tyrone, Monaghan, Donegal and Clare?

Derryman2 (Derry) - Posts: 12 - 03/07/2022 07:20:30    2429345

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Good article for McGuinness yesterday in the Times, I know we had an implosion in additional time (seeing out games is a skill in itself) but I think that was one of the finest Galway performances since we played Kerry in Croker in 08'

We do need to land a win against Kerry or Dublin to be considered a top tier team, I totally get that, but this team is going in the right direction and I think a team that has got the Galway football public right behind it which may not have been the case during the KW era.

Cannot wait for Sunday, it'll be 50/50 once again.

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1572 - 03/07/2022 10:23:37    2429360

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