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Replying To jm25: "You are correct south Galway 67.8% in 2019 said they would like independence within 20 years In 2008 they had earmarked 2021. So while they overwhelmingly don't want to join USA this doesn't mean they are happy in current scenario No i can depart again after having to put the ego back in their box" So many countries around the world have some form of Independence Day that they celebrate. Maybe some day Greenland will join their ranks "if" they truly want it. SouthGalway (Galway) - Posts: 181 - 22/01/2026 21:42:18 2652614 Link
Replying To Freethinker: "It's looking more and more as if the big prize in Greenland was their rare earths. I'll bet this "deal" will include mention of access to them. The bluff was all a hodge podge of lies tied up in half truths - all figments of one man's rather vivid imagination. Thank god there were some in there who were able to take heat out of the situation I'd imagine the shock to the bond markets played no small part either." I bet it won't include anything he doesn't already have the ability to do. There is no 'deal' just hot air. Trump has capulated. The Army Generals were never going to do anything unlawful, Trump would have had to seek Congress approval to 'invade' Greenland which he would never get. He tried to 'grift' the Europeans and failed. His next 'grift' is the Board of Peace project. Nothing but corporate funding for his son in law to 'rebuild' Gaza, under his control and no doubt on his terms / ownership. I don't know how these grifters sleep straight in bed at night. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1689 - 22/01/2026 23:05:29 2652627 Link
Replying To Tirchonaill1: "I see President Trump is setting up a Board of Peace now. how this man wasn't given the Noble Peace Prize I'll never know. He only wants Greenland to act as a deterrent to any aggressor. The USA has protected us all for decades they helped defeat Nazi Germany and don't forget the Red Army also battered the Germans into submission from the eastern side. Easy to forget now listening to the spiel from the likes of Macron etc, what was France's record in the war? I wouldn't like to be depending on the likes of them for defence anyway." You forgot your British buddies helping defeat the Nazi's. updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 940 - 22/01/2026 23:09:59 2652630 Link
Replying To REDANDBLACK30: "The Chinese government's understanding of private ownership is claimed to be rooted in classical Marxism. According to party theorists, since China adopted state ownership when it was a semi-feudal and semi-colonial country, it is claimed to be in the primary stage of socialism. China is officially a Socialist country. The statement above is the Chinese government's understanding of private ownership in the country that comes from Marxism. It system is called "socialism with Chinese characteristics"." The wealth gap in China is now similar to that of the USA. Socialism with Chinese Characteristics, just means that the wealth can be take of you for at any time. The saving grace about China is that domestic stability is the most important factor in keeping the regime in power and that means they are unlikely to get involved in overseas wars as they have seen the impact they have had on the US. zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2150 - 23/01/2026 06:53:45 2652637 Link
Replying To Viking66: "There were Jews living there for thousands of years before there were Muslims there." Not sure what that has to do with it. What are you trying to say? zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2150 - 23/01/2026 06:55:40 2652638 Link
Replying To REDANDBLACK30: "The point is now that dealing with the United States who are complicit in genocide and imperialism in an anathema to Irish history given the history of British misrule and the famine. Western countries apply the international rules based order to enemies but not allies like Israel you are correct." There are a lot of countries and companies with blood on their hands and the US had blood on its hands long before Gaza. Ireland has a place in the world way above its might, if we are shunted back 50 years, that will disappear. By cutting ties with the US we would lose everything and nothing would change, by maintaining ties and relationships there is the chance that we could have some small influence on the direction of policy or public opinion. People can chose their own path and decide not to buy or use products from countries they deem to be on the wrong side. Look at your own life and see where you could make a difference. zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2150 - 23/01/2026 07:13:37 2652639 Link
Replying To jm25: "In the same article they had another poll Around 56% want independence 28% want to remain with Denmark 17% are undecided. Did you not read full piece? Amazing You are comparing apples with pomegranate" That is not what the poster was talking about and you know that . Independence is a different argument and you know that also. My point is the vast , vast majority don't want U.S rule. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8730 - 23/01/2026 10:00:43 2652653 Link
Replying To zinny: "Not sure what that has to do with it. What are you trying to say?" Its a conflict that goes back a long time. Both sides have been victims of atrocities and conquest down the years. Numerous times. That's embedded in the current psyche of both. Sad, but true. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18107 - 23/01/2026 10:43:11 2652664 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "That is not what the poster was talking about and you know that . Independence is a different argument and you know that also. My point is the vast , vast majority don't want U.S rule." Replying To SouthGalway: "Of course I don't chat to Greenlanders, but I have read here or there that not all are happy at being ruled by distant Denmark. What percent? No idea hence hoping for a fair election where they decide and not others." Take the L.. You sound like Vance and Noemi trying to defend ice agents actions His post had nothing to do about USA it there in black and white. He posted some Greenlanders are unhappy under danish rule and having a vote for independence. Polls would indicate he is correct or do you speak to Greenlanders ?? How you took it to be about support for USA takeover ? well we know why. jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1896 - 23/01/2026 11:06:00 2652670 Link
No one is disputing Greenlanders don't want to be part of USA From what I can see the poster was referring to unhappiness with danish rule and looking for Independence Maybe let them confirm that and not speak for them jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1896 - 23/01/2026 11:18:12 2652675 Link
Replying To REDANDBLACK30: "Yes I would definitely be a Socialist because I think the greed and wealth disparities under capitalism are too vast . Socialism is very good system and can work well China is booming but I accept it failed in the USSR probably it was not implemented well there as it collapsed. The concept of socialism is just. Capitalism in China with a population of over one billion would be a bad fit given the wealth disparities it creates if the elite had all the money there could be widespread poverty." "The concept of socialism is just", I imagine the 20 million Uyghurs living in China would beg to differ. I don't suppose you can buy copies of "Animal Farm" in China. tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 455 - 23/01/2026 11:30:02 2652678 Link
Replying To jm25: "No one is disputing Greenlanders don't want to be part of USA From what I can see the poster was referring to unhappiness with danish rule and looking for Independence Maybe let them confirm that and not speak for them" Replying To WanPintWin: "That's already in place. Greenlanders have the right to vote for independence whenever they want. The reason they haven't done so is essentially because they're not ready yet. They're not self-sufficient from an economic point of view and they benefit from the very strong social supports available in Denmark. They will likely eventually vote for independence. They seem to be adamant however, that they don't want to become part of the US." You're probably right. I'd just like to see a fair vote on the topic. From what I hear many there are not happy with Denmark but I could be wrong hence my wish for a fair vote with all sides getting equal coverage. SouthGalway (Galway) - Posts: 181 - 21/01/2026 23:43:36 2652 He replied to the original poster who was specifically talking about them and the U.S. And i did the same. He also mentioned them not being self sufficient and not being able to support themselves yet. So they were not talking about being independent any time soon. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8730 - 23/01/2026 11:41:41 2652683 Link
Replying To tireoghainabu: ""The concept of socialism is just", I imagine the 20 million Uyghurs living in China would beg to differ. I don't suppose you can buy copies of "Animal Farm" in China." Have you read the communist manifesto? The concept is very much desirable for working class people to own the factors of production collectively for the benefit of society as a whole. Take from each according to his means, give to each according to his need. Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway, all heavily influenced by socialist values. FDR new deal in the US. Welfare states all across post war Europe. This is all good stuff. Unfortunately the iterations we've seen in USSR and China etc. are authoritarian and oppressive which is completely at odds with the concept. It has never really worked, and I don't think our species are capable of making it work. Ultimately the majority of us want to boast about having a newer car than the lads across the road....... Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4165 - 23/01/2026 13:05:12 2652713 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "A one party state ruled in interests of a small fabulously wealthy elite. Can't imagine James Connolly would have considered that socialism. Socialism was utter disaster so Chinese abandoned it. A state in which every single moment of every persons life is minutely watched and determines what they are allowed have and do. Would you like to live tgere? Or is it like Cuba and other places, just something some other poor person has to endure so western lefties get cool t shirts and memes?" I thought you were chatting about Ireland for a minute there, We are getting as bad as any other place, with the Revenue gestapo watching every citizens bank and CU account like hawks and trying to hide information of what Irish citizens are entitled to claim tax exemptions on. As for China, how they run their Country is their own business, most Chinese people abroad are quite happy with how their Country is run, most Countries around the world have brutally suppressed uprisings or rival political viewpoints, even Ireland. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1565 - 23/01/2026 13:09:43 2652716 Link
Replying To Commodore: "I thought you were chatting about Ireland for a minute there, We are getting as bad as any other place, with the Revenue gestapo watching every citizens bank and CU account like hawks and trying to hide information of what Irish citizens are entitled to claim tax exemptions on. As for China, how they run their Country is their own business, most Chinese people abroad are quite happy with how their Country is run, most Countries around the world have brutally suppressed uprisings or rival political viewpoints, even Ireland." The vast majority if Chinese people have no say at all in how the country is run. And if you think the way Revenue monitor tax is like Social Credit based on total surveillance of every single aspect of a Chinese persons life then you ought read something about it. The tens of millions murdered were not part of any rebellion by the way. They were victims of a random terrorist regime. Which still rules through mass internment, murder, torture and genocide. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3942 - 23/01/2026 14:50:55 2652736 Link