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Replying To Goreylad1985:  "Donegal was one of those pro-Treaty voting counties though..
Majority of TD's in Donegal sided with the Treaty.
The IRA in the county at the time of the Truce/Civil War went overwhelmingly majority pro-Treaty.
Even the Sinn Fein in Donegal was pro-Treaty."
It was, but that doesn't make them right and for the record, my family were (and still are) anti-treaty and viewed those pro-Treaty TDs as traitors provided the British with the electoral vindication they needed to partition the Island and back for over a Century, isolating our fellow Countrymen.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1914 - 21/07/2026 15:42:40    2686505

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Replying To Commodore:  "It was, but that doesn't make them right and for the record, my family were (and still are) anti-treaty and viewed those pro-Treaty TDs as traitors provided the British with the electoral vindication they needed to partition the Island and back for over a Century, isolating our fellow Countrymen."
All history over 100 years ago.

Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 779 - 21/07/2026 19:10:36    2686530

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Replying To Seanfan:  "All history over 100 years ago."
It doesn't matter how long ago it was, we are still dealing with the repercussions of their actions today, its a live issue.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1914 - 22/07/2026 13:05:08    2686597

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Replying To Seanfan:  "All history over 100 years ago."
It's a case of " I'm all right Jack" for some.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2897 - 22/07/2026 14:09:25    2686605

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Replying To Seanfan:  "All history over 100 years ago."
It is not all history. The fact that the country is almost and increasingly completely dependent on overseas companies and workers and is no closer to reviving our language than 100 years ago is directly due to not securing full independence in 1921.

Of course there was no M50 and iPhones in 1921 so we should should up and be grateful :-)

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 4499 - 22/07/2026 15:52:35    2686628

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "It is not all history. The fact that the country is almost and increasingly completely dependent on overseas companies and workers and is no closer to reviving our language than 100 years ago is directly due to not securing full independence in 1921.

Of course there was no M50 and iPhones in 1921 so we should should up and be grateful :-)"
Ah stop!!

Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 779 - 22/07/2026 20:29:02    2686658

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Replying To Commodore:  "It doesn't matter how long ago it was, we are still dealing with the repercussions of their actions today, its a live issue."
And of the democratic treaty was not passed the war would have got much worse and it's likely many of us wouldn't be alive today as events and history changed.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 12216 - 23/07/2026 08:01:51    2686688

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Replying To yew_tree:  "And of the democratic treaty was not passed the war would have got much worse and it's likely many of us wouldn't be alive today as events and history changed."
No it wouldn't, Ireland (32 Counties) in 1918 General Election had already produced a clear 73/105 democratic majority that wanted independence by that stage. How could Britain conduct a terrible war on a Country that had just democratically showed its vast wish for independence?

1922 Treaty was really to give legitimacy to partition, to justify splitting the Country.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1914 - 23/07/2026 15:13:14    2686787

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