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Replying To tireoghainabu: ""A change like this is long overdue" - are you for real, herself and Michael D are joined at the hip. I note her recent support for Irish unity as she has barely mentioned Irish unity during her lifetime in politics and she will soon forget it when she is elected." I'm not sure if they are joined at the hip or not, however they do have a few things in common. For starters they are both fluent Irish speakers, very important let me add, they are both highly educated, they are both people of convincing words albeit low keyed.
I wouldn't worry too much about a united Ireland as that will happen sooner rather than later of that I have no doubt, I would go as far as saying should Catherine Connelly become our next president, she most likely will be in office when the transition takes place, that soon.
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Replying To supersub15: "I'm not sure if they are joined at the hip or not, however they do have a few things in common. For starters they are both fluent Irish speakers, very important let me add, they are both highly educated, they are both people of convincing words albeit low keyed.
I wouldn't worry too much about a united Ireland as that will happen sooner rather than later of that I have no doubt, I would go as far as saying should Catherine Connelly become our next president, she most likely will be in office when the transition takes place, that soon." It will never happen if its down to a "border poll" for several reasons, not least that it will be beaten going by electoral numbers. There is not even the criteria for one to be called.
SF know this by the way. They signed the GFA and now run part of Ireland for London.
Not to fear they will quieten down about it after Connolly - who has absolutely NO role in anything to do with north or GFA or border polls! - is elected and will be dragged out for next Stormont elections when the sheep will fall for it again.
Dia linn ...
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3739 - 21/10/2025 12:04:29
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Replying To tireoghainabu: ""A change like this is long overdue" - are you for real, herself and Michael D are joined at the hip. I note her recent support for Irish unity as she has barely mentioned Irish unity during her lifetime in politics and she will soon forget it when she is elected." Michael D, McAleese and Robinson have had their day successfully as president of Ireland, C,C if elected will be the start of a new beginning, she may very well start by making sure that the selection of presidential candidates for the next President of Ireland bears no resemblance to that of the current method of selection. She may very well make sure that the interviewing techniques used to grill the candidate would be carried out to the required extreme but with gloves on.
The change that CC may look for may not be welcomed by party politicians or party leaders, if the roll of our president is supposedly non-political then so too should the selection of presidential candidates, I sometimes wondered why Michael D, McAleese and Robinson did not seek to legislate for change in candidate selection that in itself suggests in its self like all other mere mortals they too are not perfect.
I hope this goes some way towards answering your question.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3277 - 21/10/2025 12:14:26
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Replying To supersub15: "I'm not sure if they are joined at the hip or not, however they do have a few things in common. For starters they are both fluent Irish speakers, very important let me add, they are both highly educated, they are both people of convincing words albeit low keyed.
I wouldn't worry too much about a united Ireland as that will happen sooner rather than later of that I have no doubt, I would go as far as saying should Catherine Connelly become our next president, she most likely will be in office when the transition takes place, that soon." Ah hear! While Its nice to hear people speaking Irish its deffo NOT important for a President. Why do you think so? Will they be speaking Irish while meeting Trump or King Charles?
brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 363 - 21/10/2025 12:34:55
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Replying To BarneyGrant: " Replying To Commodore: "<b>Well maybe these FF/FG should do an audit with how many hospital bed we will need on average for the next 30 years and how many staff we need to man those beds, and order the Department of Education to get their fingers out. Its almost as if they don't want to fix things.
Then again, this is the same FF/FG Political team who build the World's most expensive hospital on private land owned by a Convent or Order of nuns, and instead of compulsory purchase, they supposedly opted to pay rent for eternity. They also are responsible for building the worlds most expensive bicycle shed at €365k, which I could have done for a fraction of that price.
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<b>Correction 1:</b> Its the land for the new Irish Maternity hospital (Not the New Children's Hospital) which is owned by the Religious Sisters of Charity, through the St Vincent's Healthcare Group within which they are the major shareholder. The State will own the building, but not the land its built on, that will be leased by the Government.
<b>Correction 2: </b>The bicycle shed at Leinster House commissioned by FF/FG cost €336,000, not €365,000 as I mistakenly stated.
There needs to be a serious independent investigation into the bicycle shed, as spending €336k of public money on something that should cost less than €30k feels like there is something dodgy going on. Do you agree?"</div>They've thrown away billions to IPAS contractors. The bike shed is chump change," €336,000 Bicycle Shed might be chump change to them in the context of the money spent on IPAS, but its still a gross mismanagement of public money. I don't like being a person that is always moaning about public money getting wasted by Government, but in recent years this stuff is really annoying me. We have a lack of front line workers such as Doctors, nurses, Gardai etc, those we do have are overworked and underpaid and there is always a shortage of funding. Then we see crazy things happen like Bicycle sheds, hospitals etc. Maybe too much blame is put on Government, and more focus should be put on the Public sector department heads who are ultimately responsible.
Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1503 - 21/10/2025 12:49:30
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Replying To Viking66: "Not being funny lads but what difference will it really make to our lives who is elected to be President? Zig or Zag or the carbon monoxide alarm canary could do a good job of shaking hands/wings and cutting tape." Well it won't one iota. And some of the media debate around policy are pointless because they will have absolutely zero input on any policy. Both will do a capable job in the roll as being president. Most like zig or zag or canary would but there was one wannabe candidate who failed to get on the ballot that wouldn't have even managed to do the basics well.
FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 421 - 21/10/2025 12:50:58
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Replying To supersub15: "I'm not sure if they are joined at the hip or not, however they do have a few things in common. For starters they are both fluent Irish speakers, very important let me add, they are both highly educated, they are both people of convincing words albeit low keyed.
I wouldn't worry too much about a united Ireland as that will happen sooner rather than later of that I have no doubt, I would go as far as saying should Catherine Connelly become our next president, she most likely will be in office when the transition takes place, that soon." Ah United Ireland, a nice romantic idea, but how exactly in reality do you think it will happen. Will Unionists just accept it on the chin do you think?
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Replying To supersub15: "Michael D, McAleese and Robinson have had their day successfully as president of Ireland, C,C if elected will be the start of a new beginning, she may very well start by making sure that the selection of presidential candidates for the next President of Ireland bears no resemblance to that of the current method of selection. She may very well make sure that the interviewing techniques used to grill the candidate would be carried out to the required extreme but with gloves on.
The change that CC may look for may not be welcomed by party politicians or party leaders, if the roll of our president is supposedly non-political then so too should the selection of presidential candidates, I sometimes wondered why Michael D, McAleese and Robinson did not seek to legislate for change in candidate selection that in itself suggests in its self like all other mere mortals they too are not perfect.
I hope this goes some way towards answering your question." I'm not sure what all the fuss is this time about the selection of candidates. It's always been the same just for one reason or another it's left us with only two candidates, which isn't ideal, but it's not the end of the world. People were giving out that there were too many on the ballot last time. The system has worked well most of the time, it just happened to be uninspiring on this occassion. Anyone cribbing about the lack of choice and complete reform of the system or cancelling the election should be asking themselves, why weren't you volunteering for an alternative candidate early this year to get them into a good position for selection. The minute Michael D got re elected 7 years ago people knew they had 7 years to work on getting someone that represented them onto the ballot paper. Why wasn't Peadar Toibin, and the rest of the disgruntled, preparing someone that they felt represented them way back and do the necessary ground work? Catherine Connolly threw her hat in early doors which worked to her advantage. Maria Steen turns up like a student trying to do an assignment the night before the due date. She definitely would have got the 20 Oireachtas votes if they had worked on that early enough.
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Replying To supersub15: "Michael D, McAleese and Robinson have had their day successfully as president of Ireland, C,C if elected will be the start of a new beginning, she may very well start by making sure that the selection of presidential candidates for the next President of Ireland bears no resemblance to that of the current method of selection. She may very well make sure that the interviewing techniques used to grill the candidate would be carried out to the required extreme but with gloves on.
The change that CC may look for may not be welcomed by party politicians or party leaders, if the roll of our president is supposedly non-political then so too should the selection of presidential candidates, I sometimes wondered why Michael D, McAleese and Robinson did not seek to legislate for change in candidate selection that in itself suggests in its self like all other mere mortals they too are not perfect.
I hope this goes some way towards answering your question." I think you either misunderstand or overestimate the "powers" of the presidency. The President has no power to introduce or influence in any way the process for securing nominations to the position. To state anything else is just plain wrong.
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Replying To Bon: "Ah United Ireland, a nice romantic idea, but how exactly in reality do you think it will happen. Will Unionists just accept it on the chin do you think?" Ha ha. Good question. Also does anyone in the North want back into the EU? What would happen to prices each side of the Border?
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Replying To supersub15: "Michael D, McAleese and Robinson have had their day successfully as president of Ireland, C,C if elected will be the start of a new beginning, she may very well start by making sure that the selection of presidential candidates for the next President of Ireland bears no resemblance to that of the current method of selection. She may very well make sure that the interviewing techniques used to grill the candidate would be carried out to the required extreme but with gloves on.
The change that CC may look for may not be welcomed by party politicians or party leaders, if the roll of our president is supposedly non-political then so too should the selection of presidential candidates, I sometimes wondered why Michael D, McAleese and Robinson did not seek to legislate for change in candidate selection that in itself suggests in its self like all other mere mortals they too are not perfect.
I hope this goes some way towards answering your question." You're a great lad for saying lots yet saying nothing at all.
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Replying To FullOfPorter: "I'm not sure what all the fuss is this time about the selection of candidates. It's always been the same just for one reason or another it's left us with only two candidates, which isn't ideal, but it's not the end of the world. People were giving out that there were too many on the ballot last time. The system has worked well most of the time, it just happened to be uninspiring on this occassion. Anyone cribbing about the lack of choice and complete reform of the system or cancelling the election should be asking themselves, why weren't you volunteering for an alternative candidate early this year to get them into a good position for selection. The minute Michael D got re elected 7 years ago people knew they had 7 years to work on getting someone that represented them onto the ballot paper. Why wasn't Peadar Toibin, and the rest of the disgruntled, preparing someone that they felt represented them way back and do the necessary ground work? Catherine Connolly threw her hat in early doors which worked to her advantage. Maria Steen turns up like a student trying to do an assignment the night before the due date. She definitely would have got the 20 Oireachtas votes if they had worked on that early enough." Don't think Maria Steen would have gotten the nomination no matter how long she had campaigned. The political parties were determined to keep her out, especially after the family referendums last year, in which she played a major role in defeating the government. Plus she destroyed Michael Martin in a TV debate at the time.
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Replying To Square_B: "You're a great lad for saying lots yet saying nothing at all." Then don't read it, simple as that.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3277 - 21/10/2025 18:42:20
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Replying To lilywhite1: "Don't think Maria Steen would have gotten the nomination no matter how long she had campaigned. The political parties were determined to keep her out, especially after the family referendums last year, in which she played a major role in defeating the government. Plus she destroyed Michael Martin in a TV debate at the time." Fg ff alot others didn't stop anyone running anyway u can argue she left too late wasn't all down to been blocked
Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 1043 - 21/10/2025 18:54:04
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Replying To brayballer: "Ah hear! While Its nice to hear people speaking Irish its deffo NOT important for a President. Why do you think so? Will they be speaking Irish while meeting Trump or King Charles?" Why not speak it.? Trump might think she is speaking in Leitrim English and King Charles might think she is going to be handing out lorgaire ordog glas.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3277 - 21/10/2025 19:19:27
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