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Replying To SouthGalway:  "The USA has had numerous deals in history for territories: the purchase of Alaska from Russia, the Louisiana Purchase, etc., this isn't new. I would still prefer to let the Greenlanders decide for themselves via a fair vote."
Keep comparing apples and oranges.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8724 - 21/01/2026 17:10:20    2652364

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Replying To katser:  "Agree Trump won't take Greenland, Im assuming he just wants to see what sort of balls Europe has!
Do you think Europe has being taking advantage of the United States ever since the liberation of Europe after WW 2?"
To a certain degree but it works both ways. Are you saying the US has gained nothing from having bases and troops all over Europe and around the world? It's about it power and influence…wake up. It's about projecting American power and influence in the world. If there was nothing to be gained from it, they would not have stayed.

Europe fell asleep but seems to be awaking to the f at the need their own defence. Of course you have Micky mouse countries like Ireland who bury our heads in the sand when it comes to defence. That will need to change and appears to be. Ireland has to play its part.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11883 - 21/01/2026 17:11:02    2652365

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Replying To SouthGalway:  "The USA has had numerous deals in history for territories: the purchase of Alaska from Russia, the Louisiana Purchase, etc., this isn't new. I would still prefer to let the Greenlanders decide for themselves via a fair vote."
That's already in place. Greenlanders have the right to vote for independence whenever they want.
The reason they haven't done so is essentially because they're not ready yet. They're not self-sufficient from an economic point of view and they benefit from the very strong social supports available in Denmark.
They will likely eventually vote for independence. They seem to be adamant however, that they don't want to become part of the US.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2714 - 21/01/2026 17:45:30    2652371

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Replying To Square_B:  "Oh really, give into a bully. Right got ya :rolleyes:"
At the end of the day we are all relying on the USA for defence in the western world and this country is living off the taxes and employment we enjoy from American multinationals here, don't bite the hand that feed you.
What difference is it to us if Greenland is owned by Denmark or the USA? I'll answer that for you, none.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3667 - 21/01/2026 17:56:21    2652373

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "That's already in place. Greenlanders have the right to vote for independence whenever they want.
The reason they haven't done so is essentially because they're not ready yet. They're not self-sufficient from an economic point of view and they benefit from the very strong social supports available in Denmark.
They will likely eventually vote for independence. They seem to be adamant however, that they don't want to become part of the US."
Who'd want to join that madhouse!

Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 323 - 21/01/2026 22:22:57    2652417

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "At the end of the day we are all relying on the USA for defence in the western world and this country is living off the taxes and employment we enjoy from American multinationals here, don't bite the hand that feed you.
What difference is it to us if Greenland is owned by Denmark or the USA? I'll answer that for you, none."
Anyhow did you enjoy your TACO earlier?

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1687 - 21/01/2026 23:10:44    2652424

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "That's already in place. Greenlanders have the right to vote for independence whenever they want.
The reason they haven't done so is essentially because they're not ready yet. They're not self-sufficient from an economic point of view and they benefit from the very strong social supports available in Denmark.
They will likely eventually vote for independence. They seem to be adamant however, that they don't want to become part of the US."
You're probably right. I'd just like to see a fair vote on the topic. From what I hear many there are not happy with Denmark but I could be wrong hence my wish for a fair vote with all sides getting equal coverage.

SouthGalway (Galway) - Posts: 179 - 21/01/2026 23:43:36    2652427

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Keep comparing apples and oranges."
Are you sure it's not apples and onions? Let's keep it accurate please.

SouthGalway (Galway) - Posts: 179 - 21/01/2026 23:44:47    2652428

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "At the end of the day we are all relying on the USA for defence in the western world and this country is living off the taxes and employment we enjoy from American multinationals here, don't bite the hand that feed you.
What difference is it to us if Greenland is owned by Denmark or the USA? I'll answer that for you, none."
It might make a difference to us if it emboldens Putin to make further incursions into Europe and Ireland has to accommodate more Ukrainians & Baltic people. There is PLENTY of evidence that the old céad míle fáilte only goes so far.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 10205 - 22/01/2026 08:52:21    2652439

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Replying To SouthGalway:  "You're probably right. I'd just like to see a fair vote on the topic. From what I hear many there are not happy with Denmark but I could be wrong hence my wish for a fair vote with all sides getting equal coverage."
From what you hear? You chat to many Greenlanders on a weekly basis ?

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8724 - 22/01/2026 09:56:06    2652447

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Replying To SouthGalway:  "Are you sure it's not apples and onions? Let's keep it accurate please."
No apple and onion is a kids tv show.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18091 - 22/01/2026 10:11:07    2652449

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Replying To SouthGalway:  "You're probably right. I'd just like to see a fair vote on the topic. From what I hear many there are not happy with Denmark but I could be wrong hence my wish for a fair vote with all sides getting equal coverage."
All the polls conducted so far reckon less than 10% of Greenlanders want to be American.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18091 - 22/01/2026 10:12:37    2652451

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "From what you hear? You chat to many Greenlanders on a weekly basis ?"
Of course I don't chat to Greenlanders, but I have read here or there that not all are happy at being ruled by distant Denmark. What percent? No idea hence hoping for a fair election where they decide and not others.

SouthGalway (Galway) - Posts: 179 - 22/01/2026 10:18:56    2652454

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Replying To Seanfan:  "Who'd want to join that madhouse!"
Lots of people apparently as a Wall had to be built and ICE are deporting them if they don't leave voluntarily. Some had to be paid to leave. You should try to keep up lad.

SouthGalway (Galway) - Posts: 179 - 22/01/2026 10:23:03    2652458

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In reality given the recent actions of the United States the Irish government should really cut all ties. They will not because they prioritise the blood money the USA can provide. The GAA prioritise money over morals in the Allianz deal. Financial interests and greed will sadly always come before morals.

This is also seen in the response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine where Russia was rightfully sanctioned and Israel's occupation of the Palestinians territories. Israel has being illegally occupying Palestine since 1967 with no such sanctions. Western hypocrisy is nauseating.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1723 - 22/01/2026 10:32:42    2652465

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Replying To Viking66:  "No apple and onion is a kids tv show."
Apple and pomegranate is another one

jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1890 - 22/01/2026 10:47:47    2652468

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Replying To REDANDBLACK30:  "In reality given the recent actions of the United States the Irish government should really cut all ties. They will not because they prioritise the blood money the USA can provide. The GAA prioritise money over morals in the Allianz deal. Financial interests and greed will sadly always come before morals.

This is also seen in the response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine where Russia was rightfully sanctioned and Israel's occupation of the Palestinians territories. Israel has being illegally occupying Palestine since 1967 with no such sanctions. Western hypocrisy is nauseating."
Yeah you're right there in what you're saying re: hypocrisy. I don't know how Western leaders can keep a straight face half the time to be honest.

But in saying that, if we did cut all ties with the US as you say, we'd be financially doomed. If all the US multinationals decided to pull out our economy would be shattered. I would say at least 80% of our corporate tax receipts come from them. The Exchequer would lose out on billions if such a scenario were to occur, however unlikely.

The vast majority of people just want to get by. Work a good job, make a few pound, raise their families and hopefully the lives of our kids and grandkids will be prosperous and healthy. That might sound selfish but it's just a fact. If that means we have to continue to do business with unpleasant regimes (hopefully temporary) then most people will shrug their shoulders and get on with it.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 10205 - 22/01/2026 11:11:04    2652473

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Replying To REDANDBLACK30:  "In reality given the recent actions of the United States the Irish government should really cut all ties. They will not because they prioritise the blood money the USA can provide. The GAA prioritise money over morals in the Allianz deal. Financial interests and greed will sadly always come before morals.

This is also seen in the response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine where Russia was rightfully sanctioned and Israel's occupation of the Palestinians territories. Israel has being illegally occupying Palestine since 1967 with no such sanctions. Western hypocrisy is nauseating."
Maybe read up who started the 1967 war? The situation in Israel and Palestine is way more complicated than Russia and Ukraine. It dates back to the start of Islam, maybe even before it. And Ukraine never tried to wipe out all the Russians living in Ukraine.
At the same time that doesn't excuse the human suffering there currently is in Gaza, or the Jewish extremists grabbing land in the West Bank.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18091 - 22/01/2026 11:35:43    2652480

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Yeah you're right there in what you're saying re: hypocrisy. I don't know how Western leaders can keep a straight face half the time to be honest.

But in saying that, if we did cut all ties with the US as you say, we'd be financially doomed. If all the US multinationals decided to pull out our economy would be shattered. I would say at least 80% of our corporate tax receipts come from them. The Exchequer would lose out on billions if such a scenario were to occur, however unlikely.

The vast majority of people just want to get by. Work a good job, make a few pound, raise their families and hopefully the lives of our kids and grandkids will be prosperous and healthy. That might sound selfish but it's just a fact. If that means we have to continue to do business with unpleasant regimes (hopefully temporary) then most people will shrug their shoulders and get on with it."
There are an awful lot of unpleasant regimes sadly.
Nearly the whole middle East, China, Russia to start with.
The US multi Nationals are here for free access to 450m customers in the EU, low Corporation tax and they don't have to learn a language.

Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 323 - 22/01/2026 12:00:40    2652486

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