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You're being kind there, it's worse than very mediocre. I didn't claim they have any mission statement. Ultimately Kenny will be shown the door when we fail to qualify for the Euros. Kenny had no experience coaching at full international level. But I have to admire the man for trying to play a better brand of football. He'll leave after this contract and I think the next coach will make us difficult to beat. If we ever qualify for a major tournament we'll celebrate like we won one rather than improving for the tournament to do well there and not just be happy to make up the numbers.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7335 - 19/03/2023 16:04:37 2464772 Link 5 |
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I wish Mr Kenny and the Republic team well. But I don't rate their chances very highly. Sad to say that the FAI have allowed our national team to denigrate into "minnow status". And they seem to just be there as the IRFU's little brother. Some good news, it has been said by Rugby types, that if Ireland did not have GAA, Ireland would be much stronger, well Irish rugby is No.1 in World at the moment. So well done GAA too. galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 19/03/2023 16:39:56 2464797 Link 0 |
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Irish rugby types mainly, and some GAA, used to sneer at the Ireland football team in the 90's as- plastic paddys. Some "plastic paddys" on the current Irish rugby team.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 19/03/2023 16:42:38 2464802 Link 3 |
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Irish rugby is No1 in the World in part because they've acquired keyman talent in New Zealand and Australia, not because they've poached GAA players, or was Tadhg Furlong potentially the second coming of Tony Doran.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3410 - 19/03/2023 16:50:24 2464808 Link 0 |
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That quote is often ascribed to Eamon deValera, who was a rugby player in his youth. One has to say there likely is truth in it as well. We have a very unique sporting armosphere and I must be one of very few who watched GAA, rugby, and soccer and likes all three - and can dissociate them depending on my company. Its sad that most Irish most people have one or two they like and tend to hate the third, its a strange dynamic. The three just dont mix. On international soccer, wish them well but I have a terribly bleak outlook I must say. Id back a merger with the NI team and start again as someone else said earlier. ROI football and the FAI brand is on its knees. On that... its likely coming but will take another generation. On the rugby, delighted with the slam, and I think we have a special team atm, but the farcical nature of the WC means 2/3 big dogs are going out early. If any Irish team can get the semis and beyond, its this one. Sexton needs to minded. Without him the wheels fall off. Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 587 - 19/03/2023 16:55:22 2464813 Link 6 |
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I like soccer, rugby and the GAA and would follow all three. To be balanced when discussing our international results in rugby and soccer you have to take into context the depth of the opposition. Irish rugby are in the top 8 by just doing the minimum required and that would go as far as just continuing to field a team in the Six Nations with the finances that brings. The top rugby nations are so far ahead financially and commercially, you cannot drop out of the top 8 or certainly shouldn't, also the game is only given a token gesture at best amongst most of the nations around the world. The IRFU appear to be doing a lot more than the minimum and the FAI did make a mess of their structures. However I'd say qualifying for a major tournament in soccer would be a bigger achievement than an Irish rugby team winning a slam and hopefully the soccer team can get back to a major tournament in the next five or ten years. It's great Ireland won another slam and we should celebrate it but will it lead to an Irish team competing at the only tournament when the other few countries that share similar resources are all at the same fitness, conditioning and peak condition? History says it won't but lets hope this Ireland team change that. I suspect the country will be brought along in a pre WC media frenzy again with the same outcome though. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 19/03/2023 17:19:01 2464824 Link 1 |
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GAA deserves credit for backing Irish Rugby and other sports. galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 19/03/2023 19:46:31 2464887 Link 1 |
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James Lowe is good. how isnt he? No interest from majority of those in the associations on both sides who dont want a merger. many fans wouldnt either KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3494 - 19/03/2023 21:33:36 2464943 Link 0 |
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That isnt why ireland is number 1 Ireland is number 1 because theyve improved coaching, structures and thats at all levels. we were crap at a lot of these things for years. our under 20s are consistently winning or very competitive in their competitions as well. no GAA players have been poached either KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3494 - 19/03/2023 21:37:54 2464945 Link 0 |
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So no GAA has moved to Rugby?
oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 20/03/2023 08:12:31 2464965 Link 0 |
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What players were poached?
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3494 - 20/03/2023 10:24:17 2465015 Link 0 |
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I dont agree with the statement of people not liking GAA, soccer and rugby. I enjoy them all and most of the people I know are likewise. Yes , many of them have different preferences within them but I can honestly say I dont know anybody who likes any of these and hates another one. I do know a small number of people who hate all 3!
anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 839 - 20/03/2023 10:56:03 2465040 Link 0 |
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Ireland is Number 1 because 40% of the panel is imported as is the management. Take out the imports and where would they be? SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 304 - 20/03/2023 10:59:30 2465043 Link 1 |
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On one level Killingfields is right. It is good that GAA congrats their IRFU rivals. On another level I think CLG/GAA need to fight their corner. galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 20/03/2023 11:07:41 2465050 Link 0 |
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Being no1 doesn't matter. Winning 6nations and slams and test series and the world cup is what matters in the world of rugby. If they win the 2023 World Cup, it'll be time to start crowing about No1. If they don't, it won't.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3410 - 20/03/2023 11:13:02 2465058 Link 0 |
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I just think your outlook seems to reflect a bit of a little Irelander mentality, for some reason you have a hang up with the success of Ireland in an (albeit limited) international sport of rugby union. Granted the team is a bit of an artifical construct, and are put out as whiter than white by the media, but they represent Ireland on the world stage. And theyre a savage team. Not looking for a spat or anything and obviously this is a GAA forum first and foremost and we're all here to chat about that, but on a little, damp island off the coast of Europe with about 7 million people who are already hopelessly divided by historical prejudices, we will never, ever, ever acheive anything in any international sport if your attitude prevails. The greater question is; is the purity of Gaelic sports worth failure, malaise or begrudgery toward even modest success in other sports?
Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 587 - 20/03/2023 11:32:40 2465074 Link 4 |
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You are some poster to ask questions when making a reply, - so if you call "Invited" to play Rugby "Poached" then yes there are some who took the invitation, including a few on yesterdays under 20 panel who are now starting academy. You being from the home of Rugby and being a Rugby fanatic should know the history of Irish players, from the late 60's on lads were asked / invited to throw in their lot with the Rugby game and it gained momentum from there, they wouldn't have made the national team without being invited / poached which ever suits. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 20/03/2023 12:16:17 2465107 Link 0 |
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You should seriously think about changing your user name! It doesn't matter what you dress it up as, people who come from other countries are not "we". Especially those only here because they are being paid to be here, and probably wouldn't get anything like the same lifestyle in their own country. Nor do they pretend to be "new Irish". No more than any Irish person who went to England thought themselves as "new English." BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2518 - 20/03/2023 12:40:00 2465129 Link 0 |
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That isnt true. 40% of what squad is imported? Any international sport cant be limited to those born in any country or parentage and grandparentage alone. The world has got so much smaller these days. people migrate far more. there will be plenty more with irish heritage likely to represent australia in sport with numbers down there who are not likely to move back here and will settle there with kids or marry aussies and stay ther. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3494 - 20/03/2023 13:31:14 2465160 Link 1 |
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rugby isnt a limited international sport. the team isnt any more of an artificial construct as any other international team in any other sport.
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3494 - 20/03/2023 13:32:44 2465161 Link 0 |