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Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12021 - 04/01/2023 12:26:23 2451073 Link 5 |
Who could forget the 'Ginger Pele'.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2183 - 04/01/2023 12:31:51 2451074 Link 0 |
Yes, bear with me. They were incredible, we know that, but neither had a prime as such. Ali flew through the ranks and beat Liston twice, then the whole Vietnam thing kept him out of the ring at what should have been his peak. He came back a totally different fighter have lost son of his speed. Still beat foreman and fraiser but was already in decline at that stage. Tyson at 18 was a revelation. Incredibly powerful, technically perfect, difficult to hit. Then cus died and he lost the plot. Still had a great career, but if not for misfortune, might have spent a whole career dominating everyone. I'm that way, they are similar to best. Amazing no doubt, but we never actually saw the best of them. If either of the above had the type of journey that say mayweather had, they could have retired undefeated too Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2115 - 04/01/2023 13:00:19 2451081 Link 0 |
Apologies for the interruption, just to say it was me who said he wasn't great and not Cockney_Cat (UK
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2775 - 04/01/2023 13:41:50 2451090 Link 0 |
In regards to George Best. He was named European Footballer of the Year in 1968 and came fifth in the FIFA Player of the Century that is very definition of great. And best players that played alongside him called him great which i think I'd judge more than what's written here. No offence supersub15 Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3135 - 04/01/2023 14:25:06 2451096 Link 4 |
Agree. When Neymar is in full flight he's a lovely footballer to watch no doubt. But like you I'd have Ronaldinho, Kaka, Rivaldo and Romario ahead of him...and those are only a few I've seen in my lifetime watching different Brazil teams.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 8517 - 04/01/2023 14:52:06 2451107 Link 0 |
Have a look at the YouTube video "George Best - Legendary Dribbling Skills" often on very bad pitches.
letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 240 - 04/01/2023 15:00:11 2451110 Link 0 |
Best at his best was one hell of a player, he would have been some craic to go for a night on the town with too, pity the drink overcame him, in the modern era if he'd have been looked after and stayed sober he would have been in the same league as Messi. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2374 - 04/01/2023 16:03:45 2451128 Link 0 |
Those 4 for sure and obviously Pele and Ronaldo but lets not forget Cafu and Roberto Carlos. Reckon it's safe to say Garrincha, Carlos Alberto, Zico, Socrates, Dani Alves, Kleberson, Rivellino etc
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12021 - 04/01/2023 16:26:09 2451132 Link 5 |
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars - the rest I just squandered". George Best.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2183 - 04/01/2023 16:57:09 2451137 Link 2 |
No offence taken at all, - I don't feel comfortable arguing whether he was great or not, one reason is because he is not with us anymore and I did have great respect for him, another reason is because he brought a level of brilliance to his game that other players could only dream of, so yes he was brilliant in every sense of the word. There is only one level of greatness in my opinion, there is no such thing as great plus 10% or great plus 50%, he stopped short of being great, because greatness takes many years and sometimes a sporting lifetime. If only, if only, if only, etc. RIP George. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2775 - 04/01/2023 18:43:25 2451163 Link 0 |
When Waterford played United in the European Cup at Lansdowne Best came up the wing, the two fullbacks went to him and saw no danger keeping him outside them but he curled the ball around them into the net with Peter Thomas still hugging the near post. A nice sequel to that story. Waterford were up 2 nil at half time in the second leg at Old Trafford. Al Casey R.I. P. whom I worked with in the Paper Mills at the time, scored. When he came back he told us about the goal. He went for a ball with Tony Dunne and Dunne hit him so hard he thought his legs were broke. While on the ground Tony shock him saying get up you will be a national hero in Ireland tomorrow that ball went in the net. Al looked at him and said "that's fine for you but you don't have to go in on the 4 to 12 shift tomorrow evening". Dunne was rolling around with the laughing and came over still in the stitches after the game and ask Al is that for real. John O 'Neill sleeped on a stool in our canteen the night before they went over. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2547 - 04/01/2023 19:59:32 2451168 Link 3 |
https://www.balls.ie/gaa/gianluca-vialli-gaelic-football-394780 Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 8345 - 07/01/2023 08:20:49 2451394 Link 0 |
are you sure he came 5th? don't think he was that high on the list.
Rosineri1 (UK) - Posts: 2099 - 08/01/2023 18:04:17 2451548 Link 0 |
Great article in the Independent today by Joe Brolly. Bang on the money. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9575 - 08/01/2023 18:08:58 2451550 Link 0 |
I hope he comes out and call the Glen players out for the pulling down of Moyallen players, he made a fool of himself when it was Sean Cavanagh.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 1699 - 08/01/2023 18:50:22 2451563 Link 6 |
This is a 'Non-Gaa Forum' topic.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2183 - 08/01/2023 19:33:03 2451579 Link 1 |
Just read it, I will let it settle then I will read it again.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2775 - 08/01/2023 19:50:26 2451593 Link 0 |
You worry about your so called Royals being on their way out.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 1699 - 08/01/2023 20:17:29 2451606 Link 6 |
Brolly makes some good points. It is all history now given that the IRA disbanded without achieving its objective. That song might as well have a chorus saying "Ooh, Ah, Up the United Irishmen" but it still annoys anti national elements. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 08/01/2023 20:37:01 2451619 Link 1 |