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Replying To Viking66: "Same as. Was all too rushed. I minded myself and my family. Didn't spend time with people outside that circle in enclosed spaces for a long time.
There's still too many things I know that have never been adequately explained. People I know personally are still not right after taking vaccines. Vaccine status wasnt recorded for most deaths, and still arent. Overall mortality in 2020 wasnt really far out of line with 2019 or any subsequent years. Lads are still dropping like flies at English soccer matches, that just didnt happen to anywhere near the same extent pre covid." Just on your last line stoppages in games is it not the case games just carried on in past when people were ill in crowd?? There were no defibs at ground or quality of medical personal to nowadays?
You could also say this never happened pre Covid just as much as pre vaccines depending how you want to suit your agenda
Also bar Erikson who inter say wasn't vaccinated no issue with players to any great extent despite what online will say.
Like it was far greater in mid 00s mcanallan, foe, John McCall the Irish u20 and feher a benfica player all passed away in a short window.
I believe energy drinks were queried as issues back then
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Replying To Viking66: "Same as. Was all too rushed. I minded myself and my family. Didn't spend time with people outside that circle in enclosed spaces for a long time.
There's still too many things I know that have never been adequately explained. People I know personally are still not right after taking vaccines. Vaccine status wasnt recorded for most deaths, and still arent. Overall mortality in 2020 wasnt really far out of line with 2019 or any subsequent years. Lads are still dropping like flies at English soccer matches, that just didnt happen to anywhere near the same extent pre covid." Thats an incredible jump, lads dropping like flies so must be vaccines? Who are the lads? One of the biggest causes of cardiac arrest in young people now is cocaine.
FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 516 - 17/12/2025 12:35:35
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Replying To jm25: "Just on your last line stoppages in games is it not the case games just carried on in past when people were ill in crowd?? There were no defibs at ground or quality of medical personal to nowadays?
You could also say this never happened pre Covid just as much as pre vaccines depending how you want to suit your agenda
Also bar Erikson who inter say wasn't vaccinated no issue with players to any great extent despite what online will say.
Like it was far greater in mid 00s mcanallan, foe, John McCall the Irish u20 and feher a benfica player all passed away in a short window.
I believe energy drinks were queried as issues back then" I'm not getting into this debate all over again. But ask yourself this- why were the goalposts shifted so many times? It started out with vaccines that were developed in an unbelievably short period of time, with little or no human testing. We were told get this vaccine to save yourself. Then it was discovered that covid didnt kill most people who caught it. So it became get this vaccine to save Nanny. Then shortly after that it was discovered that none of the vaccines actually prevented you from getting covid so even if you did get the vaccine you could still give Nanny covid. So the new goalposts were get the vaccine and you won't get as sick when you catch covid. Then after many more people who weren't vaccinated at all got covid and weren't any sicker than when they had other viruses, or didnt get sick at all, the goalposts were shifted again to "vulnerable people".
All the while annual overall mortality in 2020, when the majority of people were unvaccinated, was very little different to the previous and subsequent years.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17815 - 17/12/2025 12:49:57
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Replying To Viking66: "Same as. Was all too rushed. I minded myself and my family. Didn't spend time with people outside that circle in enclosed spaces for a long time.
There's still too many things I know that have never been adequately explained. People I know personally are still not right after taking vaccines. Vaccine status wasnt recorded for most deaths, and still arent. Overall mortality in 2020 wasnt really far out of line with 2019 or any subsequent years. Lads are still dropping like flies at English soccer matches, that just didnt happen to anywhere near the same extent pre covid." If you look at how many young footballers etc developed heart issues, I don't rem that pre the covid vaccines, I know most people I know who took the vaccines regret it now, I see a dramatic increase in all kinds of cancers here among fairly young people.
I know these things occur anyway but to me and from generally chatting to people it's kind of obvious that something weird is going on.
Of course some say it's because of the effects of covid 19 itself rather than the vaccines and for a lay person there is no way of knowing but I have a feeling in maybe 10 or 20 years when someone does an in depth study of the whole thing they will find that the vaccines done harm too.
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Replying To jm25: "Just on your last line stoppages in games is it not the case games just carried on in past when people were ill in crowd?? There were no defibs at ground or quality of medical personal to nowadays?
You could also say this never happened pre Covid just as much as pre vaccines depending how you want to suit your agenda
Also bar Erikson who inter say wasn't vaccinated no issue with players to any great extent despite what online will say.
Like it was far greater in mid 00s mcanallan, foe, John McCall the Irish u20 and feher a benfica player all passed away in a short window.
I believe energy drinks were queried as issues back then" I'm not getting into this debate all over again. But ask yourself this- why were the goalposts shifted so many times? It started out with vaccines that were developed in an unbelievably short period of time, with little or no human testing. We were told get this vaccine to save yourself. Then it was discovered that covid didnt kill most people who caught it. So it became get this vaccine to save Nanny. Then shortly after that it was discovered that none of the vaccines actually prevented you from getting covid so even if you did get the vaccine you could still give Nanny covid. So the new goalposts were get the vaccine and you won't get as sick when you catch covid. Then after many more people who weren't vaccinated at all got covid and weren't any sicker than when they had other viruses, or didnt get sick at all, the goalposts were shifted again to "vulnerable people".
All the while annual overall mortality in 2020, when the majority of people were unvaccinated, was very little different to the previous and subsequent years.
And also ask yourself why there havent been any figures published for incidences of deaths due to the severe side effects that we were told were possible on account of taking the covid vaccine? Within a set period of receiving a vaccine? In most cases they didnt even collect this information. They either didnt perform an autopsy at all, or they didnt record the last time the deceased had a covid vaccine administered. Or both.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17815 - 17/12/2025 13:09:47
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Replying To maroondiesel: "I am neutral on USA politics, but I pity the lads here who have Trump stuck in their heads 24/7. Every comment, every social media posting he does is headline news to lads in Ireland. Yet, FIFA is led by the same type of leadership, and you are all looking forward to the soccer World Cup. Ireland is just as corrupt and greedy as the rest of the world, by the way.
I'm also sick and disgusted by the anti-semitism in Ireland today. This is my rant to finish off the year.
Peace and goodwill to all." What anti semitism?
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Replying To Viking66: "I'm not getting into this debate all over again. But ask yourself this- why were the goalposts shifted so many times? It started out with vaccines that were developed in an unbelievably short period of time, with little or no human testing. We were told get this vaccine to save yourself. Then it was discovered that covid didnt kill most people who caught it. So it became get this vaccine to save Nanny. Then shortly after that it was discovered that none of the vaccines actually prevented you from getting covid so even if you did get the vaccine you could still give Nanny covid. So the new goalposts were get the vaccine and you won't get as sick when you catch covid. Then after many more people who weren't vaccinated at all got covid and weren't any sicker than when they had other viruses, or didnt get sick at all, the goalposts were shifted again to "vulnerable people".
All the while annual overall mortality in 2020, when the majority of people were unvaccinated, was very little different to the previous and subsequent years." I agree with a lot of what you say there but not really addressing what I asked
jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1839 - 17/12/2025 13:15:53
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Replying To Viking66: "I'm not getting into this debate all over again. But ask yourself this- why were the goalposts shifted so many times? It started out with vaccines that were developed in an unbelievably short period of time, with little or no human testing. We were told get this vaccine to save yourself. Then it was discovered that covid didnt kill most people who caught it. So it became get this vaccine to save Nanny. Then shortly after that it was discovered that none of the vaccines actually prevented you from getting covid so even if you did get the vaccine you could still give Nanny covid. So the new goalposts were get the vaccine and you won't get as sick when you catch covid. Then after many more people who weren't vaccinated at all got covid and weren't any sicker than when they had other viruses, or didnt get sick at all, the goalposts were shifted again to "vulnerable people".
All the while annual overall mortality in 2020, when the majority of people were unvaccinated, was very little different to the previous and subsequent years." Ok so mortality rate has not gone up despite what u say regards people drppping like flies at football matches
jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1839 - 17/12/2025 13:17:44
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Replying To Viking66: "I'm not getting into this debate all over again. But ask yourself this- why were the goalposts shifted so many times? It started out with vaccines that were developed in an unbelievably short period of time, with little or no human testing. We were told get this vaccine to save yourself. Then it was discovered that covid didnt kill most people who caught it. So it became get this vaccine to save Nanny. Then shortly after that it was discovered that none of the vaccines actually prevented you from getting covid so even if you did get the vaccine you could still give Nanny covid. So the new goalposts were get the vaccine and you won't get as sick when you catch covid. Then after many more people who weren't vaccinated at all got covid and weren't any sicker than when they had other viruses, or didnt get sick at all, the goalposts were shifted again to "vulnerable people".
All the while annual overall mortality in 2020, when the majority of people were unvaccinated, was very little different to the previous and subsequent years." The biggest crime was committed by the media who pushed and slammed down anyone who questioned it. I'm another one who regrets taking the first 3 vaccinations. Feeling wrecked with little energy on more days than I ever did and I blame in vaccine.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2521 - 17/12/2025 13:18:00
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Replying To BarneyGrant: "Faucci was the subject of Congressional hearings and even Intelligence reports regarding his connection to the Wuhan lab where the virus may very well have emerged, either by accident or as an artificial experiment which leaked.
Whole episode was highly dubious, Recall the videos and stills from China showing people dead in the streets?
I didn't get vaccine for simple reason that I would not trust the people who were forcing it on people to mind my dog." Remember when sky news showed videos of people dropping dead in the streets in China? Or they tried to pass off a video of an overcrowded hospital being several different countries by changing the hue and saturation of the picture?
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4085 - 17/12/2025 13:26:44
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Replying To Viking66: "I'm not getting into this debate all over again. But ask yourself this- why were the goalposts shifted so many times? It started out with vaccines that were developed in an unbelievably short period of time, with little or no human testing. We were told get this vaccine to save yourself. Then it was discovered that covid didnt kill most people who caught it. So it became get this vaccine to save Nanny. Then shortly after that it was discovered that none of the vaccines actually prevented you from getting covid so even if you did get the vaccine you could still give Nanny covid. So the new goalposts were get the vaccine and you won't get as sick when you catch covid. Then after many more people who weren't vaccinated at all got covid and weren't any sicker than when they had other viruses, or didnt get sick at all, the goalposts were shifted again to "vulnerable people".
All the while annual overall mortality in 2020, when the majority of people were unvaccinated, was very little different to the previous and subsequent years." In fairness Nanny was goosed if she crossed the county boundary. We love our county borders but we had to wait until 2020 to learn about their magical powers.
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Replying To jm25: "Ok so mortality rate has not gone up despite what u say regards people drppping like flies at football matches" Thought if I threw out that the vaxxer brigade would cling onto that bit of flotsam. How about answering some of my other points?
And you can check the mortality rates in the comfort of your home or office or other place of work, for yourself.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17815 - 17/12/2025 13:36:25
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Replying To jm25: "Just on your last line stoppages in games is it not the case games just carried on in past when people were ill in crowd?? There were no defibs at ground or quality of medical personal to nowadays?
You could also say this never happened pre Covid just as much as pre vaccines depending how you want to suit your agenda
Also bar Erikson who inter say wasn't vaccinated no issue with players to any great extent despite what online will say.
Like it was far greater in mid 00s mcanallan, foe, John McCall the Irish u20 and feher a benfica player all passed away in a short window.
I believe energy drinks were queried as issues back then" There have been ambulances at English soccer matches since my Dad brought ne to them in the 70s. Is that the question you want answered?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17815 - 17/12/2025 13:38:03
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Replying To GreenandRed: "In fairness Nanny was goosed if she crossed the county boundary. We love our county borders but we had to wait until 2020 to learn about their magical powers." :-D
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17815 - 17/12/2025 13:39:39
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Replying To GreenandRed: "In fairness Nanny was goosed if she crossed the county boundary. We love our county borders but we had to wait until 2020 to learn about their magical powers." I find it funnier with the weather warnings no distinction between clifden to portumna meanwhile a small town like cloonfad or ballaghdereen could have 2 or 3 different warnings within a few miles
jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1839 - 17/12/2025 13:40:11
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Replying To Tirchonaill1: "If you look at how many young footballers etc developed heart issues, I don't rem that pre the covid vaccines, I know most people I know who took the vaccines regret it now, I see a dramatic increase in all kinds of cancers here among fairly young people.
I know these things occur anyway but to me and from generally chatting to people it's kind of obvious that something weird is going on.
Of course some say it's because of the effects of covid 19 itself rather than the vaccines and for a lay person there is no way of knowing but I have a feeling in maybe 10 or 20 years when someone does an in depth study of the whole thing they will find that the vaccines done harm too." You don't remember mcanallen marc vivien foe fabrice muamba John McCall etc and there were lots of local stories in 00s
Why do you think defibrillators were stationed in lots of shops GAA clubs etc in villages all over country pre Covid and pre vaccines
jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1839 - 17/12/2025 13:50:18
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Replying To Viking66: "Thought if I threw out that the vaxxer brigade would cling onto that bit of flotsam. How about answering some of my other points?
And you can check the mortality rates in the comfort of your home or office or other place of work, for yourself." As I said I agreed with your previous points for most part
I can check mortality rates but I cannot be bothered so are you saying they have gone up since Covid and vaccines ?? Is there insight into the cause of increase
I've been called a vaxxer and anti vax last 2 days that's what I get for providing balance
Fwiw I got 1 jab June/ July 21 and booster late 21 wouldn't take again got purely for holidays
I had zero side affects and fitter now then ever possibly also as I drink very little nowadays and the one good thing frim Covid WFH gives me more time for running workouts etc
jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1839 - 17/12/2025 14:00:30
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Replying To Viking66: "There have been ambulances at English soccer matches since my Dad brought ne to them in the 70s. Is that the question you want answered?" No is it the case people feel ill at games pre vaccines it's just a case game continued on so we never really noticed watching and we didn't have social media to read about
A young chap passed away after a rugby game last week I believe a reaction to his diabetes that was plastered all over social media as vax related
Didnt the father of Donnellan the capt die during one of Galway 3 in a row 60s? and there was a NZ rugby player who's father died when he was playing 10 or 15 years ago
jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1839 - 17/12/2025 14:10:51
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