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Replying To supersub15:  "An open question.

Is the counting of votes for the Presential election based on the same principal as that of a general election here. ie PR system
Thanks in advance."
Yes.

Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 106 - 05/09/2025 15:55:43    2635021

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Replying To supersub15:  "Build more houses, with it comes population growth, with population growth comes more e-bikers, it's difficult to see them on the footpaths until it's too late, it should be compulsory for them to wear Hi-Viz jackets and stay off the footpaths."
How about cycle paths and less road space? its difficult to hear a bicycle regardless of how its powered. I am not an e-bike person by the way but I know from my pedal bike that hearing is no better.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2071 - 05/09/2025 18:54:35    2635034

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Bertie has pulled out.The man that brought peace to our island has been shafted.

brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 319 - 05/09/2025 21:33:55    2635041

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Replying To Seanfan:  "Yes."
Thanks for that, the reason I asked is because it's amazing the amount of people that were not sure, including myself.
Now that I know I just want to say I am not in favour of the PR system being used for a presidential election.
however I would go along with the PR arrangement / system in our general election vote for to form a new government.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3264 - 05/09/2025 22:09:18    2635045

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Replying To brayballer:  "Bertie has pulled out.The man that brought peace to our island has been shafted."
Pray tell you're actually taking the proverbial?

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1504 - 06/09/2025 12:54:46    2635074

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Replying To brayballer:  "Bertie has pulled out.The man that brought peace to our island has been shafted."
Peace followed by bankruptcy. In fairness to Berti he didn't stoop as low as Blair who also helped in the peace agreement but then helped in the killing of hundreds of thousands of innocent people in Iraq. Many times more than the number killed in the Troubles.

And it should be said that while Berti and Blair did good work, a lot of the heavy lifting and ground work was already in place starting with the likes of Fr Alec Reid, John Hume and then Major and Reynolds. The 1994 ceasefire was the massive milestone. I'm no fan of the Tories but considering what Thatcher was like, John Major really was a brave PM who took a huge risk.

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 337 - 06/09/2025 17:05:27    2635089

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Replying To brayballer:  "Bertie has pulled out.The man that brought peace to our island has been shafted."
I thought the only person who ever thought he might have a chance was Bertie.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1848 - 06/09/2025 17:23:10    2635090

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Replying To supersub15:  "Thanks for that, the reason I asked is because it's amazing the amount of people that were not sure, including myself.
Now that I know I just want to say I am not in favour of the PR system being used for a presidential election.
however I would go along with the PR arrangement / system in our general election vote for to form a new government."
PR, while not perfect, is a much better system than first past the post, which, theoretically, could give all seats to a party with 50.5 % of the vote. I believe it was recommended as a voting system by the British to protect the minority religion during the foundation of the state. If memory serves, FF tried at least once to have it abolished in favour of FPTP in a referendum.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1848 - 06/09/2025 17:30:13    2635091

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Replying To Freethinker:  "PR, while not perfect, is a much better system than first past the post, which, theoretically, could give all seats to a party with 50.5 % of the vote. I believe it was recommended as a voting system by the British to protect the minority religion during the foundation of the state. If memory serves, FF tried at least once to have it abolished in favour of FPTP in a referendum."
I understand, I do have an open mind on PR v FPTP and there's a legit argument for / against both, cast your mind back to our recent general election when our blushes were saved.

As of now 5 possible conders have dropped out of the race so there can't be much more than 4 or 5 left in the hunt, no big deal or no need for outside contractors to come in and count the votes, There's about 2 in with a real chance 3 more in with a reasonable chance, if there is any more then they have no chance so their votes will go to the top 2 and the eventual winner,

In this instance I am not in favour of the PR system, at all.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3264 - 06/09/2025 21:54:00    2635112

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I see dictatorship is alive and well in Fine Gael.Harris telling councillors they can't back an independent candidate.surely all these decisions should be for the councillors and not dictated by the leader.I'm hoping some might just decide they won't listen to him but I doubt if any will have the nerve..
I know they have a party candidate but surely these members can make their mind up as to what they want to do..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2594 - 07/09/2025 00:15:19    2635119

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Bertie would have been brilliant. Instead of being remembered first for securing peace in Northern Ireland, a feat that changed the course of Irish history - headlines obsessed over tribunal testimony, financial innuendo, and personal caricatures. The narrative was shaped less by fact and more by a media appetite for scandal. In other European countries, a statesman with Ahern's record would have been elevated and honoured without question.

Gearoid1998ffowaed (Galway) - Posts: 182 - 07/09/2025 02:10:34    2635123

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Replying To Freethinker:  "I thought the only person who ever thought he might have a chance was Bertie."
In fairness overall the selection of a few of the candidates wasn't handled that well, reminds me a bit like the ceann comhairle appointment a while ago.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3264 - 07/09/2025 08:15:04    2635131

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