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To be fair the guests didn't really talk about it that much, it was more on the TV and radio where it was the only item of discussion. Also in the streets- I was in London the day before and the images of herself were omnipresent- in the airport, in train stations, in shopping centres, at bus stops. Strikes me as overkill but I guess they can please themselves.
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 13/09/2022 14:54:38 2440538 Link 1 |
I'm not saying Brexit is great, if it was up to me they would have remained, (not that EU nations got money coming out of our ears either mind), I'm just saying that we're well able to throw digs ourselves, that's not a one way street. I also sometimes wonder if our press is too keen to blame almost everything on Brexit. Agree with the rest of what you said. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1698 - 13/09/2022 15:23:57 2440546 Link 1 |
Funny how the majority of brexiters in England were people not working and blaming foreigners for the lack of jobs. Then come the summer they go on their budget holidays to Spain and take their Union Jack shorts and towels. I don't mind paying over the odds as long as I can hear them crying , especially in the North where they cry over the protocol. Love seeing Jim Allister going red in the face with anger.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2006 - 13/09/2022 15:48:28 2440555 Link 6 |
I suppose when your a subject you'll be loyal till the end.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1898 - 13/09/2022 17:31:52 2440576 Link 0 |
"Funny how the majority of brexiters in England were people not working" That is utter bullsh*t. Show me a source for this statement? Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2447 - 13/09/2022 18:41:00 2440583 Link 3 |
"I was in London the day before and the images of herself were omnipresent- in the airport, in train stations, in shopping centres, at bus stops. Strikes me as overkill but I guess they can please themselves." I live in London. There are no images of the queen at my local train stations, no images of her at any bus stops and no images of her at shopping centres. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2447 - 13/09/2022 18:45:50 2440584 Link 2 |
The majority of Brexiteers? So you're saying the majority of 52% of voters in the UK were people not working, thus at least 26% of the British electorate in 2016 were unemployed? Catch yourself on.
streaker (Galway) - Posts: 497 - 13/09/2022 20:19:53 2440590 Link 4 |
Check out towns like Boston and Hartlepool to name a couple. Cry, cry about foreigners taking jobs but the only time they get off their ass is at midnight the day their free money hits their bank account. Then it's straight to the 24 he for a carry out. Full program on it. Here's a quote from one person on why they voted to leave"basically because of the huge influx of EU citizens, and the fact that our own kids can't really get jobs." Police arrest a young fellow in Scotland for telling the truth while two bullies walk free for throwing the lad to the ground. Self destruct button in UK.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2006 - 13/09/2022 20:37:06 2440591 Link 4 |
But what do you mean by throwing digs? To my mind, a lot of the criticism of Brexit voiced from Ireland was accurate. For instance, for the first few years the Brexiters insisted that technology could solve the border issue, but when pressed on what and how, very few details were forthcoming. The "oven ready deal" that Johnson heralded was abandoned by the UK Government as soon as loyalists started acting up. I do also think that there is still a latent hostility to Ireland in some parts of Britain (probably areas with high military recruitment) which never really went away, and Brexit revealed that. Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 14/09/2022 09:13:28 2440604 Link 1 |
Well, what can I say? I must assume that you're not based near Victoria station, or in South East London, because she was pretty omnipresent there.
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 14/09/2022 09:16:07 2440605 Link 0 |
Maybe I should have worded it "die hard brexiters"
Neartheborder (Derry) - Posts: 56 - 14/09/2022 10:27:07 2440609 Link 0 |
I live in North London. I don't doubt what your saying, I just wanted it to be known that your experience of London is not what most of London is like.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2447 - 14/09/2022 11:19:45 2440619 Link 1 |
Putting it another way. 15 million people in England voted for Brexit. According to the expert on here from Tyrone, " the majority of brexiters in England were people not working ".
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2447 - 14/09/2022 12:31:15 2440639 Link 1 |
Brexit is at shotgun blast to both feet economically speaking and has introduced a world of unneccessary hassle in terms of logistics and bureaucracy. Not to mention the problems associated with the North and the undermining of the GFA. Can anyone here, (possibly UK posters) explain any tangible benefits of Brexit? I know that some pedantic EU regulations can now be avoided and they have their blue passports again, but does any of that actually trump the benefits in terms of tariff free trade that EU membership brought? Or is it just the case that the whole thing was simply a vehicle for ruthless and cyncical politicians (Boris, Rees-Mogg, Raab, Patel, Gove etc) to ride into power on? And once in power, noone had a scooby-do how to actually implement it or deal with the fallout? Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9116 - 14/09/2022 13:56:14 2440656 Link 2 |
That's fine. But Google/Twitter search "Queen Elizabeth bus stop" and it seems like there's plenty of evidence to show that I'm not making things up. I can't speak of your area.
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 14/09/2022 14:22:59 2440659 Link 0 |
Your furtherance of the "52%" figure permits an inference that 52% of British people voted for Brexit. In fact, only slightly over a quarter of the British electorate voted for Brexit - 26.9%. Away from the misleading populist headlines, here's how the numbers stacked up: TOTAL POTENTIAL VOTERS: 64,600,000 Of that 64.6 million British people: 28% of them (18,099,999) weren't on the electoral roll. Another 20% (12,948,018) didn't vote. Another 25% (16,141,241) voted Remain. And 26.9% (17,410,742) voted Leave In other words, around three quarters of the British public did not vote for Brexit. And that's the problem with these referendums. They're structured to declare an outcome on the back of insufficient popular support. See my blog from last year on "why Brexit is failing": "And as Margaret Thatcher (quoting Clement Attlee) noted: "Perhaps the late Lord Attlee was right," she observed, "when he said that the referendum was a device of dictators and demagogues." Hear, hear. But if you insist on having one of those wretched modern degenerations into governance by panem et circenses, there should at least be a mandatory supermajority (of at least 75%), and there also should be compulsory voting (fine non-voters via PAYE or in their benefits) to get above (e.g.) a 75% turnout. Absent those conditions, it's just a recipe for endless division - civil war without guns. England, like America, is now a nation divided, primarily fighting with itself. This is no good for anyone, neither Britain itself, nor its long-suffering neighbours. Britain, like Ireland, through political cowardice and expediency, has allowed the alien governance concept of populist "referendums" to infect the body politic in both countries, and Britain is now reaping the predictable harvest." See: https://ayenaw.com/2021/10/23/why-brexit-is-failing/ points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 238 - 14/09/2022 14:41:35 2440660 Link 0 |
I see some American lad has suggested bringing in a sort of a soccer Railway Cup: points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 238 - 14/09/2022 14:54:17 2440665 Link 0 |
It's something different for sure. We once had a debate in the pub about how English football would look if it adopted our GAA county format. It didn't get too far because not many of knew offhand where different players were born etc. Plus London would have to be divided into its boroughs etc for fairness.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9116 - 14/09/2022 15:10:03 2440666 Link 0 |
The only way I could see it working if it replaced the community shield, soccer season is ridiculously crammed at it is.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1673 - 14/09/2022 15:51:55 2440679 Link 0 |
I don't think there's such a thing as die hard Brexiters they would come under the umbrella of die hard English who think they can turn up and rule the world. The rule Britannia mob who hadn't a clue what Brexit meant to the economy. At least Ireland weighed the situation up and had another vote and better off for doing it. On another note wasn't it great to see Sinn Fein leading the North as the biggest party and DUP playing second fiddle. Don't tell Geoffrey about being the biggest party was like a quote from Faulty Tower, Don't mention the war .
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2006 - 14/09/2022 16:08:37 2440680 Link 3 |