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You're trolling now. United won the Premier League in 2011 and 2013 and it took a last second goal from Aguero in 2012 to deny them three-in-a-row. Ferguson was definitely able to compete with Man City back then. Also, much of the team he built in the 1990s came through their youth system. The only other side that achieved anything like it in Britain was the Lisbon Lions at Celtic, and they were playing in a much less competitive domestic league. David Moyes inherited the same team that won the Premier League in 2013 and was lucky to finish seventh the following season. What does that tell you? Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 19/08/2022 12:11:58 2438007 Link 0 |
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This is Manchester United.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2013 - 19/08/2022 12:34:37 2438009 Link 6 |
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It tells you he inherited a load of rubbish left behind by old whiskey nose…. That 2013 Utd team wouldn't come within 20pts of the top teams nowadays… Ferguson knew they were a busted flush and ran instead of trying to rebuild…but he knew he couldn't compete financially….
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1926 - 19/08/2022 13:30:55 2438022 Link 0 |
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Barca 2009 - 2011 were the best club side in decades, Mourinho was in his prime at that time and masterminded a tactical, controversial masterclass to deny Barca three in a row by winning in 2010. As for United Fergie brought his team to back to back finals so they were not a million miles from winning two in a row, he then brought them back to a final two years later. He was unlucky to run into such a great Barca team in those two finals. Fergie's success from 2008 to the time he retired was in an era of Man City and Chelsea's multi billionaires entering the scene, Fergie faced it down and continued to be successful as he did with every challenge. Whatever about his decision to remain involved after retirement people can't rewrite history about his success. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 19/08/2022 13:31:17 2438023 Link 0 |
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They absolutely robbed a Champion's league final after Bayern Munich battered them for 90 minutes… Rooney or Ronaldo never really showed up on big European nights…more suited to games against Stoke and the likes… Ferguson had as you rightly point out some success at Aberdeen on a shoestring but gained most of his glory at Utd with an open cheque book….
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1926 - 19/08/2022 13:38:12 2438026 Link 0 |
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I've been out to Nepal, Tanzania, China and I've done multi day hikes in Scotland. I couldn't say a bad word about any of them. Hard going but thoroughly enjoyable, gets you away from the hustle and bustle of life hear and clears the head. I've always found too that the people especially in poorer countries to be extremely humble. I've always come back the better of these ventures. Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 19/08/2022 13:38:16 2438027 Link 2 |
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Confirmation that you are a troll. Well done you shall be receiving a badge of honour in the post shortly..
Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 19/08/2022 14:05:00 2438032 Link 2 |
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No the belief and never accept defeat mindset Fergie instilled in his teams won the final in 99, remember it was a similar attitude that got them out of Turin that year, and which somehow beat Liverpool and Arsenal in the cup; fantastic management and the Treble will never be repeated by an English club. I wouldn't agree with 'open cheque book'. Open cheque book came into football in 2005 and Fergie had to adapt, but he did and went on to win more titles and a CL. I can see his success still irks you, which is fair enough but it doesn't take away reality of what he achieved. Manchester United were lucky to have him. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 19/08/2022 14:07:44 2438033 Link 1 |
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Seems like that treble winning season for United in 1999 was pure torture for you and has left scars. I bet at the time you were sure Bayern would win with both Roy Keane and Paul Scholes suspended.
Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3347 - 19/08/2022 14:20:21 2438036 Link 0 |
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Bayern did everything but win …. total robbery by Utd… They had no such luck when they came up against Barcelona….with Ronaldo and Rooney doing their usual disappearing act when it mattered
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1926 - 19/08/2022 15:34:16 2438048 Link 0 |
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A load of rubbish that won the Premier League in April of the previous season, above Manchester City. And, in the decade or so since Ferguson left, United's net spend has been higher than that of Manchester City. It just hasn't been spent well, something that is down to their rather clueless ownership. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-city-net-spending-23016036 You're spoofing here, big time. Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 19/08/2022 15:47:13 2438050 Link 0 |
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This is Manchester United
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 19/08/2022 15:57:13 2438051 Link 4 |
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You said they he won all without an open chequebook but left because they couldn't compete financially, which is it?
achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 562 - 19/08/2022 16:48:59 2438056 Link 1 |
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As you well know, games don't last 90 minutes, you play to the final whistle and UTD had a team of believers. In the semifinal that year Keane got booked, knew he would miss the final but unlike Gaza in the World Cup, he didn't cry, he rolled his sleeves up scored two goals and well you know what happened.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2013 - 19/08/2022 17:23:56 2438062 Link 4 |
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Bayern didn't win with two of Uniteds best players suspended and couldn't defend from corners. Ferguson is long retired now you need to move on and not let it upset you anymore.
Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3347 - 19/08/2022 18:17:07 2438068 Link 1 |
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Just wait until until Saudicastle get going… yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 19/08/2022 18:39:39 2438070 Link 3 |
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great run by ciara mageean to get silver in 1500 in europeans and womens relay did well getting into final KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 19/08/2022 21:42:05 2438079 Link 1 |
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Fergusons greatness as a football manager is unquestioned. His moral compass is screwed up though in his defence of Ryan Giggs. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 20/08/2022 07:29:54 2438080 Link 1 |
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Couldn't compete when other teams had the same financial clout…. Saw it coming and ran…
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1926 - 20/08/2022 09:12:54 2438084 Link 0 |
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Are you a self-appointed authority on moral compass? If Giggs wanted 8 girlfriends, and 8 girlfriends wanted Giggs, I don't see the problem. Moral compass my ass.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3421 - 20/08/2022 15:39:05 2438128 Link 2 |