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Look, yesterday you had 2 officials who have had history with Galway teams over the last few years, and just a while ago I watched the free that O'Neill scored to level the game. Harsh free in any case but Henry stands where the free was to be taken from and even Fitzmaurice says it in his commentary but low and behold O'Neill takes it from the wrong position and Jerome Henry is there looking at him. Regarding the blood sub, the game should have been stopped to allow the blood sub on, its a rule!! hashtag2017 (Galway) - Posts: 173 - 27/06/2022 12:44:31 2427951 Link
Don't know if I've not seen every clip of the pushing and shoving but the eye gouge aside, is this getting blown out of proportion? There's a slot on Newstalk now dedicated to people whinging about it. Absolutely eye gouging should be punished but the rest seemed to be pushing and pulling and fellas rolling around on the ground. Obviously you don't want that happening in every match but they're amateur players after playing a mammoth game, end of championship decider with emotions high. I'd nearly prefer that than a boring guard of honour. I'd say the player's didn't care either after the game. MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 773 - 27/06/2022 12:46:00 2427953 Link
Replying To MTS: "No more than the linesman - remind me again who was the fourth official?" Oh I know exactly who they are, not sure if we are allowed name and shame here though systematic (Galway) - Posts: 69 - 27/06/2022 12:49:55 2427955 Link
Replying To tommy k: "The linesmen were like ostriches with their head in the sand and the ref wasn't much better sending off the 2 players that acted the most responsibly during the melee. I personally think they were afraid of the crowd of baying Armagh supporters in case they would get any hassle (or even worse) from the stands which is just completely wrong." I think they came to an arrangement to send off both Captains; hence the handshake between them. Ref report will probably state this, therefore easy to appeal. MeAlone (Galway) - Posts: 70 - 27/06/2022 12:51:24 2427957 Link
Replying To Ulsterman: "No I said let the appropriate GAA disciplinary panels deal with yesterday. Don't use it as an excuse to castigate and vilify an entire county. Trial by media has already started with an extremely vicious personal attack on the county of Armagh and people by a Dublin based journalist. That's just disgusting." But you as ever tried to use events from the past to gloss over it. You of course like always will claim you didn't. You've yet to comment on the eye gouge. Or did you miss that? Or is that another anti Ulster comment for people to make? You scream and shout anytime something like this happens to an Ulster team yet when it's the other way around you have nothing to say other than the usual playing the victim card and crying that everyone is out to get you. oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 27/06/2022 12:52:25 2427958 Link
Replying To smallfrank: "That pass at the end me of normal time when we were a point up and trying to see out the game had very little to do with the ref or umpires" How do you know that? It was an awful error but people make mistakes when they can barely walk from exhaustion, injuries and constant targeting without protection. I was amazed that he could actually take and score that first penalty, it showed great character under very difficult circumstances. It's easy to make judgements from the comfort of one's keyboard! baire (Galway) - Posts: 1785 - 27/06/2022 12:59:46 2427961 Link
Replying To tommy k: "The linesmen were like ostriches with their head in the sand and the ref wasn't much better sending off the 2 players that acted the most responsibly during the melee. I personally think they were afraid of the crowd of baying Armagh supporters in case they would get any hassle (or even worse) from the stands which is just completely wrong." 'Baying armagh supporters' - you should hang your head in shame with that comment Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 27/06/2022 13:00:26 2427962 Link
Replying To tommy k: "The linesmen were like ostriches with their head in the sand and the ref wasn't much better sending off the 2 players that acted the most responsibly during the melee. I personally think they were afraid of the crowd of baying Armagh supporters in case they would get any hassle (or even worse) from the stands which is just completely wrong." What do you mean by hassle from the crowd exactly? Are you suggesting that the Armagh crowd were going to attack the officials? If so that's disgusting assertion, you should be ashamed of yourself. Here's a google search some posters might like to have a look at before commenting: galway mayo connacht final brawl 2021 Looks like Galway have a bit of form for this type of stuff as well. PolicemanFox (Monaghan) - Posts: 158 - 27/06/2022 13:01:58 2427965 Link
Replying To Ulsterman: "No I said let the appropriate GAA disciplinary panels deal with yesterday. Don't use it as an excuse to castigate and vilify an entire county. Trial by media has already started with an extremely vicious personal attack on the county of Armagh and people by a Dublin based journalist. That's just disgusting." Why are you talking about a Dublin based journalist. What does it matter where he or she is based? Also who are you talking about? SimonstownBack (Meath) - Posts: 143 - 27/06/2022 13:03:59 2427967 Link
Replying To Ulsterman: "No I said let the appropriate GAA disciplinary panels deal with yesterday. Don't use it as an excuse to castigate and vilify an entire county. Trial by media has already started with an extremely vicious personal attack on the county of Armagh and people by a Dublin based journalist. That's just disgusting." I haven't seen the article/Tweet you're referring to, but if the journalist is casting aspersions on a whole county based on what its football team has done then you're right - it's not on. However, Armagh have repeatedly been involved in various ructions this year. They play with a hard edge and that's fair enough. But there is a line that they continue to cross and more worryingly don't appear willing to show any remorse for. Donegal weren't blameless in the Letterkenny melee - we're no angels. But at least when the time came for punishment we took our medicine and moved on. Armagh fought tooth and nail to pull a stroke to get their guilty men off. That to me tells the tale. Until they're hit with appropriately severe sanctions that will stick they'll continue as they were. That's nothing to do with any North-South conspiricacy. It's just telling it like it is. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9116 - 27/06/2022 13:06:54 2427969 Link
Replying To galwayford: "GAA needs a 4th official for big matches on touchline to keep an eye on things. Also it needs markings to keep officials inside, like soccer, technical areas." There is a 4th official but he does nothing… they already have 7 officials keeping an eye on things but in nearly all cases they're completely useless…. How they came up with the conclusion they came to yesterday is mind blowing and they should be made explain their actions…. Some hope.. No wonder people are disillusioned with the GAA….. ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1908 - 27/06/2022 13:14:50 2427976 Link
Replying To tommy k: "The linesmen were like ostriches with their head in the sand and the ref wasn't much better sending off the 2 players that acted the most responsibly during the melee. I personally think they were afraid of the crowd of baying Armagh supporters in case they would get any hassle (or even worse) from the stands which is just completely wrong." Seriously - baying Armagh supporters - women and children Galway won - they deserved it cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1671 - 27/06/2022 13:26:16 2427981 Link
Replying To cuchulainn35: "Seriously - baying Armagh supporters - women and children Galway won - they deserved it" Some of your supporters let the jersey down incredibly as they returned up the M1. Witnessed shocking behavior at the services - mostly young lads on buses but not doing anything for brand Armagh P.Mckenna (Louth) - Posts: 105 - 27/06/2022 13:40:12 2427988 Link
Replying To Lockjaw: "I haven't seen the article/Tweet you're referring to, but if the journalist is casting aspersions on a whole county based on what its football team has done then you're right - it's not on. However, Armagh have repeatedly been involved in various ructions this year. They play with a hard edge and that's fair enough. But there is a line that they continue to cross and more worryingly don't appear willing to show any remorse for. Donegal weren't blameless in the Letterkenny melee - we're no angels. But at least when the time came for punishment we took our medicine and moved on. Armagh fought tooth and nail to pull a stroke to get their guilty men off. That to me tells the tale. Until they're hit with appropriately severe sanctions that will stick they'll continue as they were. That's nothing to do with any North-South conspiricacy. It's just telling it like it is." It's not just this year that Armagh started that craic. They been at it for years. Just glad they got beaten because Armagh v Derry would have been the worst advertisement for Gaelic football this century. Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 27/06/2022 13:47:44 2427994 Link
Replying To Lockjaw: "I haven't seen the article/Tweet you're referring to, but if the journalist is casting aspersions on a whole county based on what its football team has done then you're right - it's not on. However, Armagh have repeatedly been involved in various ructions this year. They play with a hard edge and that's fair enough. But there is a line that they continue to cross and more worryingly don't appear willing to show any remorse for. Donegal weren't blameless in the Letterkenny melee - we're no angels. But at least when the time came for punishment we took our medicine and moved on. Armagh fought tooth and nail to pull a stroke to get their guilty men off. That to me tells the tale. Until they're hit with appropriately severe sanctions that will stick they'll continue as they were. That's nothing to do with any North-South conspiricacy. It's just telling it like it is." Look trial by social media helps nobody and it needs to be called out, as an almost more serious issue than the melees. There is no doubt Armagh were singled out for happened in Letterkenny, with an intense agenda to get as many Armagh players suspended as possible and to single out an entire county which almost worked. It certainly had the impact of affecting Armagh in the Ballybofey game but ultimately the Armagh team got an opportunity to put a lot of wrongs right which they did in Clones later on. We need to remember this is an amateur sport and we need to look after players, yes mistakes happen but fairness across the board would go a long way to solving the disciplinary issues in my opinion. Let authorities deal with any issues behind the scenes and the rest of us look forward to the rest of the championship, I think Galway will have already moved on to preparing for Derry whilst Armagh I'm sure will get on with the rest of their GAA season at home. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 27/06/2022 13:48:18 2427995 Link
I was a neutral watching the game yesterday; I have nothing against either Galway nor Armagh. It is hard to say who started it or why but the problem Armagh have, is this; they have been involved in three melees (brawls) in the last 12 months. Players and counties will continue to play close to the edge if they know that they will get away with it through appeals. I am not surprised that this type of incident continues to happen and a large part of this is that the GAA's disciplinary process is a shambles. Yesterday's incident should be the catalyst for change. Bans should be used to punish offenders and the GAA should ensure that these bans are warranted when appropriate and that the bans should be served in full. The best way to do this is to have a robust process with limited appeal options except in scenarios like mistaken identity. The ball is in the GAA's court. If yesterday's scenes go unpunished and the culprits get away then it will be open season for this type of behaviour and some one will get seriously injured. wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1909 - 27/06/2022 13:52:30 2427998 Link
Replying To P.Mckenna: "Some of your supporters let the jersey down incredibly as they returned up the M1. Witnessed shocking behavior at the services - mostly young lads on buses but not doing anything for brand Armagh" Young and old supporters from every county do that if they're in a group they've too much alcohol on board. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 27/06/2022 13:54:38 2428000 Link
Replying To wicklowsupport: "I was a neutral watching the game yesterday; I have nothing against either Galway nor Armagh. It is hard to say who started it or why but the problem Armagh have, is this; they have been involved in three melees (brawls) in the last 12 months. Players and counties will continue to play close to the edge if they know that they will get away with it through appeals. I am not surprised that this type of incident continues to happen and a large part of this is that the GAA's disciplinary process is a shambles. Yesterday's incident should be the catalyst for change. Bans should be used to punish offenders and the GAA should ensure that these bans are warranted when appropriate and that the bans should be served in full. The best way to do this is to have a robust process with limited appeal options except in scenarios like mistaken identity. The ball is in the GAA's court. If yesterday's scenes go unpunished and the culprits get away then it will be open season for this type of behaviour and some one will get seriously injured." Bans are fine but Galway will suffer from bans more than Armagh as they still in the championship. So what's fair there? Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 27/06/2022 13:55:53 2428002 Link
Replying To OpenStand: "The carry on of some Armagh players and subs is all a by product of political history over the last 100 years. Armagh Nationalists/GAA folk suffered horrifically at the hands of Loyalist/British gangs and this creates a very battle hardened community who will literally die for their jersey/identity . We in the south over the last 100 years haven't experienced that but many of these armagh players came from familys/communitys that suffered horrifically . It doesnt excuse it but the Galway and Armagh players worlds they were brought up in are poles apart unfortunately ." That is a pathetic excuse to justify eye gouging, or Northern teams been given the green light to engage in carry on that has no place on any sporting field. Yes we know that playing GAA probably carries a much greater significance to Northern Nationalists, but to say that it entitles them to carry on with completely and utterly unacceptable behaviour is utter rubbish. gilly1910 (Galway) - Posts: 170 - 27/06/2022 13:57:46 2428003 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "Young and old supporters from every county do that if they're in a group they've too much alcohol on board." They do but perhaps not willful damage of parked cars? P.Mckenna (Louth) - Posts: 105 - 27/06/2022 14:14:05 2428013 Link