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Replying To Backheel:  "Big county privilege. Just because it means nothing to you. It smacks of arrogance. Do you you think it's possible that other people feel differently than you about the experience of playing in croker. Leitrim senior footballers played there in 2019 division 4 final. It drew a huge crowd (relative to our population). It was a fantastic occasion for us with old friends meeting up and supporting our county there. Perhaps your attitude is indicative of why your senior team playing in a croke park with no atmosphere."
You can say that again. Big county privilege. But it's not surprising as people like the poster spend their lives belittling the efforts of their fellow gaels in weaker disadvantaged counties.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 844 - 10/06/2022 12:24:22    2423758

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Replying To Backheel:  "Big county privilege. Just because it means nothing to you. It smacks of arrogance. Do you you think it's possible that other people feel differently than you about the experience of playing in croker. Leitrim senior footballers played there in 2019 division 4 final. It drew a huge crowd (relative to our population). It was a fantastic occasion for us with old friends meeting up and supporting our county there. Perhaps your attitude is indicative of why your senior team playing in a croke park with no atmosphere."
By all means feel however you like about it. It's not for me to dictate to you your opinions, I'm just making the point that if you believe that your team reaching playing in a 90% empty Croke park is special, I happen to believe it isn't.
If my county (whose footballers btw have had a terrible record of both getting to, and winning in, Croke park the last 20 years) reach an all Ireland quarter or semi, and play, say, donegal in it, id far rather play them in a packed smaller stadium like McHale Park for example, than a half full Croker.
Just my opinion.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1709 - 10/06/2022 13:21:27    2423767

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Replying To Square_B:  "You can say that again. Big county privilege. But it's not surprising as people like the poster spend their lives belittling the efforts of their fellow gaels in weaker disadvantaged counties."
Please tell me how I've belittled the efforts of my fellow gaels.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1709 - 10/06/2022 13:22:50    2423768

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GAA website says both semi finals are to be televised on RTE 2. The RTE website says they are showing Cork v Limerick and Armagh v Donegal in qualifiers. What's the story??

The_Fonz (Westmeath) - Posts: 213 - 10/06/2022 13:52:55    2423774

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Replying To The_Fonz:  "GAA website says both semi finals are to be televised on RTE 2. The RTE website says they are showing Cork v Limerick and Armagh v Donegal in qualifiers. What's the story??"
Semi finals are on next weekend

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2385 - 10/06/2022 14:20:37    2423782

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Please tell me how I've belittled the efforts of my fellow gaels."
To be fair, you said there's nothing special about the hallowed turf anymore. That's not the case for smaller counties. They rarely get there, and it is a big deal for them. This competition was set with the carrot of getting your day out in Croker, which is a big deal for some. When was the last time Sligo played in Croker? This might be the one and only opportunity for some players in their playing career. Some counties play here multiple times yearly, others maybe once a career.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2385 - 10/06/2022 14:23:30    2423783

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Galway9801 going by what I've read from you,it comes across that you feel only those playing in McCarthy cup or for Sam maguire should be playing matches in croke park..every county and club player is entitled to have a shot at playing in croke park,it is not an exclusive venue,and I hope it never will become that..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2219 - 10/06/2022 14:55:14    2423790

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Galway9801 going by what I've read from you,it comes across that you feel only those playing in McCarthy cup or for Sam maguire should be playing matches in croke park..every county and club player is entitled to have a shot at playing in croke park,it is not an exclusive venue,and I hope it never will become that.."
Every county and club player deserves a shot at playing there. Says who ? Show me the rulebook.
Surely sport is about earning a prize, rather than being given one because you want it.

While we're at it, let's give both sets of players, the winners and losers, gold medals, seeing as how that's what they both want.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1709 - 10/06/2022 15:21:36    2423799

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The only thing I'll say that's a bit unfair is that because of our silly outdated rules prohibiting players from transferring counties/teams, many great players will never get the chance to play in a big game in Croker (and all games held there should be big games imo).

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1709 - 10/06/2022 15:26:10    2423800

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Every county and club player deserves a shot at playing there. Says who ? Show me the rulebook.
Surely sport is about earning a prize, rather than being given one because you want it.

While we're at it, let's give both sets of players, the winners and losers, gold medals, seeing as how that's what they both want."
Dead right deny any player thats not competing for Sam the chance to play in Croke park and have ten or fifteen more concerts there instead after all its only players we are taking about when were they ever important.

breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 454 - 10/06/2022 20:32:00    2423840

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Replying To Galway9801:  "The only thing I'll say that's a bit unfair is that because of our silly outdated rules prohibiting players from transferring counties/teams, many great players will never get the chance to play in a big game in Croker (and all games held there should be big games imo)."
Thank God for our silly outdated rules that prohibit players moving clubs/counties. That's the heart of the GAA. I was at an underage match one evening that got very heated among players, supporters and parents. While no slap was thrown there was plenty of verbals exchanged. This chap with a soccer top came up to me and said " This is what I love about the GAA. It means something to people. Everyone in the club gels together when it's needed. You won't get that with our gang. " There is no heart it means nothing. I was quite taken aback but when you look around you and see the GAA facilities in every club and then compare them to other sports, there is no comparison. Those facilities were put there by the community and volunteers not Croke Park. Their influence is minimal. If players were allowed move around between clubs like in soccer the core of the GAA would be severely damaged. When I contribute to my club I know every cent will remain in the club and not on transfer fees etc etc

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1658 - 11/06/2022 11:10:41    2423881

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Replying To breffnibluewhite:  "Dead right deny any player thats not competing for Sam the chance to play in Croke park and have ten or fifteen more concerts there instead after all its only players we are taking about when were they ever important."
The very fact that concerts are being held in Croke park proves my point that it's no longer a special stadium, the hallowed turf bla bla bla.
At least when a concerts being held there there's a bit of life in the place.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1709 - 11/06/2022 11:17:46    2423883

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Replying To eoinog:  "Thank God for our silly outdated rules that prohibit players moving clubs/counties. That's the heart of the GAA. I was at an underage match one evening that got very heated among players, supporters and parents. While no slap was thrown there was plenty of verbals exchanged. This chap with a soccer top came up to me and said " This is what I love about the GAA. It means something to people. Everyone in the club gels together when it's needed. You won't get that with our gang. " There is no heart it means nothing. I was quite taken aback but when you look around you and see the GAA facilities in every club and then compare them to other sports, there is no comparison. Those facilities were put there by the community and volunteers not Croke Park. Their influence is minimal. If players were allowed move around between clubs like in soccer the core of the GAA would be severely damaged. When I contribute to my club I know every cent will remain in the club and not on transfer fees etc etc"
Club transfers are very common.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1709 - 11/06/2022 11:58:39    2423894

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No they're not very common. Easily less than .5% of players transfer during their careers. How does that make them common? Nonsensical post

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1496 - 11/06/2022 19:23:54    2424011

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Clearandblue think Galway poster is just trying to get a rise or an argument with anyone..doesn't seem to matter what anyone says that poster will disagree..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2219 - 11/06/2022 20:25:18    2424042

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "No they're not very common. Easily less than .5% of players transfer during their careers. How does that make them common? Nonsensical post"
There's a list of all club transfers on the GAA website. At least 100 most months so it's relatively common

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 11/06/2022 20:34:29    2424045

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1,200 transfers per year??? How many players registered? Easily 120,000, that's 1%. Not exactly a torrent

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1496 - 11/06/2022 20:47:02    2424052

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "No they're not very common. Easily less than .5% of players transfer during their careers. How does that make them common? Nonsensical post"
Both of my local clubs, St James, and Liam mellows, have a fair few registered players, who don't live anywhere near the parish boundaries.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1709 - 11/06/2022 21:15:55    2424069

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "1,200 transfers per year??? How many players registered? Easily 120,000, that's 1%. Not exactly a torrent"
But you said it was .5%

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 11/06/2022 21:22:14    2424073

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Replying To oneoff:  "There's a list of all club transfers on the GAA website. At least 100 most months so it's relatively common"
A large proportion of those are transfers abroad though, if you take those out there aren't that many transfers across county borders, of the ones that are left a good number are players transferring into Dublin, or back to their home clubs.

expe (UK) - Posts: 31 - 11/06/2022 21:55:46    2424099

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